Rumour Would you do this deal?

[Cleric]

A Melb based workmate was at the game last night, a guest of AFC. Hes a pies supporter tho. Anyhow, he rang me this morning with some stuff he heard. Apparently Ben Kennedy is homesick and wants out the end of this year, wants to be traded to us. There was some talk that Ben will be traded to us for Lyons. They have a number of Ben type players like Blair etc, but lack inside clearance players. We lack Kennedy type players but have alot of insides. Lyons didnt want to go to Melb last year but is open to the pies.
Would you support this trade? I think I would just because Lyons deserves a real crack with a team that has a need and might value him.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

From what I saw last night rather trade for Broomhead

 

[Wood_Duck]

A Melb based workmate was at the game last night, a guest of AFC. Hes a pies supporter tho. Anyhow, he rang me this morning with some stuff he heard. Apparently Ben Kennedy is homesick and wants out the end of this year, wants to be traded to us. There was some talk that Ben will be traded to us for Lyons. They have a number of Ben type players like Blair etc, but lack inside clearance players. We lack Kennedy type players but have alot of insides. Lyons didnt want to go to Melb last year but is open to the pies.
Would you support this trade? I think I would just because Lyons deserves a real crack with a team that has a need and might value him.

In a heartbeat.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

I would've thought it would be Lyons + something. A straight swap I would get the paperwork done before they change their mind...

 

[PykeDream]

Frankly, Lyons would be perfect fit for Collingwood, and Kennedy a great fit for us.

But yeah, if they'd like to throw in Broomhead, that would be great too

 

[DraughtPick]

A Melb based workmate was at the game last night, a guest of AFC. Hes a pies supporter tho. Anyhow, he rang me this morning with some stuff he heard. Apparently Ben Kennedy is homesick and wants out the end of this year, wants to be traded to us. There was some talk that Ben will be traded to us for Lyons. They have a number of Ben type players like Blair etc, but lack inside clearance players. We lack Kennedy type players but have alot of insides. Lyons didnt want to go to Melb last year but is open to the pies.
Would you support this trade? I think I would just because Lyons deserves a real crack with a team that has a need and might value him.

Lyons (22, 184cm, 82kg) V Kennedy (20, 175cm, 76kg) - would like to keep Jarryd if he's not keen to go back to Vic. Kennedy although a first rounder is undersized for midfield and Lyons deserves a better run as a consistent AFL mid.

If he's THAT keen to come back, send Smack over in exchange!

 

[Cleric]

I dont know about Broomhead, but hes a PAPer through and through from what I understand.

 

[Archie87]

I'm a big Lyons fan but I would do this trade. Bucks doesn't seem to be a big fan of Kennedy given he's sub all the time. The bloke has elite footskills and is quick. He's exactly what we need. However, apparently he's besties with Grundy and with all the South Aussies there, that might be keep him there. Not to mention getting to play at the MCG most weeks, often during the best time slots in front of good crowds.

Also, BK was on FiveAA the other day and sounded reasonably happy at Collingwood and said his new contract would get sorted pretty soon. Although, we've all heard that line before from the likes of Gunston, Davis, Tippett, etc though!

 

[AFC979810]

Where can I sign? Lyons in a straight swap for Kennedy would be an absolute steal.

We would surely have to throw in a draft pick or another fringe player though?

 

[Cleric]

Melb offered us the same value pick for Lyons as we got for Vince.

 

[spenze]

Can't see the deal being that easy but yes, we need a player like Kennedy

 

[mattymac]

"Start the car!"

Actually seems spot on to me. Both fringe players kept out of their sides by an abundance of incumbents in their position. You'd like to think Sando and Bucks being besties could help each other out

 

[King Elvis]

I'd consider it - but I'd like to see Lyons play a month of solid footy, in the middle, without being the sub, before we trade him away.

I don't know if you guys realise, but I clearly rate him; I think we'll regret it if we trade him - but Kennedy would be a realistic trade for him.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Melb offered us the same value pick for Lyons as we got for Vince.

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[TheLeftFist8]

If Lyons got a shot in his natural position, I'd bet the gap between output of these 2 would be negligible.

Lyons will win more possessions, constructive clearances, start chains of play whereas Kennedy will get less possessions but hopefully have some hurt factor at the end of it.

We undervalue Lyons simply because there is a lot of inside mids established in the team and his one major flaw (leg speed) is the same flaw of many of our guys so it's hard to put he, M Crouch, Grigg in the team despite being more talented than some incumbents simply because of pace.

 

[Cleric]

Polec says hi.

 

[The Karma Bus]

They would never let a player leave after his first year because of home-sickness. Even if he runs to the end of his contract next year, they'd still get something for him in a trade because there's no way we'd have first pick in the PSD and he'd need to slide past at least 6-7 clubs before we could grab him.

They'd back themselves to turn it around and re-sign him next year.

To be honest, you hear this about every highly rated SA draftee interstate, and they inevitably end up playing their careers out at the club that drafted them.

This is his 2nd year..

 

[Cleric]

Theres alot of smoke and mirrors with trades and trade rumours. Often times managers put rumors out there to get a reaction or put a players team on notice. So it wouldnt be crazy yo think if Bens not coming home he may well be putting the pies on notice, both from a money point of view and a get a game point of view.
If it happened i would be happy both clubs could get a win from it.

 

[Sir Vlado]

Kennedy missed a gettable shot at goal against us last night, didn't he? That's confirmation enough.

 

[ltdamn]

This is his 2nd year..

Good point then. Carry on.

 

[spenze]

Would think with Kennedy, Cameron, Smith, Mookay,Hendo and Danger in the side, we'd have some decent leg speed

 

[Allefgib]

What's Kenedy like with defensive pressure?

 

[Deaneus!]

I think Lyons is a gun and want him to stay but realistically, yes I'd swap them.

 

[King Elvis]

I think Lyons is a gun and want him to stay but realistically, yes I'd swap them.

Thinking about it more, really, I want us to keep Lyons, and I think we'll regret it if we trade him... But it's irrelevant if we aren't going to actually play him.

So we may as well trade him.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

YES!