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Super Mega Didak Trade Thread - all hypothetical dealings here
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Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
Dazman they are terrible proposed trades.
That is highway robbery.
Salopek isn't worth Didak's right boot shoelace.
Knights is like many others on our list- he simply cannot kick. He doesn't possess 10% of Didak's ability. He is worth a 3rd rounder on his own.
Why are people undermining Didak's value?
Lets have some perspective people. Didak will NOT be going anywhere unless there is a suitable trade on the table.
Dazman they are terrible proposed trades.
That is highway robbery.
Salopek isn't worth Didak's right boot shoelace.
Knights is like many others on our list- he simply cannot kick. He doesn't possess 10% of Didak's ability. He is worth a 3rd rounder on his own.
Why are people undermining Didak's value?
Lets have some perspective people. Didak will NOT be going anywhere unless there is a suitable trade on the table.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
I posted yesterday the Didak and Goldsack for Kerr but now I have doubts, WCE are trying to clean up their image and Didak has shown that when he is free from restrictions he takes full advantage.
I could see him going to Swans, Brisbane or either of the SA teams, though I am not sure what they will offer.
I posted yesterday the Didak and Goldsack for Kerr but now I have doubts, WCE are trying to clean up their image and Didak has shown that when he is free from restrictions he takes full advantage.
I could see him going to Swans, Brisbane or either of the SA teams, though I am not sure what they will offer.
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Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
What would Didak do if he wasn't playing football?
Seriously, think about it???
What would Didak do if he wasn't playing football?
Seriously, think about it???
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
Problem with going the 2nd Rnd + Didak option is that its after ours. We have a few Rookies who will most likely be upgraded this year (Davis, Wilkes, possibly Wilson), meaning its doubtful we'll use anything after our first 3 picks, which are all before your second rounder. So it becomes somewhat valueless to us.
Would a sweetened Didak + 1st Rnd for Kerr + PP + 3rd Rnd (35/36 - no loss to us, I very much doubt we'll use it) get the job done do you think?
I actually agree with you. I think this talk on both sides (Didak and Kerr) is just that. All talk. Mind you, there is a LOT of smoke hanging Kerr atm....
Problem with going the 2nd Rnd + Didak option is that its after ours. We have a few Rookies who will most likely be upgraded this year (Davis, Wilkes, possibly Wilson), meaning its doubtful we'll use anything after our first 3 picks, which are all before your second rounder. So it becomes somewhat valueless to us.
Would a sweetened Didak + 1st Rnd for Kerr + PP + 3rd Rnd (35/36 - no loss to us, I very much doubt we'll use it) get the job done do you think?
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
Not sure if Kerr's an alcoholic but he's has had just as many grog problems as Didak. He's hung out with plenty of gangland hitmen - Kuzon ring a bell?
And does fraudulent forging of prescriptions qualify as pathological lying? And hasnt he had his problems this year as well - eg a number of striking charges?
Didak and Kerr are two peas in pod. Deep down both are likeable blokes and on field they are both stars of the game. A straight swap - or near to - would be a fair trade if both clubs were prepared to take on the risk.
Not sure if Kerr's an alcoholic but he's has had just as many grog problems as Didak. He's hung out with plenty of gangland hitmen - Kuzon ring a bell?
And does fraudulent forging of prescriptions qualify as pathological lying? And hasnt he had his problems this year as well - eg a number of striking charges?
Didak and Kerr are two peas in pod. Deep down both are likeable blokes and on field they are both stars of the game. A straight swap - or near to - would be a fair trade if both clubs were prepared to take on the risk.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
The trade I suggested above means that you guys get want you really want, Kerr, and we get what we really want, your first rounder. Didak is the sweetener to solve the FP problems that have dogged us for years.
Thats the issue. We have a WHOLE lot more to lose by taking on the risk than you do. If we're arguing that it should be a straight swap trade, then surely WC would have to say "better the devil we know..."
The trade I suggested above means that you guys get want you really want, Kerr, and we get what we really want, your first rounder. Didak is the sweetener to solve the FP problems that have dogged us for years.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
Fair point.
Because of the massive publicity surrounding the Cousins/Gardiner/Kerr/Fletcher/Judd/Chick etc etc debacle, I probably agree that West Coast would be less inclined to take a risk on somebody of dubious character. Collingwood's reputation, shattered as it is, is nowhere near as bad as the Eagles, and we are not under the direct glare of the AFL as the Eagles are. Therefore we have a bit more room than you guys for a bad egg.
Fair point.
Because of the massive publicity surrounding the Cousins/Gardiner/Kerr/Fletcher/Judd/Chick etc etc debacle, I probably agree that West Coast would be less inclined to take a risk on somebody of dubious character. Collingwood's reputation, shattered as it is, is nowhere near as bad as the Eagles, and we are not under the direct glare of the AFL as the Eagles are. Therefore we have a bit more room than you guys for a bad egg.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
You could modify it like this:
Didak > Port
Port 1st Rnd > WCE
WCE PP > Port
WC 2nd Rnd > Port
WCE 3rd Rnd > Collingwood
C'Wood 2nd Round > WCE
Port 3rd Rnd > WCE
Port get Didak, Pick 18, Pick 20
Eagles get Pick 3/4, Pick 26/27/28, Pick 37/38
Collingwood get Kerr, Pick 36
Port lose Pick 4, Pick 37/38
Eagles lose Kerr, Pick 18, Pick 20, Pick 36
Collingwood lose Didak, Pick 26/27/28
Hows that? Looks reasonably even to me?
