We need a speedy small Fwd..

[R.F.C 4 life]

I hate the Blues with every fibre of my being, but after losing Matthew White we clearly lack speed and dont have a quality small forward. There aren't many players available at the moment but there is one that comes to mind that is out of favor... Jeff Garlett. I think we should make a play for him though a trade, thoughts?

 

[Calcium Man]

I hate the Blues with every fibre of my being, but after losing Matthew White we clearly lack speed and dont have a quality small forward. There aren't many players available at the moment but there is one that comes to mind that is out of favor... Jeff Garlett. I think we should make a play for him though a trade, thoughts?

My thoughts are there is a trade thread where this has been discussed

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...-mackay-signed-a-4-year-deal.1054461/page-189

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Only if they take Hampson back.

 

[DustinsGuns]

Definitely.

Obviously a little disenchanted at Carlton however he has proven to be a quality player. Probably more likely to go back to WA though. West Coast would be a strong suitor. I wouldn't imagine Freemantle would be too keen considering they already have quality options in Ballentyne, Walters and Mayne.

I would give our 2nd round pick for him which would probably be enough (pick in the late 20's/early 30's). He would have been worth a top 20 pick at the end of last year.

 

[Mr Magic]

We do not need a speedy small forward!

We have Edwards, Lloyd, Martin and Lids!

And I forgot Lennon

 

[Ralll]

hmmm we have Gordon and Sheds doing well atm, and with our new setup using Lids full time and Cotch/Martin part time Im not sure we really need another small forward.

 

[_RT_]

Don't need Garlett, Garlett has been passed over at Carlton by Menzel who like Cotchin & Martin can also go through the midfield. If we add more depth to the midfield we can use the likes of Cotchin & Martin as small forwards. Their 1-1 ability is far superior to what Garlett offers and both have shown they can kick goals from either marking the ball or winning a ground ball contest.

 

[DustinsGuns]

Edwards has more worth in midfield. Cotchin, Martin and Deledio are good mid-size rotation options. Gordon has more worth as a high half forward (similar to the Chris Knights role) as shown on the weekend. Lloyd isn't quick.

I agree with OP, we are lacking a genuine small, crumbing, pacey forward. Does anyone remember how much Betts, Yarran and Gartlett tore us up in the Elim final last year?

FF Gartlett Riewoldt Resting Mid (Cotchin, Lids, Martin)
F Griffiths Vickery Gordon/Edwards

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Don't need Garlett, Garlett has been passed over at Carlton by Menzel who like Cotchin & Martin can also go through the midfield. If we add more depth to the midfield we can use the likes of Cotchin & Martin as small forwards. Their 1-1 ability is far superior to what Garlett offers and both have shown they can kick goals from either marking the ball or winning a ground ball contest.

You have convinced me.
Football is changing and mids resting forward is where its headed.
Dylan Sheil please.

 

[tigs2010]

Would prefer to draft Anderson. Is quick and agile and very creative but he's about 6ft and over 80kg and a strong mark. Has extra strings to his bow.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Would prefer to draft Anderson. Is quick and agile and very creative but he's about 6ft and over 80kg and a strong mark. Has extra strings to his bow.

And gets the ball to move both ways, wrong Anderson.

 

[_RT_]

Edwards has more worth in midfield. Cotchin, Martin and Deledio are good mid-size rotation options. Gordon has more worth as a high half forward (similar to the Chris Knights role) as shown on the weekend. Lloyd isn't quick.

I agree with OP, we are lacking a genuine small, crumbing, pacey forward. Does anyone remember how much Betts, Yarran and Gartlett tore us up in the Elim final last year?

FF Gartlett Riewoldt Resting Mid (Cotchin, Lids, Martin)
F Griffiths Vickery Gordon/Edwards

Betts like Garlett is only used as a small forward, rarely ventures into the midfield. It effectively makes you a man down on rotations. Like I said in my post with guys like Martin Cotchin S.Edwards Gordon Lloyd & even McDonough you have those smaller types that not only can do damage up forward but can also go through the middle and give us more options. With the way the AFL are intent of reducing interchange numbers we need to have those types of players in the side not permanent FPs

 

[Joker91]

William Hoskin Elliot

Would get Gartlett for depth if he was cheap enough though. Has more upside than Llyod. Llyod is unfortunately A.Edwards the second... Tall man trapped in a small mans body.


