Who will win the FOXTEL Cup?

FOXTEL Cup Champions

  • Williamstown (Vic)

    Votes: 1 100.0%

  • North Ballarat (Vic)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Northern Bullants (Vic)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Port Adelaide Magpies (SA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • North Adelaide (SA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • West Adelaide (SA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Swan Districts (WA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Claremont (WA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • East Perth (WA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Morningside (Qld)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labrador (Qld)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Clarence (Tas)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • East Coast Eagles (NSW)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • NT Thunder (NT)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • GWS (AFL invitee)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Ainslie (ACT)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    1

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NT Thunder D Morningside
East Perth D North Ballarat
Swan Districts D Williamstown
West Adelaide D Ainslie
Claremont D Clarence
Northern Bullants D GWS
Port Adelaide D East Coast
North Adelaide D Labrador

East Perth D NT Thunder
Swan Districts D West Adelaide
Northern Bullants D Claremont
North Adelaide D Port Adelaide

Swan Districts D East Perth
North Adelaide D Northern Bullants

North Adelaide D Swan Districts

ps - that's North bias, I really think the Bullants will beat North, then go on to win it all
 
This comp will bring back a few memories for those who remember the old Escort Championships in the late 1970's-early 1980s. Long before the advent of the national comp in 1987, teams such as Swan Districts, Port Adelaide, Claremont, Norwood, would go up against VFL clubs like Carlton, Hawthorn, North Melbourne on a cold, wet night at Waverley Park in front of a 1000 people, while the majority of people would be watching it at home on Seven, with the commentators Peter Landy, Lou Richards and Bob Skilton calling the action.
 

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willy should have won the vfl prem last yr and have recrutied pretty well this yr, providing the bulldogs dont get ravaged by inj prob will win it
 
Why would footy clubs like the SANFL's Central Districts want to not participate in a comp like this, where clubs outside the AFL would never get a better chance to not only play against teams such as Swan Districts, North Ballarat, Clarence, Claremont, but also promoting your club before a national TV audience..and in prime time too, regardless of the result. And it would also give young players on a club (ie East Perth) a chance to show their talent in front of not just people watching on Fox Sports, but also AFL club recruiting officers as well.
 
Jascave said:
Why would footy clubs like the SANFL's Central Districts want to not participate in a comp like this,
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They were basically given the ultimatum "you're either in, or you're out" before the details were in place

They didn't know what benefits the competition would provide to the club, and they thought it'd ruin the teams premiership asperations in the SANFL.

The top 5 teams in the SANFL all said no for this same reason (well, 4 of the top 5 did, I think Glenelg had their own excuse). I can't blame them, why increase your work load, your fatigue levels, and ruin any chances they could have for getting to their goal, over something that is still in theory with nothing concrete.

If the current info was put out 2 months ago, they probably would of joint in, but it was the way this has been rushed, and how the info wasn't available for everyone when the ultimatum was put out, is why some of the SANFL clubs declined.

Our best will be in next year if it still goes ahead. It's just how the AFL and foxtel rushed it this year with limited information is why they didn't join this year.
 
Morningside Vs NT Thunder
East Perth Vs North Ballarat
Swan Districts Vs Williamstown
West Adelaide Vs Ainslie
Claremont Vs Clarence
Northern Bullants Vs GWS
Port Adelaide Vs East Coast
North Adelaide Vs Labrador

Really all the SANFL sides have easy 1st round wins & with Port & North Adelaide meeting in the quarters, one SANFL side is virtually guaranteed a semi final berth. In fact Port Adelaide should play there reserves vs East Coast & they will still win by 10 goals.
Claremont will beat Clarence.
Northern Bullatnts should beat GWS easily.
Whoever wins Morningside Vs NT Thunder will get easily beaten by East Perth or North Ballarat.
The two WAFL Vs VFL clashes are the pick of round 1.

Swan Districts & Williamstown have the hardest draw with the winner of there game probably playing West Adelaide in the Quarters, North Ballarat or Swan Districts in the Semis & another quality team in the final. Of course thats if there is no real upsets.
Hopefully there is one or two big upsets, would certainly make for some great discussion on this forum & will be good for this competition.
 
Dirty Bird said:
NT Thunder D Morningside
East Perth D North Ballarat
Swan Districts D Williamstown
West Adelaide D Ainslie
Claremont D Clarence
Northern Bullants D GWS
Port Adelaide D East Coast
North Adelaide D Labrador

East Perth D NT Thunder
Swan Districts D West Adelaide
Northern Bullants D Claremont
North Adelaide D Port Adelaide

Swan Districts D East Perth
North Adelaide D Northern Bullants

North Adelaide D Swan Districts

pMs - that's North bias, I really think the Bullants will beat North, then go on to win it all
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Morningside will beat Thunder in Brisbane, the Thunder actually finished 5th in the comp up here.
 
I reckon there should be two medals, one to be awarded to the best player in the Foxtel Cup comp, the other to be awarded to the best & fairest in the comp overall. I propose that the medal for the best player in the Foxtel Cup comp be known as the Ron Barassi Medal, the other (best on ground in Foxtel Cup GF) be known as the Jack Hamilton Medal, named after the late Jack Hamilton who was the General Manager and later Chief Commissioner of the then VFL in the 1980s.
 
Speedyunit said:
Morningside will beat Thunder in Brisbane, the Thunder actually finished 5th in the comp up here.
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Are you taking into account the Andrew McLeod factor?
 
Jascave said:
Why would footy clubs like the SANFL's Central Districts want to not participate in a comp like this, where clubs outside the AFL would never get a better chance to not only play against teams such as Swan Districts, North Ballarat, Clarence, Claremont, but also promoting your club before a national TV audience..and in prime time too, regardless of the result. And it would also give young players on a club (ie East Perth) a chance to show their talent in front of not just people watching on Fox Sports, but also AFL club recruiting officers as well.
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Because they're cowards.