You could modify it like this:
Didak > Port
Port 1st Rnd > WCE
WCE PP > Port
WC 2nd Rnd > Port
WCE 3rd Rnd > Collingwood
C'Wood 2nd Round > WCE
Port 3rd Rnd > WCE
Port get Didak, Pick 18, Pick 20
Eagles get Pick 3/4, Pick 26/27/28, Pick 37/38
Collingwood get Kerr, Pick 36
Port lose Pick 4, Pick 37/38
Eagles lose Kerr, Pick 18, Pick 20, Pick 36
Collingwood lose Didak, Pick 26/27/28
Hows that? Looks reasonably even to me?
Ole Gill
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Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
It's not bad, but I'm not convinced that Port will part with pick 4 for Didak in the current climate...
If the Pies can end up with Kerr and keep your first pick, you will have made out like bandits.....
It's not bad, but I'm not convinced that Port will part with pick 4 for Didak in the current climate...
If the Pies can end up with Kerr and keep your first pick, you will have made out like bandits.....
Ole Gill
Team Captain
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
I looked at this and thought Didak and pick 8, for Kerr and pick 4 .... wtf? then I realised the PP are at bottom of first round now.
I looked at this and thought Didak and pick 8, for Kerr and pick 4 .... wtf? then I realised the PP are at bottom of first round now.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
Everyone,must realize,that Didak will not, i repeat will not be traded for less than a very high first round pick plus a player or a top player plus a second round pick mimimun.
I think alot of people forget that,the club can do what they want he is under contract and didak has to agree to the Trade.Otherwise he stays with restrictive clauses in his contract next year.
Collingwood are not under pressure to get rid of the guy,at the moment eddie's ego is hurt but believe me once the olympics start and the media hype has ceased,many things can change.
If trade time arrives and the pies get a great deal,then they'll trade if not he stays.
We keep talking up the draft but really there are only 3 standouts,rich,natanui and watts the rest well we don't know.
Look at the superdraft a few years ago,players like gumbleton and even reid to a degree who were touted top 8 can't stay on the park.Gumbleton who has a lot of potential can't stay on the park,and reid is injured and can't kick.Only selwood and gibbs to a lesser degree are showing their worth.So its a lottery ,some work out and many don't.
I wouldn't get too over excited with draft.
Everyone,must realize,that Didak will not, i repeat will not be traded for less than a very high first round pick plus a player or a top player plus a second round pick mimimun.
I think alot of people forget that,the club can do what they want he is under contract and didak has to agree to the Trade.Otherwise he stays with restrictive clauses in his contract next year.
Collingwood are not under pressure to get rid of the guy,at the moment eddie's ego is hurt but believe me once the olympics start and the media hype has ceased,many things can change.
If trade time arrives and the pies get a great deal,then they'll trade if not he stays.
We keep talking up the draft but really there are only 3 standouts,rich,natanui and watts the rest well we don't know.
Look at the superdraft a few years ago,players like gumbleton and even reid to a degree who were touted top 8 can't stay on the park.Gumbleton who has a lot of potential can't stay on the park,and reid is injured and can't kick.Only selwood and gibbs to a lesser degree are showing their worth.So its a lottery ,some work out and many don't.
I wouldn't get too over excited with draft.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
I'm not convinced either. Might have to be the PP & Pick 20.
Given Kerr is contracted, I cant see the Eagles agreeing to any trade for him that doesnt involve us getting a Top 10 pick, short of us getting Jono Brown or Lance Franklin.
I'm not convinced either. Might have to be the PP & Pick 20.
Re: OR do we go for 2 GUN draftees
If we can get them both then we'd be nuts not to go after them.
Dids and Heath for JB and DK!
If we can get them both then we'd be nuts not to go after them.
Dids and Heath for JB and DK!
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Re: OR do we go for 2 GUN draftees
Not Brown. Go for Kerr but keep one of the first round draft picks.
If we trade Didak, best to do a 3-way deal so we can on trade a first round pick we gain for him and that way we can keep a first rounder too.
I would be bitterly disappointed if the club trades Didak.
Not Brown. Go for Kerr but keep one of the first round draft picks.
If we trade Didak, best to do a 3-way deal so we can on trade a first round pick we gain for him and that way we can keep a first rounder too.
I would be bitterly disappointed if the club trades Didak.
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Re: OR do we go for 2 GUN draftees
Especially for someone with a much worse history of stuffing up!
Especially for someone with a much worse history of stuffing up!
