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valid point, i think some of the locals at cora lynn are a bit upset about Duiker and Giuliano strutting in and taking spots

Lol good one Leroy. For anyone who didn't realise he was being sarcastic. Duikers and Giuliano have been at Cora Lynn as long as I can remember. Ingram been there ages too, even Bradshaw, Hughsey and Christopher been there for a while too. Sheen and O'Hara in their third year at the club too. Hardly ring ins.

Next bigdukes will be claiming Mick Dillion has just blown in off the streets.
 
In 20 years time when there is no club left to have a reunion it is bad, and when players dont even remember each other cos they only played 18 games together, thats bad. No problem with recruiting but ya gotta look after the club in the long run, what happens at darnum when patto leaves? Thats could be the problem.

And, if Patto was never there, and they never recruited these players, they might have been terrible for the next 10 years, finished on the bottom all the time, and then folded cos they were hopeless. Can you please name for me the club that has gone out of existence soon after winning a flag because they recruited lots of players? I must have forgotten their name?
 

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Lol good one Leroy. For anyone who didn't realise he was being sarcastic. Duikers and Giuliano have been at Cora Lynn as long as I can remember. Ingram been there ages too, even Bradshaw, Hughsey and Christopher been there for a while too. Sheen and O'Hara in their third year at the club too. Hardly ring ins.

Next bigdukes will be claiming Mick Dillion has just blown in off the streets.

Why do you people always get on the defensive when someone makes a comment or ASKS a question? I was asking how long these guys had been at Cora Lynn, to compare with Darnum on how long there recruiting had been going on, after statements that they had recruited ALL their players in 2009! You haven't stated with one of the players that I asked of how long they had been there! You say Ingram has been there AGES, how long is that? The others have been there a while too, sorry but I don't know how long that is either. I'm not having a go at Cora Lynn, I am simply stating that these clubs have recruited over a 3 to 4 year period to get where they are. I know Bradshaw, Hughesy and Christopher were at Narre Warren at some stage. I agree they are hardly ring ins, but either is Cann, Chandler, Toporowski, Hughes, O'Hara, Weller, Bergles, Olney, Youngman, Scerri or Bayliss.
 
And, if Patto was never there, and they never recruited these players, they might have been terrible for the next 10 years, finished on the bottom all the time, and then folded cos they were hopeless. Can you please name for me the club that has gone out of existence soon after winning a flag because they recruited lots of players? I must have forgotten their name?

Look up Manangatang mate, went from bottom of ladder and won a flag. next year merged with Tolleybuc.
Nyora folded in 1953 i think, that was a premiership year, must have spent up too much and went broke.

I hope it doesnt happen at darnum, just have to be careful and not get carried away with the cash they have now. If they win a flag they have bought it, clearly, but in a way these players are good for the league, lift the standard and publicity of the league.
 
Look up Manangatang mate, went from bottom of ladder and won a flag. next year merged with Tolleybuc.
Nyora folded in 1953 i think, that was a premiership year, must have spent up too much and went broke.

I hope it doesnt happen at darnum, just have to be careful and not get carried away with the cash they have now. If they win a flag they have bought it, clearly, but in a way these players are good for the league, lift the standard and publicity of the league.

I agree. And any club that has won a premiership, that has paid at least one player has brought it too! Any club that does not pay any of their players have not brought their premiership!
 
Brought from sale?

Any one who is paying 18 players out of 21 has bought a flag!

Ok thanks Saint, now I have the official criteria of what makes a brought premiership, I am much the wiser! I can inform you that every premiership of the past 8 years in Casey Cardinia has been brought then.
 
I hope it doesnt happen at darnum, just have to be careful and not get carried away with the cash they have now. If they win a flag they have bought it, clearly, but in a way these players are good for the league, lift the standard and publicity of the league.

I have held my tongue long enough.

Leo, nothing would make you happier in this world than to see the Nilma Darnum Football Club fold. Every second post is about how and when it will happen. Nyora were a basket case in the early 2000s. How did this turn around? What's that I hear? Home grown players? Please. How quickly we forget.

You just cant stand it that another club has taken a leaf out of, not just your book, but the books of the last 15 premiership sides and had a crack at a premiership.

I want you to show me a footy club in the EDFL over the last 15 years that has not paid a player to win a flag. Big Dukes is right. We have more than half the senior team that is playing at the moment that are into their second or more years at the club. Shane Youngman has not missed a senior game of footy since he debuted in R1, 2005.

And you know what? We might not win the flag. But we have left no stone unturned in an ettempt to win one. As with 10 other clubs already in 2009, there is always next year.

We have a very good coaching panel, some excellent leaders emerging from within the club, and excellent prospects for the next 6-7 years coming through from the juniors (even thought there has been little success). The current coach has also groomed a number of players into being coaches of the future themselves.

It has been, and continues to be a learning experience for everyone at the club.
 

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I have stated plently of times i hope they dont fold but from any outsider it looks a strange situation. Did you not read I also said its good for the league to have the quality of player you guys have running around? Or you only read the parts you want.

Yes nyora paid plently of players, I have also stated that. But also about 15 of our side played juniors at the club. A lot of these were paid to get back to the club. Hardly a basket case in the early 2000's, we didnt have great sides but had good numbers and played in a lot of junior GF's, hence the premierships in 06 and 07.
 
