World Cup shaving cream useful in AFL?

[JuddsABlue]

Just thinking out loud here

Could the spray used by the refs in the World Cup be useful in the AFL?

For those who haven't seen it, the refs carry a small canister like a shaving scream and they're able to spray white 'cream' on the ground to mark where the ball must be behind or where players can't go etc. it last a few minutes then disappears

It's extremely quick to apply and does a pretty perfect job

Off the top of my head, if umpires sprayed a quick line on marks when kicking for goal (instead of chopping up the turf with the boot which clearly indicates that they're looking for methods to make the mark clear, and spray is much quicker and clearer)

On top of that in can be used for clear exclusion zones when kicking from the boundary, instead of the constant arguing that goes on around those things

I'm sure there are other applications

People are usually trying to keep technologies out of the game, but I think this is a pretty good solution to a lot of annoying parts of the game that players bicker over and sometimes cost teams 50m penalties or deny a player a clear shot at goal and his protected area

What needs to be emphasized for those that haven't seen it is how quickly is applied and it's gone next time you look at that area. The can sits in a holster on the umpire

 

[Sttew]

Just thinking out loud here

Could the spray used by the refs in the World Cup be useful in the AFL?

Yes, if Geelong midfielders had been equipped with the old shaving cream last night they could have sprayed cream in Ablett's eyes, or Bennell's.

 

[rdhopkins2]

I definitely agree that the AFL should look in to this.

 

[Gods_Son23]

could see it coming in in the future. I've liked it in the WC.

 

[Trent85]

JuddsABlue The AFL have basically said yeah nah....

It’s called 9:15 Fairplay, the 9:15 referring to the metric conversion of 10 yards.
According to LiveScience: “It’s a mixture of butane, isobutane and propane gas; a foaming agent; water and other chemicals. When it leaves the can, the gas depressurises and expands, creating small, water-covered droplets on the field. The butane mixture later evaporates, leaving only water and surfactant residue behind.” Laying down the law one minute, it’s gone the next.

The AFL? Foam the marks in range of the sticks? “We hadn’t considered it at all because there’s anywhere from 20-30 set shots per game at goal,” AFL spokesman Patrick Keane said yesterday. “And as a player has the right to play on whenever he wishes, it adds another process for the umpire when his primary consideration has to be on the ball and the player and what the player is doing.
“If he lines up to take a set shot, and doesn’t play on, the umpire defines the mark for the player already.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...ke-its-mark-here/story-fn63e0vj-1226961795670#

 

[Ants]

I think it would be useful in some circumstances.

 

[master bate]

Can't see why it shouldn't be used for marking the mark. Quick, easy, simple, cheap. Get the umps to do it very very quickly is the key. Pretty much in the same amount of time it takes to set the mark currently.

I'd trial it in the NAB cup next year.

 

[Vigawla]

If the ump can get to the mark quickly and apply it, I don't see why not. They already spend a lot of time standing over the mark with a hand pointing down at the mark.
Kicking for goal, the man standing the mark and the kicker know exactly where the mark is. Step one mm over that line and it's 50metres.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Kicking for goal in the forward line, definitely - could stop defenders creeping over the mark, also can be used to draw out the area where players are allowed to stand (the 5m) when there is a possibility to play on from a tight angled shot on the boundary

Could also do a line so Buddy and others can't use their"arc"

 

[Ari]

Nah I don't like it. It's only used a handful of times during a soccer match. If it was used for most set shots in AFL it would be 15 to 20 times a match at minimum. That's pretty ugly and more stoppages than we need in the game.

Maybe they could only use it for the big moments or the ones where they think it's needed, but then it's another one that the umpires need to decide on... and what if they decide wrong?

I don't see it as a problem. Players know where the mark is, and if they jump over it then it's a 50m free kick. If we use this stuff then it may well massively reduce 50m free kicks, which is actually a bad thing.

 

[Bulldocker]

Don't reckon it'll ever happen. Though, wouldn't have to be a "line" on the mark as such. Umpire just spots the point of the mark - only for set shots and only when he's already called time-off to set the angle. A quick squirt will give them the ability to see the mark being cribbed and also clearly when the kicker has run off his line.

 

[Billy ray]

As if the afl would ever add anything from wog ball (as I'm sure they refer to it in the upper echelons of afl house.)
Personally I think it should be used whenever someone is lining up for goals. there is already 15 to 30 seconds being taken in these instances so it wouldn't make any difference to time, but would help with making sure rules a followed consistenly for all players on all teams. Boundary shots on goals and the arc etc as pointed out above would also be ideal...
But will never happen...

If afl had a green and blue team play each other, eg nigeria v france, they would let them play, but FIFA says no, blue team wear white so there is light and dark. FIFA get jumper clashes correct, afl do not. And refuse to acknowledge there is a problem. They put the a in amateur in afl.....

 

[legend166]

I've thought this exact thing. Seems like a no brainer to me.

 

[The Swert]

By the time the umpire has made sure the defender is in the correct spot and drawn a line on the grass, the guy would've played on and kicked a goal already.

Can you imagine Lance Franklin or Stevie J waiting patiently for a line to be drawn?

 

[Slax]

AFL is the other sport that would benefit massively from this. Fans would like it, forwards would love it as they no longer need to mark teh ground or ask the umpire where the mark is, has benefit for juniors so they can see how far behind the mark top players really kick easily and stops mark creaping which has been happening more and more recently, only people against it will be defenders, but stuff them.

 

[JuddsABlue]

By the time the umpire has made sure the defender is in the correct spot and drawn a line on the grass, the guy would've played on and kicked a goal already.

Can you imagine Lance Franklin or Stevie J waiting patiently for a line to be drawn?

it wouldnt work like this

firstly the spray is extremely instant, its applied as fast it takes the umpire to wave his hand across the ground, there is no waiting. When the player marks the ball in range, he either calmly walks back to prepare for a set shot, in this instance the umpire would apply the spray, if he plays on while doing so then its just play on, the player doesnt need to wait. If the player is looking to play on in an awkward distance, obviously the umpire wouldnt apply the spray

secondly, the umpires often mark the mark with their foot, or stand at the mark with their hand pointed down while the forward is setting up, and forwards are often left there pointing and arguing the mark with the umpire

all of this can be removed with the use of the spray, it will be quicker and will be extremely accurate for both defender and forward

 

[master bate]

By the time the umpire has made sure the defender is in the correct spot and drawn a line on the grass, the guy would've played on and kicked a goal already.

Can you imagine Lance Franklin or Stevie J waiting patiently for a line to be drawn?

Similarly though you could use the shaving cream to paint the Mona Lisa in the time Matty Lloyd use to take the shot.

It all comes down to how quickly the umpires can get it down v the benefits of an accurately and clearly demonstrated mark instead of the current hacking at the turf with a boot or the umpire just drawing a bit of an imaginary line.

Has to be trialled in the NAB Challenge, just for something novel and interesting like the supergoals.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Similarly though you could use the shaving cream to paint the Mona Lisa in the time Matty Lloyd use to take the shot.

It all comes down to how quickly the umpires can get it down v the benefits of an accurately and clearly demonstrated mark instead of the current hacking at the turf with a boot or the umpire just drawing a bit of an imaginary line.

Has to be trialled in the NAB Challenge, just for something novel and interesting like the supergoals.

Fev's set shots were longer. Just because of the grass thing everyone would talk about Lloyd.