Vladimir Putin - what do you think of him?

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The questions were simple, but hard to answer if you were speaking s**t.

What is Russia's debt? What is Americas debt? What wars have Russia started, what wars haven't America started?
The questions are irrelevant to any point I have made. Foreign debt means little without context. What is the countries ability to service the debt? At what rate is the economy growing? How large is their deficit/surplus?
 

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Saudi running a massive budget deficit, so not sure they will be in the haves for two long if oil stays where it is but interesting article nonetheless.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-06/russia-plotting-bring-down-opec

Is Russia Plotting To Bring Down OPEC?

Putin’s moves also are strengthening Russia’s influence with OPEC. Russia already has extensive and close ties with Iran and Venezuela, and is now laying the basis for such ties with Iraq. Putin has aligned Russia with OPEC’s have nots–the members lacking financial resources to withstand low crude prices for an extended period and that have objected to Saudi policies (Iran, Iraq, Angola, Nigeria, Libya, Algeria, Ecuador, and Venezuela)—against the haves (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the UAE, and Qatar). He has continually supported Venezuelan President Maduro’s calls for an emergency OPEC meeting on prices and his efforts to persuade Saudi Arabia to reverse its policy
 
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7 goals yesterday against former Russian NHL champs. Obviously a fantastic hockey player :rolleyes:

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Lebbo73

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 20, 2014
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Liverpool
7 goals yesterday against former Russian NHL champs. Obviously a fantastic hockey player :rolleyes:

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Proof please? And not just the MSM saying he scored 7 goals. I want video of the goals or a Russian loving media saying so! :)
 
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Putin is just another hard man of Russian politics. They seem to like a tough talking & tough acting leader. Bellicose, nationalistic leadership probably take the normal Russian's mind off the price of Vodka & the moldy flat they freeze in during winter.

I look at the image of Putin & the image of Abbott & wonder if their is much difference? Pathetic egomaniacs are not so common in Australian politics, but are common in Russia.
 
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Proof please? And not just the MSM saying he scored 7 goals. I want video of the goals or a Russian loving media saying so! :)

lets see what the most independent anti evil western globalist news outlet has to say:


aww it was his Birthday too!
 
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Hahaha, that's just sad. I could walk down the road and watch 8 year-olds attack the net harder than that! How embarrassing for those ex-players to have to stand back like that.

Yeap didn't even need contact to cut off half of those passes. USA vs Canada series out here was much more intense its widely considered a joke among ice hockey devotees and those guys are former 3rd string players held together with pins and strapping.
 
If you were a dictator..........tell me you wouldn't do the same. What's the point of ruling with an iron fist if it doesn't translate to winning on the ice?

People often forget we had our own leader with elite sporting ability.

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Putin is just another hard man of Russian politics. They seem to like a tough talking & tough acting leader. Bellicose, nationalistic leadership probably take the normal Russian's mind off the price of Vodka & the moldy flat they freeze in during winter.

I look at the image of Putin & the image of Abbott & wonder if their is much difference? Pathetic egomaniacs are not so common in Australian politics, but are common in Russia.

Life in Russia is still a lot better than in the 90s
 

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see, i think this title for the OP would be better served as
Vladimir Putin - what do we (the collective figbooty) think of him?
not
Vladimir Putin - what do you think of him?

whattya reckon skilts
cos out figbooty opinions are collectively pissing into the wind. a headwind, uphill from the ponsford end.

just seems the OP's title would wish to make the one consensus socialist collective opinion from the figbooty peons, or the figbooty peon (collective)
 
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Life in Russia is still a lot better than in the 90s
Abbott was better too when he wrote for the Bulletin and was involved in the liberal club at Sydney Uni and when he was an adviser to Hewson.

I reckon he woulda made a good adviser to the right honourable alexander downer, the ruddy cheek'ed toffee nose'd plummy voice'd foreign minister. it coulda lent him an air of all consumed masculinity to him, wouldnt'a' helped a'course, but the mean of downer/abbott would'a been superior to the individual
 
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If you were a dictator..........tell me you wouldn't do the same. What's the point of ruling with an iron fist if it doesn't translate to winning on the ice?

People often forget we had our own leader with elite sporting ability.

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sum's up the difference doesn't it? vlad with 7 goals against a team of former russian greats on his 63 birthday and scores 7 goals in match where the defence out of either respect or fear laid off and let him go. Howard got an over or two on a dirt pitch in bum* no where throwing a bag rocks against poor kids and made a complete fool of himself in doing so.

Putins on his way to a 18 round of golf.

as for me nope if was a dictator my time would be spending my time bringing back classy hats and having freaky orges with political prisoners which involve ice cream toppings and rum.
 

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see, i think this title for the OP would be better served as
Vladimir Putin - what do we (the collective figbooty) think of him?
not
Vladimir Putin - what do you think of him?

whattya reckon skilts
cos out figbooty opinions are collectively pissing into the wind. a headwind, uphill from the ponsford end.

just seems the OP's title would wish to make the one consensus socialist collective opinion from the figbooty peons, or the figbooty peon (collective)
It's near impossible for the denizens of BF to agree on anything.
 

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Whatever Putin is, I hope he somehow prevents these sick maniacs in the west from destroying another country in the Middle East. Syria needs to be defended
 

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Ex KGB assassin who did what he had to do to punt his country back in the black... I shouldn't like it but am admirable that he used what ever means he had after a very suss Soviet catastrophe... the pic of him posing as a family man not 1 metre from Regan during the height of the cold war is noisey...
 
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Tone could ask his daughters which brand of silk stocking feels best against the skin and impart this knowledge to The Hon. Mr Downer along with the joys of other, more restrictive undergarments.

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that is the photo after the 60 yo au pair goes "do a strawberry, do a strawberry". then... "no alexander, dont be silly, i mean little harry here in the swaddling"

#ruddy
#greasycheeks
 
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