What should Stew Crameri do?

[VitalDread]

Likely to get around 6month ban which he will take during the off season

 

[ManWithNoName]

Doesn't make any sense.

Why would he go to ASADA to negotiate a penalty now, BEFORE they let them all see the evidence which they will in a couple of weeks? (After the appeal period from the trial expires)

 

[Zgope1]

Doesn't make any sense.

Why would he go to ASADA to negotiate a penalty now, BEFORE they let them all see the evidence which they will in a couple of weeks? (After the appeal period from the trial expires)

Probably because he knows he's cooked anyway and is going to take responsibility sooner rather than later

 

[Mofra]

Why would he go to ASADA to negotiate a penalty now, BEFORE they let them all see the evidence which they will in a couple of weeks? (After the appeal period from the trial expires)

He would have an outline of the terms & charges from the previous SCNs I'd imagine.

He has no blind allegiance to Hird so has the capacity to think for himself.

 

[Tommycash]

Doesn't make any sense.

Why would he go to ASADA to negotiate a penalty now, BEFORE they let them all see the evidence which they will in a couple of weeks? (After the appeal period from the trial expires)

Same reason the NRL boys did it. They know something dodgy happened, they know they are ****ed if they try and fight it, and ASADA is willing to give them a severely reduced penalty if they can get it done and dusted quickly. Stew will only do it if he's being given assurances of leniency. I'm glad it will have some finality about it now.

 

[Dry Rot]

But there's a problem. The 34 players IIRC tacitly backed the Dons legal challenge and did not rollover like the Sharks. Also what the Sharks did was much smaller in scope.

Anything less than a 12 months penalty (halving the 24 months for co-operating) and ASADA looks like a complete joke.

 

[igloo dweller]

squeal like a lil piggy stew...oink oink

 

[fronkalicious]

But there's a problem. The 34 players IIRC tacitly backed the Dons legal challenge and did not rollover like the Sharks. Also what the Sharks did was much smaller in scope.

Anything less than a 12 months penalty (halving the 24 months for co-operating) and ASADA looks like a complete joke.

Asada already look like a complete joke to be fair DR.

 

[Toastman]

Anyone know if Crameri is doing the pre-emptive unofficial ban option already 'just in case' or is he still attending team activities?

 

[Sedat!]

He should sing like a canary and tell ASADA everything he knows. If that means we miss out on his services for a period of time so be it - there should be zero tolerance for performance-enhancing drug cheating in our game, and the quicker this systematic doping regime at Essendon is exposed the better for the long term health of the game.

 

[LukasTheGreat]

He would be getting advised by Gordon every step of the way.

 

[GOAUS!]

But there's a problem. The 34 players IIRC tacitly backed the Dons legal challenge and did not rollover like the Sharks. Also what the Sharks did was much smaller in scope.

Anything less than a 12 months penalty (halving the 24 months for co-operating) and ASADA looks like a complete joke.

It's an interesting one, IIRC Cronulla got their bans backdated because ASADA committed a lot of their capacity to the Essendon situation. Yet I keep hearing about 6 month bans and only missing 3-6 home and away matches. I agree that after all Essendon have done to put obstacles in the road, you would think ASADA would be pushing for sizeable bans. Interesting times.

 

[Mofra]

It's an interesting one, IIRC Cronulla got their bans backdated because ASADA committed a lot of their capacity to the Essendon situation. Yet I keep hearing about 6 month bans and only missing 3-6 home and away matches. I agree that after all Essendon have done to put obstacles in the road, you would think ASADA would be pushing for sizeable bans. Interesting times.

The first canary to sing will give them a huge amount of weight in the investigations though - tweet tweet tweet Stew, and we get you back sooner rather than later.

 

[Fossie 32]

Greg Denham said on SEN today show cause notices to be sent out on Monday

 

[boydsno1]

Yep, Apparently players have asked for the process to be fast tracked.

 

[Dizzy Stuff]

He would be getting advised by Gordon every step of the way.

Don't think this is really Gordon's area of expertise, I'm confident he would be ensuring that Stew is getting the right advice from someone else though.

 

[Dizzy Stuff]

Great news.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/st...hires-top-lawyer/story-e6frf7jo-1227083019924

 

[ThirdLegUp]

Great news.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/st...hires-top-lawyer/story-e6frf7jo-1227083019924

ok s**t going down now. well done cramers

 

[Tommycash]

Very interesting. Hopefully he gets treated well.

 

[Zephiisdaman]

He has made enquiries to break away from Essendon overlords, good luck Stew

 

[Zephiisdaman]

I would imagine Essendon players would be looking at this very closely. Could be a free for all soon.

 

[igloo dweller]

msut admit i gave a little fist-pump in the car when i heard this on the way to work this morning...stew wants it over with. the bombers players aren't pushing things along due to their 'club first mentality' - and good on them (seriously EFC players have been incredible ). but stew isn't required to do what's best for EFC, and the doggies have said to stew, 'do what's best for you'.

all the best stew...the red, white and blue are behind you

 

[TempleKelvington]

It's the players association they are breaking away from not Essendon. Players association are running a "class action" on behalf of the 34 players who have been given a show cause notice, but both Crameri and Prismal are getting their own lawyers to represent them. The AFLPA are saying that there is no indication they are going with a different defense to the rest, but then why break away I guess.

At this stage ASADA have not yet provided any proof of what has happened, so it's hard for the players to build their defense. Hird's appeal has slowed things down again....but of course he's doing that to help the players and not himself.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

The claim that "All 34 players have until now been represented solely by a legal team led by the AFL Players' Association." is patently false.

As I have said in the past. I know for certain that there is at least one past or present member of the 34 served with a SCN that has engaged independent legal counsel.

 

[cammo78]

Anything less than a 12 months penalty (halving the 24 months for co-operating) and ASADA looks like a complete joke.

That would be true if ASADA had concrete evidence - which they clearly don't - which is what has allowed Essendon to drag this out over two full years.

That's why they are so keen on having the players ostensibly dob themselves in and take bans voluntarily.