only rogers is really prepared to dig in and build an innings when it's tough. the rest it's see ball hit ball and when it's swinging they're brought horribly undone
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What the * has happened to this team?
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the new India: dominant at home, weak as piss away
We've won tests away from home
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true, but some of our recent o/s series (subcontinent) have been absolute beltings
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Six consecutive losses on the subcontinent is the current streak.
With Anderson out for the series.. I'm going to back us in to win the next match. Need our batsmen toift though. Smith had a poor match which didn't help. Not sure what Clarke is doing, losing concentration is a sign of aging and I think he may be nearly done.
Voges has been bitterly disappointing. WI tour showed promise, but I can't see him being selected for our next series. At his age you can't afford to perform like he has. Mitch Marsh hasn't translated his form from before the main series either.
In short. S.Marsh in for Voges and Haddin in for Nevill. Cummins/Siddle in for Starc.
Lyon has been our best performer overall for me. Consistent in his efforts and keeping an end tight. If we can get more out of the place Starc has been taking, and have our middle order actually make any runs we will win the next match.
Voges has been bitterly disappointing. WI tour showed promise, but I can't see him being selected for our next series. At his age you can't afford to perform like he has. Mitch Marsh hasn't translated his form from before the main series either.
In short. S.Marsh in for Voges and Haddin in for Nevill. Cummins/Siddle in for Starc.
Lyon has been our best performer overall for me. Consistent in his efforts and keeping an end tight. If we can get more out of the place Starc has been taking, and have our middle order actually make any runs we will win the next match.
I'm damned if I know who is going to replace Clark. We don't have batsmen coming through. I don't believe Joe Burns would have done well at Edgbaston considering how poor he's been for Midx.
Tracks are going to be flatties. That might help the Aussies.
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The Australian batting has long been fragile. Our world class bowlers have made us look like a number one team, but it doesn't take much for the batting to fall apart against quality bowling. That, and not playing well to international conditions.
Chill.
Bombers was calling all summer for Voges to be selected.
Don't bother with him. He'll changes his mind every week
Yeah against the Saffers (similar conditions to Australia) and the bloody Windies
I for one am pretty concerned about our tour of Bangladesh
Batting this awful nah even harris wouldn't save us, harris was the best bowler in the 2013 ashes in england but we still got spanked.
Even pidge and warne needed runs on the board,All out 36 overs is game over no matter how great your bowling might be, maybe it would have been a closer game with harris bowling late on day 1 but we still lose the match in the end.
Even pidge and warne needed runs on the board,All out 36 overs is game over no matter how great your bowling might be, maybe it would have been a closer game with harris bowling late on day 1 but we still lose the match in the end.
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In all seriousness, I've been disappointed by our tail's batting. Before Starc's half century, they have hardly fired a shot, when you could usually rely on them form 50 to 100 runs. It's not their responsibility, but it did come in handy.
Yeah but they're tailenders for a reason.
Good test bowlers should be able to get them out cheaply more often than not
Our best tailend bat is johnson but isn't he pretty much like our top 6?
Plenty of runs at home and in SA but simply not the same force on pitches that don't suit, our tail just aren't going to make as many runs vs top quality swing.
Plenty of runs at home and in SA but simply not the same force on pitches that don't suit, our tail just aren't going to make as many runs vs top quality swing.
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Compared to past years, we are in trouble. We bat deep, all the way down to 10, but very flaky and prone to collapses.
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Our tail scores 50-100 runs on flat decks when the ball isn't swinging. Any cricketer with half-decent batting technique can survive for a while in those sorts of conditions, and if they're big strong guys like Johnson and Starc then they can bludgeon quite a a few runs before they get a ball good enough to dislodge them.
Doing that while exposed to fresh bowlers on seaming pitches and a new (or even newish) Duke is an entirely different proposition. It's not realistic to expect tailenders to survive when the ball is moving around. Consistently combating movement is one of the more sophisticated parts of batting, and bowlers simply don't have the requisite skills.
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Both Johnson and Starc have scored 50s in this series which is more than Voges or Marsh or Clarke has.
nothing has changed - plenty of examples over the last 5 years where we've batted like millionaires. my favorite types of collapse are those where we even have a first innings lead but go crazy and fall over without enough to bowl at in a 4th innings.
i was kind of hopeful for voges - it's a bit of a throwback to guys like martin love, hussey, hodge, who spent years and years honing their craft in first class cricket before debuting. remains to be seen if he's even picked for the rest of the tour.
i was kind of hopeful for voges - it's a bit of a throwback to guys like martin love, hussey, hodge, who spent years and years honing their craft in first class cricket before debuting. remains to be seen if he's even picked for the rest of the tour.
