Western Region FL - Division Two

[DANNY OCEAN]

There is no junior leagues in the Ammo's, your info can't be to correct.

It was a parent of one of the U/18's that was talking about it, may be about the u/19's (or 3rds), must have caught the ass end of the convo.

Is there a 3rds competition in the amatures?. might be why they were upset wouldn't imagine a 17 or 18 yo kid wanting to get up at 7-8am to drive for an hour to play in eastern suburbs

 

[Uniden]

well look forward to finishing somewhere from 3rd to 5th....and then go out in str8 sets again.....

Yes the club has been guity of that in the past, however the club has worked hard over the off season to recruit different personal, and i think you will see a very different Albanvale side in 2010. I would estimate that half the side will be different which will bring a exciting new atmosphere with it.

 

[Limited]

It was a parent of one of the U/18's that was talking about it, may be about the u/19's (or 3rds), must have caught the ass end of the convo.

Is there a 3rds competition in the amatures?. might be why they were upset wouldn't imagine a 17 or 18 yo kid wanting to get up at 7-8am to drive for an hour to play in eastern suburbs

Don't know if Point Cook are fielding a Under 19's in the ammo's but if they do the 19's play Saturday afternoons in the ammo's, there goes the theory on early starts.

You sure it was Point Cook, I hear Werribee juniors are taking their 18's to the ammo's, if that's the case I think tthat they play on Saturday mornings in the ammo's.

 

[GameOver]

Doesn't necessarily mean they'd take them to the ammo's (can't as there's no juniors)... but if WRFL decided to force their juniors out, they'd then have to go to EDFL or Geelong... still travel involved... I wouldn't be happy though if I was WRFL about Point Cook going back on their word... Footy Vic should still have something to say about this

 

[GameOver]

Werribee Juniors have taken their under 18's to ammo's in the past... after they'd finished playing 18's with WRFL (so in ammo u/19's comp)... those players would've been lost to WRFL anyway as majority go to Werribee Amateurs and Werribee Centrals... not sure whether this is the same or whether it's their actual 18's side

 

[table tennis]

Maybe the WRFL should pull thier fingers out and provide a better product, instead of the ordinary poorly ran comp that invites clubs to look elsewhere to play.

Werribee Ammos will still have an 18's side in the WRFL i think. There will be one side in the u/19s ammos and one in the WRFL.

 

[GoesBangFrom50]

If Point Cook don't think that the WRFL is a good enough comp to put their senior team in then they should take their junior teams out as well.... dont let the door hit you on the way out!!

Maybe then Laverton would get back all of the kids that they have lost and be able to get a decent junior program up.

Table Tennis you know a bit about Ammos. What would the Ammos say if I went to them and asked to enter an U18 or U 19 team in for next season with no intention of moving seniors across? My gut feel is that they wouldnt have a bar of it.

 

[Limited]

If Point Cook don't think that the WRFL is a good enough comp to put their senior team in then they should take their junior teams out as well.... dont let the door hit you on the way out!!

Maybe then Laverton would get back all of the kids that they have lost and be able to get a decent junior program up.

Table Tennis you know a bit about Ammos. What would the Ammos say if I went to them and asked to enter an U18 or U 19 team in for next season with no intention of moving seniors across? My gut feel is that they wouldnt have a bar of it.

I think you will find that the Ammo's don't discriminate, Northern Bullants (VFL) have a under 18 side in the Ammo's

 

[table tennis]

If Point Cook don't think that the WRFL is a good enough comp to put their senior team in then they should take their junior teams out as well.... dont let the door hit you on the way out!!

Maybe then Laverton would get back all of the kids that they have lost and be able to get a decent junior program up.

Table Tennis you know a bit about Ammos. What would the Ammos say if I went to them and asked to enter an U18 or U 19 team in for next season with no intention of moving seniors across? My gut feel is that they wouldnt have a bar of it.

Maybe not, but who is only moving their u/18's to another comp? Point Cooks Seniors are starting there.

I think that Werribee have always been allowed to have seniors in VAFA and 18's down in the WRFL with no problems.