HF: S.Edwards/Deledio - Griffiths - WHE/Gordon
FF: Martin/Cotchin - Riewoldt - Vickery

 

[DustinsGuns]

Betts like Garlett is only used as a small forward, rarely ventures into the midfield. It effectively makes you a man down on rotations. Like I said in my post with guys like Martin Cotchin S.Edwards Gordon Lloyd & even McDonough you have those smaller types that not only can do damage up forward but can also go through the middle and give us more options. With the way the AFL are intent of reducing interchange numbers we need to have those types of players in the side not permanent FPs

I understand your point and agree to a certain extent. Although I do believe every team can afford to have one specialist forward pocket/small forward.

 

[Schlurp]

What I'd like to see is more mids who have the capacity and are prepared to run hard in both directions. We look so good streaming forward but remain exposed on the turnover. Although to be fair, we have improved this aspect of our game in recent weeks.

 

[tigs2010]

I understand your point and agree to a certain extent. Although I do believe every team can afford to have one specialist forward pocket/small forward.

Breust, Walters/Ballantyne, Motlop, Lindsay Thomas, Wingard.

The exception seems to be Sydney. Though Mcglynn and Cunningham do it for them.

 

[tigerz18]

gee i wish we got Walters when he was on offer a couple years ago.... we almost had him as well.

 

[Conca Truck]

What about Gordon and Lids, they have been good up forward for us lately.

 

[Mr Magic]

Edwards has more worth in midfield. Cotchin, Martin and Deledio are good mid-size rotation options. Gordon has more worth as a high half forward (similar to the Chris Knights role) as shown on the weekend. Lloyd isn't quick.

I agree with OP, we are lacking a genuine small, crumbing, pacey forward. Does anyone remember how much Betts, Yarran and Gartlett tore us up in the Elim final last year?

FF Gartlett Riewoldt Resting Mid (Cotchin, Lids, Martin)
F Griffiths Vickery Gordon/Edwards

They tore us up because they we were s**t not because they were good. Look at Hampson and Betts now! Even Garlett is failing at CFC.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

We have a speedy small forward already - McBean!

I wouldn't mind Garlett but only if the price is right. I think Lloyd will be a solid option in the long term, has great goal sense.

 

[tigs2010]

What about Gordon and Lids, they have been good up forward for us lately.

Neither are a real crumber. More marking medium types. I think an elite crumber would enjoy playing next to Jack.

 

[Conca Truck]

Neither are a real crumber. More marking medium types. I think an elite crumber would enjoy playing next to Jack.

Yeah you're right.
Gordon and Lids filling that role for now, but it's something we should look to address in the off season.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

William Hoskin Elliot

Would get Gartlett for depth if he was cheap enough though. Has more upside than Llyod. Llyod is unfortunately A.Edwards the second... Tall man trapped in a small mans

HF: S.Edwards/Deledio - Griffiths - WHE/Gordon
FF: Martin/Cotchin - Riewoldt - Vickery

Take his mate Adam Kennedy too in a package.
One to kick the goals,the other to shut blokes down and distribute the pill.
Ten years out of each.
Trade Hampson for them.
It's a fair deal.
Get it done tigers...

 

[captain cotch 9]

I hate the Blues with every fibre of my being, but after losing Matthew White we clearly lack speed and dont have a quality small forward. There aren't many players available at the moment but there is one that comes to mind that is out of favor... Jeff Garlett. I think we should make a play for him though a trade, thoughts?

I think our clubs rates mids that can rotate through the foward line higher than a stay at home small foward.

 

[juss]

I was firmly of the belief we should have gone for Betts as a free agent. Exactly what our forward line could use.