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"Unsociable" Hawthorn
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As i said before I don't mind the Hawks at all but this thread got me thinking, at WC it's seems like Simpson's going a different track, I recon he's instilling in the players that whatever happens just get up and get the ball moving, noticed when the umps go against us with a dodgy decision(yeah yeah I know alot will go on about how they recon it all goes our way) our players aren't remonstrating, their just trying to set up again as quick as they can.
Given Simos from the school of Clarkson just seems there polar opposites in that regard.
Given Simos from the school of Clarkson just seems there polar opposites in that regard.
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I like the way we go about it, I liked the way the Aussie cricket team went about under Waugh and I will like it when any other team is like that too. If we squibbed contests and then went around puffing our chests out, like we did in the early 2000s, then that would be different. We are hard at the ball, hard at the opposition. It is a sporting contest, do what you have to within the rules and the spirit of the game. Footy is an aggressive and competitive sport, play it that way.
The media is just bored and looking for an angle.
The media is just bored and looking for an angle.
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Simpson's clearly very astute. You know more about West Coast than I so I wont argue with you but maybe he's just working with the cattle he has?
I believe they have a younger side than hawthorn (lot harder to aggressive football with kids) and their more seasoned players (Le Cras, Priddis, Schofield, Rosa, Kennedy, Butler) don't appear from the outside to have that level of 'angry prick' required to play 'unsociable' footy...
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I think it's funny that the people in the media couldn't come up with anything new so they went back to 2008 and resurrected unsociable football, back then it was more about the potential suspensions from carry over points that a lot our our players were carrying into finals, completely different landscape to now.
Hawks don't do anything different on field than any other team really but we have the whole going for 3 in a row thing so of course the media says its because we are meaner than everyone else
Hawks don't do anything different on field than any other team really but we have the whole going for 3 in a row thing so of course the media says its because we are meaner than everyone else
The further you go back (to a certain point, anyway), the dirtier it gets. Most of the successful teams have an element of mongrel about them.
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For what its worth -
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...od-guys-compared-to-some-20150629-gi0tsd.html
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...od-guys-compared-to-some-20150629-gi0tsd.html
Reminds me of Lions 2003 /2004. In-your-face from the get-go and just so offended if an opponent even tried to retaliate. Motivation when you've actually played the best you can.
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It's mostly just piss and wind from the media.
Players bump, sledge and have cracks at each other in every single game played over the season, yet when Hawthorn do it it's "unsociable".
I mean, two players chased the ball over the boundary on the weekend, a Hawthorn player gives a little hip and shoulder to his opponent as they enter he field of play again and out came the "there's the unsociable Hawks again" rubbish.
All that said, I personally love that we have a number of players with a bit of campaigner in them. Good sides always do.
Players bump, sledge and have cracks at each other in every single game played over the season, yet when Hawthorn do it it's "unsociable".
I mean, two players chased the ball over the boundary on the weekend, a Hawthorn player gives a little hip and shoulder to his opponent as they enter he field of play again and out came the "there's the unsociable Hawks again" rubbish.
All that said, I personally love that we have a number of players with a bit of campaigner in them. Good sides always do.
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The best teams in the comp are always unsociable - look at North during the 90s, essendon during early 2000s, lions from 2001-2004. These teams bullied their opposition. Hawthorn are great at it. What i would give for the current north team to have a bit of **** in them.
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I don't believe Carey and Ablett played anything but tough and fair. Never mentioned anything about Mitchell
. And I admire and respect a player like Robert Harvey over Voss any day of the week. This article is what i'm getting at:http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/07/robert-harveys-career-an-antidote-to-the-ills-of-world-sport/
Tough and Fair footy not punches to the kidneys and elbows to the sternum behind play. May as well rename some teams and players Liberatore.
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Fletcher has never been a fair player?
Do you respect James Hird?
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I don't believe Carey and Ablett played anything but tough and fair. Never mentioned anything about Mitchell
http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/07/robert-harveys-career-an-antidote-to-the-ills-of-world-sport/
Tough and Fair footy not punches to the kidneys and elbows to the sternum behind play. May as well rename some teams and players Liberatore.
Lol essendon fan crying cause their team got roughed up by hawthorn. Short memories.
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Rubbish troll. My argument is based on a broader general scale, not one game. And my opinion doesn't stop at my team. Unlike some one eyed supporters around here JACK
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You may want to have a look at Ablett and Careys tribunal record.I don't believe Carey and Ablett played anything but tough and fair. Never mentioned anything about Mitchell
http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/07/robert-harveys-career-an-antidote-to-the-ills-of-world-sport/
Tough and Fair footy not punches to the kidneys and elbows to the sternum behind play. May as well rename some teams and players Liberatore.
Go back through old footage and you’ll see the Hawks have been hard for a very very long time, so nothing new here just the media struggling for sh!t to hang on clubs, will quiten down now that tirds deservedly back in the spot light for all the wrong reasons.
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I can only recall them being tough and fair but if so, then I would simply admire Harvey over those guys too.
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People have mentioned the "Unsociable" Kangaroos during the 90's and the "Unsociable" Lions with Vossy, Scott, Scott, Leppa, Michael, Brown, Lynch, Pike, etc. In between those two dynasties, there was the short-lived Essendon dynasty from 1999-2001 when the "Unsociable" Bombers headed the ladder for 3 successive seasons.
Every time I turned on my TV, I saw tough hombres such as Solomon, Johnson, Johnson, Hardwick, Wallis, Wellman, Barnard, Young and Moorcroft roughing up the opposition and sledging them. Fletcher, Lloyd, Misiti, Long and Bewick weren't enforcer types, but they were no shrinking violets either.
Back in those days, I used to laugh at how much the Bombers hated it when their opponents kicked a goal. Some poor bastard would kick his first or second goal in league footy - he'd be feeling pretty happy with himself; he'd give a little fist pump and turn to his team-mates for some love, only to be set upon by three snarling Essendon defenders who would swear at him, wrestle him, shove him around, give him a few jumper punches and totally psyche him out of the game.
They did that s**t all the time.
The Bombers were one of the most aggressive teams in the AFL from 1999 to 2001. They went from being marshmallows in 1998 to one of the toughest and most intimidating teams in the league.
I bet you weren't complaining.
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Yes I'm still reeling from the one weeker for Bud. That was proving more , just how set up and crooked the AFL seems to be when it is their little project hammering players. He should have got 3 weeks for that. He ran past the ball and forgot there was a ball to hit that Richmond bloke.
Bud, doesn't need to do that he should tackle. But I've always said football is a clash sport, collision should be allowed , it used to be , I still see players deliver heavy duty shepherds . There is too much inconsistant situations where these things happen, the guy from the suns I think that gave the hip and shoulder and knocked his opponant down , that was a fair bump. He got suspended . Why not fine players in some situations. The fact is there are too many bureaucratic donkeys writing rules for the AFL too complicated too, and, many , many just not needed. RULES, AND AFL EMPLOYEES.
GET THE MICRAPHONES OFF THE BLOODY UMPIRES TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats right and The Lions when they were a super power were pretty ruthless too.
Honestly when we played Hawthorn i could not have given a toss about how "unsociable" they were. Its completely a wank term that largely means nothing in such a highly scrutinised environment as today's game. They would have been given a ton more suspensions if this was something they did every week. I was far more concerned by their skillful players.
The Hawks need to be careful though because i feel like "disagreeable" Freo and "unpleasant" Sydney are on the way.
The Hawks need to be careful though because i feel like "disagreeable" Freo and "unpleasant" Sydney are on the way.
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