West Coast vs Collingwood

[ROYAL EAGLE]

NN has had a great month or so and is a terrific ruckman.

But please let's not get hysterical. He smashed Maric and Jake Carlisle in his last two games.

Cut the crap about him being better than Cox.

Exactly, Cox ball use for a ruckman was elite, the game has never seen a ruckman as dual sided, and
good as kick as him.
Ruckman generally average around 12 possessions a game.
Cox average 20+ often and his ball use was superb, better user of the footy than Juddy
and Cousins.

 

[JackOutback]

Naitanui's tackles should dispel the idea that he has no mongrel in him; he hits people harder than just about anyone playing. He also crashes a pack like no other. He might come across as a nice guy, but don't let that fool you, he can hurt people.

 

[JackOutback]

Also, Collingwood have seriously gone up in my estimation in the past two weeks. Should rightly start as favourites in a couple of weeks (and I would have the Eagles as favourites if it was being played at Subi, a sign of how close the two teams are).

 

[kranky al]

Si impressed with the pies last night. Bit more poise on the finishing and they would have romped home.

If they had kennedy they would be pretty hard to beat

By the same token If we could clone pendles we would be a unit

 

[Dagless]

Sorry, he definitely has the desire as shown by his manic pressure around contests but I want my number 1 ruck to be more physical and aggressive which I see Grundy as being the better out of the two at.

Naita dominates in the ruck because of finesse, why would you want him to play like a grunt instead?

Over the top physicality is normally a specialty of ruckman who can't match it with Naita's skills. They normally quit going for the ball though and just start cannonballing into him.

Outside of those contests, his 1%ers and tackle count should more than adequately highlight his ferocity around the ball otherwise.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Collingwood have the most ovverated youth in the league. There proven youth is good but people are basing it on all these top ten picks of theirs which could turn out duds. We have Yeo, sheed, duggan, darling, gaff, Lycett, McGovern and cripps who have proven they will be good players. Pies have witts, grundy, Elliot, Langdon, JDG, Adams and Oxley who have proven they will be good players. Both clubs have many unknown young talents.

You actually forgot about our best young player, Marley Williams.

 

[Pendles!]

Naita dominates in the ruck because of finesse, why would you want him to play like a grunt instead?

Over the top physicality is normally a specialty of ruckman who can't match it with Naita's skills. They normally quit going for the ball though and just start cannonballing into him.

Outside of those contests, his 1%ers and tackle count should more than adequately highlight his ferocity around the ball otherwise.

Does he dominate though?

None of your post is relevant to my post. I was stating who I'd rather and why, don't take it personally.

 

[JackOutback]

Does he dominate though?

None of your post is relevant to my post. I was stating who I'd rather and why, don't take it personally.

Yes. Yes he does.

 

[Dagless]

Does he dominate though?

None of your post is relevant to my post. I was stating who I'd rather and why, don't take it personally.

Yes.

Rest of post an extrapolation of the argument.

Not taking it personally, just think you're wrong from a physicality PoV, which is separate to preference.

 

[Pendles!]

Yes.

Rest of post an extrapolation of the argument.

Not taking it personally, just think you're wrong from a physicality PoV, which is separate to preference.

Oh please.. The bloke averages 11 disposals and less than a mark a game.

I was stating Grundy is more physical and aggressive than Nat which is probably correct.

 

[Dagless]

Oh please..

I was stating Grundy is more physical and aggressive than Nat which is probably correct.

Wrong in the context that physicality is intrinsically a trait that makes a ruckman better, when Naita dominates due to finesse and skill rather than grunt. Which is true.

Despite that, argued that Naita plays with plenty of physicality and aggression, just in a vastly different way (a way that most rucks don't have the athleticism to replicate.

Don't take it so personally

 

[Pendles!]

Wrong in the context that physicality is intrinsically a trait that makes a ruckman better, when Naita dominates due to finesse and skill rather than grunt. Which is true.

Despite that, argued that Naita plays with plenty of physicality and aggression, just in a vastly different way (a way that most rucks don't have the athleticism to replicate.

Don't take it so personally

Yeah fair enough. Either way we're comparing a 21 year old with a 25 year old and I'd rather big brody for a multitude of reasons

 

[Woobla Stainz]

Yeah fair enough. Either way we're comparing a 21 year old with a 25 year old and I'd rather big brody for a multitude of reasons

is there any Eagle you would rather over a pie of the same position in the 22?

 

[Pendles!]

is there any Eagle you would rather over a pie of the same position in the 22?

Yeah there'd be a few. Kennedy obviously and i feel we need someone like Lycett to play second ruck, etc. Gaff, Shuey, Priddis would slot in.

It's not outrageous to prefer Grundy....

 

[gym4life]

Yeah there'd be a few. Kennedy obviously and i feel we need someone like Lycett to play second ruck, etc. Gaff, Shuey, Priddis would slot in.

It's not outrageous to prefer Grundy....

It's pretty outrageous.

 

[Pendles!]

It's pretty outrageous.

What's outrageous is a ruckman averaging less than 1 mark a game.....

 

[gym4life]

What's outrageous is a ruckman averaging less than 1 mark a game.....

Why is it? You know nothing about football if you think naitanui isn't a top 3 ruck right now.

 

[Underdog]

What's outrageous is a ruckman averaging less than 1 mark a game.....

The best way to discredit your opinion is to make moronic, sensationalist statements like above

 

[Pendles!]

Why is it? You know nothing about football if you think naitanui isn't a top 3 ruck right now.

The best way to discredit your opinion is to make moronic, sensationalist statements like above

 

[Pendles!]

The best way to discredit your opinion is to make moronic, sensationalist statements like above

Yet factually correct..

 

[DERIBERATE]

Naitanui's tackles should dispel the idea that he has no mongrel in him; he hits people harder than just about anyone playing. He also crashes a pack like no other. He might come across as a nice guy, but don't let that fool you, he can hurt people.

Dreamin'

Mumford & Maric hit 2x hard in a pack/ruck.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

You actually forgot about our best young player, Marley Williams.

Nah Crisp is rapidly taking that mantle looks a beauty, worth losing Beams for.

 

[Underdog]

Yet factually correct..

Wrong.

Your post was subjective, not factual.

 

[Pendles!]

Wrong.

Your post was subjective, not factual.

just because it's disgraceful doesn't make it any less factual..

Alright, had enough of the Naitanui circle jerk. Enjoy your 1 mark 10 possession 3 tackle a game supposed elite ruckman.

 

[beerbandit]

Wrong in the context that physicality is intrinsically a trait that makes a ruckman better, when Naita dominates due to finesse and skill rather than grunt. Which is true.

Despite that, argued that Naita plays with plenty of physicality and aggression, just in a vastly different way (a way that most rucks don't have the athleticism to replicate.

Don't take it so personally

Wrong