The SANFL clubs do seem to have by far the easiest run in the comp though. West Adelaide and Port could field reserves teams and still win comfortably.
 
If the Foxtel Cup goes well-really well-in its first year, would it be interesting to see not just the top clubs from the VFL, SANFL, WAFL, AFLNSW, AFL Queensland, AFL Tasmania, AFLNT, but also the premier clubs from competitions such as the VAFA, VCFL, EFL, SFL, WRFL as well in future years?
 

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Jascave said:
If the Foxtel Cup goes well-really well-in its first year, would it be interesting to see not just the top clubs from the VFL, SANFL, WAFL, AFLNSW, AFL Queensland, AFL Tasmania, AFLNT, but also the premier clubs from competitions such as the VAFA, VCFL, EFL, SFL, WRFL as well in future years?
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I hope they do eventually expand it to include metro and country league premiers but if they did go down that path they would need qualifying knockout round(s) before the big boys from the VFL SANFL and WAFL join in. Similar to what they do in the FA Cup where the EPL clubs don't join in until the 3rd round.
 
Say for example VAFA premiers Old Xavs, EFL premiers Vermont, SFL premiers St Kilda City & Eaglehawk as representative of the VCFL (the VCFL has their own qualifying series among the premiers clubs from each of the country leagues in the VCFL) qualify for the 2013 Foxtel Cup and they line up agains the VFL, SANFL, WAFL sides-how would the 2013 Foxtel Cup draw look:

Vermont v Claremont
Eaglehawk v North Ballarat
Morningside v Ainslie
Old Xaverians v Glenelg
South Fremantle v Norwood
Sandringham v St Kilda City
NT Thunder v East Coast Eagles
 
mighty tiges said:
I hope they do eventually expand it to include metro and country league premiers but if they did go down that path they would need qualifying knockout round(s) before the big boys from the VFL SANFL and WAFL join in. Similar to what they do in the FA Cup where the EPL clubs don't join in until the 3rd round.
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Pretty much. In theory you could have regional pre-qualifying rounds between the champions of all the smaller leagues and allow maybe 1 or 2 into the main draw. But all of that can get pretty expensive, and Australian football isn't one of those games where a gulf in class can be made up through a change in tactics. An amateur club would probably get slaughtered by 20+ goals by a good state league side, and they couldn't just prevent damage by going defensive.
 
Jascave said:
If the Foxtel Cup goes well-really well-in its first year, would it be interesting to see not just the top clubs from the VFL, SANFL, WAFL, AFLNSW, AFL Queensland, AFL Tasmania, AFLNT, but also the premier clubs from competitions such as the VAFA, VCFL, EFL, SFL, WRFL as well in future years?
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the vafa is already thinking of doing there own fa cup in 2012
 
So much will come down to travel. If it was all on neutral territory, and all the best sides were playing, the best SANFL side would romp home. As it is, with the bottom sides from the SANFL, and travel being an issue; the draw will be the big thing. How is home team to be determined in the later rounds? Random draw? Will the winners of games 1,3,5,7 host? If the latter, I reckon Swan Districts might get the gong and all 3 WAFL sides will be in the semis.
 
Jascave said:
Say for example VAFA premiers Old Xavs, EFL premiers Vermont, SFL premiers St Kilda City & Eaglehawk as representative of the VCFL (the VCFL has their own qualifying series among the premiers clubs from each of the country leagues in the VCFL) qualify for the 2013 Foxtel Cup and they line up agains the VFL, SANFL, WAFL sides-how would the 2013 Foxtel Cup draw look:

Vermont v Claremont
Eaglehawk v North Ballarat
Morningside v Ainslie
Old Xaverians v Glenelg
South Fremantle v Norwood
Sandringham v St Kilda City
NT Thunder v East Coast Eagles
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Firstly if you did this, you would have to have suburban & country teams from more states, not just Victoria and the competition would take too long & would have quite a few blowouts.
Oh & by the way, Vermont didn't even make finals in 2010. Noble Park won the EFL Premiership.


The Suburban & Country leagues should run there own Premiers Cup.
 
muesli said:
Firstly if you did this, you would have to have suburban & country teams from more states, not just Victoria and the competition would take too long & would have quite a few blowouts.
Oh & by the way, Vermont didn't even make finals in 2010. Noble Park won the EFL Premiership.


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I agree. Even though the like of Old Xavs and Noble Park may well be better than Clarence from Tas or East Coast from Sydney, this comps stength is the fact that it draws from all over the county. The travel cost aspect will also limit the number of teams. I think they have got the number, format and make up of the teams abut right, although it would be nice if top SANFL clubs were in.

By the way, a shortened game, travel, and complacency could lead to the occasional upset. A Qld team or Ainslie could provide a shock if anyone sends a 2nd string team.
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Out of the WA sides I've voted for Swan Districts but Swans and East Perth have had a lot of changes in the off season. Swans have had a change of coach and lost Krakouer, Twomey, Spencer and probably Casserly but they have picked up quite a few replacements. Ashley Hansen is now a full time Swans player (he has played for Swans while at WC, which was quite often and always played well for them).

East Perth have had a few retirements and player losses but they have probably been the standout recruiting wise in the off season picking up Josh Smith (ex NM) and Graham Polak (ex Frem/Rich) plus a few others and are very well coached.

Claremont have had minimal changes since losing the grand final to Swans by 1 point. They've lost only Derickx who acquitted himself well tonight for Richmond so they could be the best bet from WA.
 
I reckon it would most like be a Swan Districts v North Ballarat Grand Final. Port Adelaide and possibly Williamstown might be in the semi finals of the Foxtel Cup.
 
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