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OneHow many years have we had Gault on the rookie list?
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OneHow many years have we had Gault on the rookie list?
Been Report that we are Intrested in George Burbery that was De-Listed from Geelong
What about Oxley? End of first contract?
Bad move if we do. He's going to be a top player.He means we would drop Ramsay to the rookie list Dave
You are probably correct, although Frosty can remain on the rookie list for 1 more year (upgrade next year with LTI).It's not a question - Frost signed a new 2-year contract late in the 2014 season so he has to be promoted.
Someone is definitely going to get delisted before the draft as we'll obviously be using pick 48 (it's far too early a pick to use on a rookie upgrade).
You are probably correct, although Frosty can remain on the rookie list for 1 more year (upgrade next year with LTI).
haha happy Birthday swampy.I threw this together the other day to try to get my head around it myself:
It all depends on what they do with Frost - there is room to still have him on the rookie list this year (he'd be promoted for the full season to cover for Scharenberg) and if they went that way we'd have 36 players on the senior list going into the draft and room for picks 5, 9, 30 and 48.
It is also possible that we promote Frost and delist one of Oxley or Ramsay and re-draft them as a rookie, which would again leave us with space for the four picks in the ND.
We currently have 37 "permanent" senior listed players including all of Greenwood, Varcoe, Crisp and Moore.
We then have 2 upgraded rookies in Gault and Frost who can be returned to the rookie list if we wish I would assume.
Gault will be you'd think. That would then leave us with 2 live selections on draft day in 5 and 30.
With Frost we have the choice up upgrading him on draft day to become a "permanent" senior listed player or downgrade him to the rookie list.
If we downgrade him we can then add him back to the senior list prior to the season with Scharenberg added to the LTI injury list.
Take this route and we'll be able to use pick 48 as a live selection on draft day.
Of course we may have more delistings to come of one or two players.
We will be using 5 and 30 on draft day that must is sure, quality players can be found at 30 and I'll be surprised if we don't retain the ability to use pick 48 as a "live" selection as well. Some Hine specials should still be available around that mark.
We have 2 long term injuries on our list meaning if we aim to use 30 and 48 in the draft. We will have 40 players on the senior list and 4 rookies.
Frost whilst he warrants being on the senior list he can be elevated for either Macaffer or Scharenberg given they will most likely be on the long term injury list. Mid season we will be able to elevate a rookie automatically (Frost), therefore I expect we will be using both 30 and 48 in this years National draft, hence why we gave Brisbane pick 67.
Such a funny question, because as we stand now, we either don't promote Frost, or we promote him and delist another player yet, to give us the room. I noticed after I originally posted this, that it has been covered in discussion already, but this is still relevant.
OUT: Beams, Lumumba, Ball, Maxwell, Clarke, Lynch
IN: Greenwood, Varcoe, Crisp, Moore, Frost???
6 out, 5 in, means one more pick at pick 5 and we are done.
UNLESS we delist one of Ramsey, Oxley, Armstrong, Dwyer.
48 too early to promote a rookie IMO so delist or demote a player so we can use 5, 30, 48 & promote frost
Hudson was on the senior list as a nominated rookie wasn't he???
Such a funny question, because as we stand now, we either don't promote Frost, or we promote him and delist another player yet, to give us the room. I noticed after I originally posted this, that it has been covered in discussion already, but this is still relevant.
OUT: Beams, Lumumba, Ball, Maxwell, Clarke, Lynch
IN: Greenwood, Varcoe, Crisp, Moore, Frost???
6 out, 5 in, means one more pick at pick 5 and we are done.
UNLESS we delist one of Ramsey, Oxley, Armstrong, Dwyer.
We could very well be out of the draft by pick 5 ... So Jack Frost is an option for pick 30.
We currently have 33 on the senior list.
We need minimum 5 to fill out our senior list to fill it out to 38 (maximum 7 to fill in out to 40)
The 5 would be Pick 5, Moore, Varcoe, Greenwood and Frost. In that scenario we'd pick up 5 new category A rookies and retain Gault to make 6 total category A rookies + Mason Cox as a category B rookie.
This was our strategy two years ago.
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Hine goes into the draft with maximum flexibility.
He could not use picks 30 or 48, and have 6 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2012)
He could use picks 30 or 48, and have 4 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2013)
He could use picks 30 and/or 48 (or even later!), and have up to 6 on our cat A rookie list if the club makes additional delistings (Who would be candidates? Armstrong? ???)
Correct. Our senior list of 40 is reduced by 7 players (not 6 as suggested above).Hudson was on the senior list as a nominated rookie wasn't he???
We currently have 37 "fixed" senior list players (including Moore, Greenwood etc) and 2 upgraded rookies in Gault and Frost.
If we want to officially upgrade both Gault and Frost at the national draft then yes without delisting a player/s we'd only be able to use the number 5 selection.
However we have the option of returning Gault to the rookie list and this would free up another position on the list so we could use selection 30.
This seems likely to me at present.
To be able to use pick 48 we then have to decide between returning Frost to the rookie list short term (he'll be upgraded for the Scharenberg LTI) or delisting a player from our list prior to the draft.
No way will we go to the draft with only one live selection at 5. It will be 5 and 30 at a minimum and I'll be surprised if we don't allow ourselves the option of taking someone at 48 also.
Yep, I think that is correctWe currently have 37 "fixed" senior list players (including Moore, Greenwood etc) and 2 upgraded rookies in Gault and Frost.
If we want to officially upgrade both Gault and Frost at the national draft then yes without delisting a player/s we'd only be able to use the number 5 selection.
However we have the option of returning Gault to the rookie list and this would free up another position on the list so we could use selection 30.
This seems likely to me at present.
To be able to use pick 48 we then have to decide between returning Frost to the rookie list short term (he'll be upgraded for the Scharenberg LTI) or delisting a player from our list prior to the draft.
No way will we go to the draft with only one live selection at 5. It will be 5 and 30 at a minimum and I'll be surprised if we don't allow ourselves the option of taking someone at 48 also.