Why Adelaide should be stripped of its home final

[Rourke]

Adelaide 68 points vs Collingwood 64 points
Played 17 games against common opponents including two each against Geelong.
Played each other once in Adelaide: Collingwood won.
Wins from those 18 games: Adelaide 13, Collingwood 14
Remaining matches, all at home (* means hosting at neutral venue)

Adelaide      Collingwood
========      ===========
Gold Coast    West Coast
G.W."Ess"     Essendon*
Port Adel*    Carlton*
Fremantle     Hawthorn*

Read across each line and see the relative strength of the opposition. Collingwood won 2, Adelaide 4. With Adelaide's draw, most teams would have won 4, and I'm betting they would do better than Adelaide's percentage of 162.6% from those four games (contributed 6% to their final percentage)

Adelaide 68 points vs Geelong 60 points
Played 16 games against common opponents for 13 wins each.
Played each other twice for a win each.
Remaining matches, all at home (* means hosting at neutral venue):

Adelaide      Geelong
========      =======
G.W.Sydney    Real Sydney
Port Magpies* Real Magpies*
Gold Coast    W.Bulldogs
Fremantle     Hawthorn*

Same idea: big gulf between the team on the right and the team on the left. Anyone think Adelaide would have finished in the top four with Geelong's draw?

 

[ManWithNoName]

Sure, you can work out complicate formulas like that. Or you can look at the official AFL ladder which has Adelaide 2nd and therefore earning a home final. Whatever floats your boat.

 

[George Washington]

Wait, Adelaide has an easy draw!?

We're only just finding out now!? When did this happen!?

 

[Dagless]

Why Rourke is an idiot

OP Title

If you're going to try and make a discussion, don't give it a Bay 13-esque title. Slinging match abound.

 

[jenny61_99]

And do we take into account the fact that Collingwood travels how many times to Adelaide's 11? Surely that has to be worth something in your equation?

 

[Underarm]

Yes they should be stipped of their home final and relegated to 5th where they have to play North Melbourne in....?


/thread

 

[BigLefty]

someone is going to be soooooo pleased to get to play adelaide or sydney in a soft prelim

 

[Underarm]

And do we take into account the fact that Collingwood travels how many times to Adelaide's 11? Surely that has to be worth something in your equation?

I'm on your side, BUT you also actually get a home ground advantage for 12 weeks a year. That part can't be changed.

 

[jenny61_99]

I'm on your side, BUT you also actually get a home ground advantage for 12 weeks a year. That part can't be changed.

Indeed, but Collingwood get one for what, 18 games a season on average? crows would love to play at home 18 times a year.

 

[Necromancer Beth]

I fully endorse the op.

 

[timmyleaps]

Poor thread.

 

[jenny61_99]

So, what happens if, by some small miracle on the grounds that we are so crap, we happen to win the grand final, does that mean we didn't deserve it?

 

[liam_13]

Absolute disgrace that Adelaide are top 4.

Adelaide - 14th last year, always get to play Port twice, so can't whinge about that. Don't get much FTA coverage outside of SA, don't get the chance to bring in extra money through massive crowds year in year out

Collingwood - 1st in 2010 and 2nd in 2011, continuously telling us how they are the biggest club in the land. Hence they get to play big drawing clubs, which also happen to be in some pretty good form recently (Hawthorn, Geelong, Carlton and Essendon all played finals in the last few years). Increase in exposure, increase in crowds, increase in revenue.

Geelong - the best team of past 6 years, does anyone actually think they should get to play GWS or GC twice??

It will change next year, Melbourne, Dogs and Sydney would play GWS twice, and Lions, Port and Richmond would play GC twice you would expect. Sydney gets to no problem, it's about expansion, the rest have "won" the right to play them due to their ladder position and the increasing likelihood of the expansion teams being competitive.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Indeed, but Collingwood get one for what, 18 games a season on average? crows would love to play at home 18 times a year.

Adelaide get a home ground advantage 10 times a year, discounting the games against Port. Pies (for example) get a home ground advantage maybe 4-5 times a year.

 

[jenny61_99]

Adelaide get a home ground advantage 10 times a year, discounting the games against Port. Pies (for example) get a home ground advantage maybe 4-5 times a year.

I'm sorry, so how many games at the mcg - their HOME ground - do they get?

Edit: answer 14 at the mcg, where their crowd would be the larger no matter who the opposition was. 3 at ethihad. So 17 out of 23 games they don't have to travel.

First final they play in? Yep, their home ground.

 

[Rourke]

Poor thread.

Hmmm, you've been on BigFooty one day & your previous notable contribution is to declare that Freo is about to join the "Big 5". <ignore/>

 

[timmyleaps]

Hmmm, you've been on BigFooty one day & your previous notable contribution is to declare that Freo is about to join the "Big 5". <ignore/>

It is a poor thread.

It's not as though every single club didnt know the rules and this just snuck up on everyone.

Adelaide have been consistent, have won the required number of matches and have earned a home final.

That's the long and short of it.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I'm sorry, so how many games at the mcg - their HOME ground - do they get?

Home ground "Advantage". Playing Melbourne at the MCG doesn't give them a home ground ADVANTAGE, I'm sure you'd agree?

 

[Forward Press]

Hmmm, you've been on BigFooty one day & your previous notable contribution is to declare that Freo is about to join the "Big 5". <ignore/>

Poor thread.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Yeah but they constantly play other Melbourne teams at the G, negating any advantage.

The only team with a genuine home ground advantage over the course of the season because they play Melbourne teams in Geelong.

 

[MWPP]

As a fellow supporter of a non-vic side, what a horrible thread title (and by extension, thread)
Unfortunately, it has happened in the past (being stripped of home finals by playing them interstate), and not just to the crows either- huge injustice. It should never happen again.

 

[jenny61_99]

Home ground "Advantage". Playing Melbourne at the MCG doesn't give them a home ground ADVANTAGE, I'm sure you'd agree?

No I wouldn't. You telling me that there would be more Melbourne supporters at the g than Collingwood supporters?

 

[keeno 111]

The main boards on a roll today, Another s**t thread.

 

[AG]

Why Rourke should be stripped of his internet?