Dont you worry yourself about whether Darnum fold or not. We were challenged in the late 90s and if there is 1 thing I know about Darnum, the committee and people off the field will not let it happen.

Patto will not let it happen. If you think he is going to walk away and let the club fold after putting his money up for the last 3 years (and I dont mean the players. Im talking about the infrastructure) then you are wrong.

His pride will not allow that. He is extremely unlikely to allow people like you say "It is all Patto's fault. He built it up and then walked away and left them all holding the bag". He wont want to be known as the bloke that killed a club. It may, of course fold in 10-20 years time but so may Nyora. We cant see that far into the future. Surely there are other clubs in this comp that you should be putting your worrying towards.

We'll be fine.
 
I know patto has dont good things and probably saved the club but when its 1 person that puts the money up thats when problems can arise. I am not worried about any club folding, just dont want to see it happen.

"Leo, nothing would make you happier in this world than to see the Nilma Darnum Football Club fold."
Also this point plugger, I would be much happier to spend 5 minutes in the sack with jennifer hawkins than see darnum fold.
 
I know patto has dont good things and probably saved the club but when its 1 person that puts the money up thats when problems can arise. I am not worried about any club folding, just dont want to see it happen.

"Leo, nothing would make you happier in this world than to see the Nilma Darnum Football Club fold."
Also this point plugger, I would be much happier to spend 5 minutes in the sack with jennifer hawkins than see darnum fold.

You may need Patto's money to get that 5 minutes
 

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I know patto has dont good things and probably saved the club but when its 1 person that puts the money up thats when problems can arise. I am not worried about any club folding, just dont want to see it happen.

"Leo, nothing would make you happier in this world than to see the Nilma Darnum Football Club fold."
Also this point plugger, I would be much happier to spend 5 minutes in the sack with jennifer hawkins than see darnum fold.

For the first time in a long time:

We Agree. Althoug h I would rather it be me..LOL
 
I think what Leo is trying to say is that he hopes it's sustainable, and from the outside, it doesn't exactly look 100% stable, due to what appears to be a complete reliance on one person's money and bought players. I know he and I have little idea of what goes on inside your club, at least not as much as you guys.

You're reading into it a resentment that isn't there. It's more of a warning.

I'd take 10 minutes with Rachel Finch. Would probably get 3 or 4 away.
 
Yeah, it's unbelievable isn't it. Most people are talking as if all these guys have only been at Darnum in 2009. They nearly had Mal Michael in November 2006, but he decided to sign a 2 year deal with Essendon, eventually going to Darnum this year. I watched there last game against Cora Lynn and they had 10 players that have been there the past few seasons being Bayliss, Cann, Toporowski, Scerri, Hughes, O'Hara, Olney, Youngman and Weller. Then there was Chandler out injured who will come back into the side, that makes 11. That's half the side so the argument of buying that side in one year is incorrect isn't it? These players were brought in 2 to 3 years ago to enable them to get competitive, once they got competitive, they built on that with the players such as Michael, (who incidentally could of had 3 years ago), Quirk, K. Martin, B. Martin, Mooney, Aurisch, Ivey, Morgan and Lacunes. I would call that a good recruiting campaign over 3 years. And who says that the above mentioned players are leaving at the end of the Patterson era! Look at any of the top 4 sides left in the competition and I'm sure you will find there is not alot of players that have been at their respective club for 4 years or more. Just off head at Cora Lynn, how long has the following players been there? Hall, Bradshaw, Duiker, O'Hara, Christopher, Dwyer, Joe Allen, Jack Allen, Ryan Davey, Giuliano, Ingram, Hughes, Sheen and Donaldson! How many of those great players have been at Cora Lynn for longer than 4 years? They were all recruited over a period of time to win a premiership, they have done that and could again. People need to look at the actual stats before saying that a particular team is buying a flag within 12 months, because after looking at the lists from Round 18, I think they are terribly wrong!

Hall-3rd year, year break to go to springy districts
Bradshaw-4th year
Duiker-played under 15's as a 10 year old
O'Hara-played under 15's, under 17's and seniors before having a crack at Garfield and Berwick
Christopher-4th year, 1st year injured
Dwyer-1st year
Joe Allen-1st year
Jack Allen-1st year
Ryan Davey-1st year
Guiliano-same as duiker
Ingram-at least 5-6 years
Hughes-4th year
Sheen-3rd year

One thing that this list doesn't tell you is that the club hasn't gone out, rang these blokes up and told them we will pay you $x amount per game, all those listed above have a family connection to the club in some way, in other words they approached Cora Lynn, I'll agree that most of this is because of Chris Toner and his Narre connection, but a little known fact is that Chris' uncle actually coached Cora Lynn years ago and is a life member of the club. Chris' uncle rang Chris and asked him to coach Cora Lynn and that is how it all started. Sure money has been spent, but certainly not the amounts people were suggesting 3 years ago.
 
Cora Lynn did recruit a lot more 3 years ago but a lot of these guys have since left. Like Ben, Dave (casey), Mitch Collins, Scott Black, Ty Esler, Abe Roder, Ben McKay (injured??), Arundale, Ben and Kane Airdrie, Wayne Robertson, Newman??

Bloody hard to keep a good side together looking at that. Guess thats one thing ppl talk about nilma plugger, if these players go will they be able to raplace them. Cora Lynn have managed it.
 

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