Re: OR do we go for 2 GUN draftees
Forget Brown, he is very unlikely to move, he cost a fortune, he can’t play out a season and we have forwards. Brown is an outstanding player and have a lot of impact when he’s fit but there are too many ifs. Hopefully we’ll get to see one ifs the if on Saturday with a Chris Dawes debut.
Kerr is another matter. We desperately need a player like him in our midfield. At the expense of Didak I doubt we’d make much ground to be honest but at least we would be big losers as would be likely with another trade. Whether we trade Didak (I’m betting we do) I’d like to targett Kerr.
If we can’t land Kerr and Didak is firmly on the market I’d go for Ports first rounder. No arsing around, a take it or leave it offer with a days think music while we continue to talk to others. At the end of the week, if we can’t get pick 5 or better or Kerr (even if have to give p something else) or equivalent we should keep Didak. We just don’t operate well enough to be able to give up one of our best few players for a low return.
Fraser, Rusling and Maxwell should be traded in order to upgrade our picks and a few struggling to get a game should be culled. Didak is one of the few really good players we have drafted under MM.
Forget Brown, he is very unlikely to move, he cost a fortune, he can’t play out a season and we have forwards. Brown is an outstanding player and have a lot of impact when he’s fit but there are too many ifs. Hopefully we’ll get to see one ifs the if on Saturday with a Chris Dawes debut.
Kerr is another matter. We desperately need a player like him in our midfield. At the expense of Didak I doubt we’d make much ground to be honest but at least we would be big losers as would be likely with another trade. Whether we trade Didak (I’m betting we do) I’d like to targett Kerr.
If we can’t land Kerr and Didak is firmly on the market I’d go for Ports first rounder. No arsing around, a take it or leave it offer with a days think music while we continue to talk to others. At the end of the week, if we can’t get pick 5 or better or Kerr (even if have to give p something else) or equivalent we should keep Didak. We just don’t operate well enough to be able to give up one of our best few players for a low return.
Fraser, Rusling and Maxwell should be traded in order to upgrade our picks and a few struggling to get a game should be culled. Didak is one of the few really good players we have drafted under MM.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
Didak is also contracted. If we dont get a good trade he'll stay.
Didak is also contracted. If we dont get a good trade he'll stay.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
History shows that, unless backed into a corner ( Mitchell White/Chris Judd) West Coast rarely trade players, they are arguably the best recruiters in the game (along with Geelong). As I posted yesterday the other thing preventing any Didak-West Coast trade is that (unfortunately) the Egirls have cleaned up their act well and truly off field. (I have a personal friend that plays for them who rekons things are 100% different to 2-3yrs ago.) and as such I dont believe they would look at him for a second. My personal opinion (worth nuthin but hey thats wot forums are for!) is that the only clubs that would SERIOUSLY go in for Didak would be Sydney (good track record with damaged goods players) Adelaide (SA boy, Crows need forwards) or Port (need players!!! coach that doesnt appear to take much sh*t.) Forget Kerr, unless it goes thru as one of those multi-club complex trades I just can't see it getting done.
History shows that, unless backed into a corner ( Mitchell White/Chris Judd) West Coast rarely trade players, they are arguably the best recruiters in the game (along with Geelong). As I posted yesterday the other thing preventing any Didak-West Coast trade is that (unfortunately) the Egirls have cleaned up their act well and truly off field. (I have a personal friend that plays for them who rekons things are 100% different to 2-3yrs ago.) and as such I dont believe they would look at him for a second. My personal opinion (worth nuthin but hey thats wot forums are for!) is that the only clubs that would SERIOUSLY go in for Didak would be Sydney (good track record with damaged goods players) Adelaide (SA boy, Crows need forwards) or Port (need players!!! coach that doesnt appear to take much sh*t.) Forget Kerr, unless it goes thru as one of those multi-club complex trades I just can't see it getting done.
Re: What would Didak be worth as trade bait?
Theres a LOT more than just three clubs that would have him. North would kill for somebody to replace the retiring Grant, Melbourne need all the help they can get and a big name to drag the punters through the door wouldnt hurt, Richmond could use another forward to assist Brown who is over 30, Brisbane with its record of recruiting out of favour players could always be in the mix, especially if Brown wants to walk home to Victoria, StKilda would kill for another forward instead of relying on Milne every week, and Essendon lack smalls/mediums in that mid age bracket. Carlton have the most one diomensional forward line in the land and could use another avenue to goal. And Freo are always up for a deal, they'll hand over Australias GDP just to buy a bag of peanuts!!!!
Theres a LOT more than just three clubs that would have him. North would kill for somebody to replace the retiring Grant, Melbourne need all the help they can get and a big name to drag the punters through the door wouldnt hurt, Richmond could use another forward to assist Brown who is over 30, Brisbane with its record of recruiting out of favour players could always be in the mix, especially if Brown wants to walk home to Victoria, StKilda would kill for another forward instead of relying on Milne every week, and Essendon lack smalls/mediums in that mid age bracket. Carlton have the most one diomensional forward line in the land and could use another avenue to goal. And Freo are always up for a deal, they'll hand over Australias GDP just to buy a bag of peanuts!!!!