I would have thought that if it was good enough for one, its good enough for all.

The WRFL wouldn't want to pull the strings too far, as Point Cook is a massive growth area, and there will be plenty of kids play there in the future.

Old Westbourne, Werribee Centrals & St.Bernards all play junior sides and seniors elsewhere. Surely the WRFL will stop its stupid stubborn stance and realise that they can still have a lot of kids come through point cook, as WRFL players, and when they have a mind of thier own, they may leave to play for another local side in the comp, rather than turning the people of Point cook against them from Day 1.

Football Victoria need to take over the WRFL, from the outside looking in, they are in shambles. Why wouldnt point cook want to play ammos????

 

[pod36]

i say if it's true about wrfl telling point cook to take there jnr's out if they want to play ammo's i think good on WRFL!!!!

 

[trucka]

[quote=pod36;16233708]i say if it's true about wrfl telling point cook to take there jnr's out if they want to play ammo's i think good on WRFL!!!![/quote]

From my observation, why would anyone want to play in the WRFL when you have senior people (POD36, GBF50 etc) wanting to stop Junioirs from playing footy. Why take it our on the Juniors, I can only take a guess, but I would assume that they did not have a say on where the seniors play.

It sounds very much to me that the Senior Players and clubs in this league don't give a rats about Junior football, all they worry about is themselves. No wonder the WRFL has such a poor reputation

 

[w.weapons]

Yes the club has been guity of that in the past, however the club has worked hard over the off season to recruit different personal, and i think you will see a very different Albanvale side in 2010. I would estimate that half the side will be different which will bring a exciting new atmosphere with it.

ppppfffftttt cmon get serious.......some of your better players will still be there and they will have lasting memories of past years...and just remember good ''teams'' win granny's not half a side....a few years back you guys were struggling for coin how did you guys get all this money to pay these players cause lets face it the wouldnt come for the love of the game to a club that has been ok during the season but finals time is a different story........and then when you cant afford to pay these players sh1t hits the fan and they walk out.......interesting times ahead for the cobra's.......but never the less cant wait to knock you's off again.........

 

[table tennis]

[quote=pod36;16233708]i say if it's true about wrfl telling point cook to take there jnr's out if they want to play ammo's i think good on WRFL!!!![/quote]

From my observation, why would anyone want to play in the WRFL when you have senior people (POD36, GBF50 etc) wanting to stop Junioirs from playing footy. Why take it our on the Juniors, I can only take a guess, but I would assume that they did not have a say on where the seniors play.

It sounds very much to me that the Senior Players and clubs in this league don't give a rats about Junior football, all they worry about is themselves. No wonder the WRFL has such a poor reputation

Could not have put it better myself.

 

[kwame]

i dont think its unreasonable for the wrfl to say to the clubs whose juniors play there but seniors in a different league that if they want the juniors to be allowed to participate the senior club must also. but i can also see why they wouldnt want the senior club to play in the wrfl. maybe if the wrfl were more professionally run with a better reputation those clubs would want to play in the wrfl.

 

[pieeater12]

ppppfffftttt cmon get serious.......some of your better players will still be there and they will have lasting memories of past years...and just remember good ''teams'' win granny's not half a side....a few years back you guys were struggling for coin how did you guys get all this money to pay these players cause lets face it the wouldnt come for the love of the game to a club that has been ok during the season but finals time is a different story........and then when you cant afford to pay these players sh1t hits the fan and they walk out.......interesting times ahead for the cobra's.......but never the less cant wait to knock you's off again.........

Another option would be to go to Deer Park, pull a flag out of your arse from 4th, and then not have the balls to have a crack in Div 1.
SOFT club.!!!!

 

[STRONGBOW]

[quote=pod36;16233708]i say if it's true about wrfl telling point cook to take there jnr's out if they want to play ammo's i think good on WRFL!!!![/quote]

From my observation, why would anyone want to play in the WRFL when you have senior people (POD36, GBF50 etc) wanting to stop Junioirs from playing footy. Why take it our on the Juniors, I can only take a guess, but I would assume that they did not have a say on where the seniors play.

It sounds very much to me that the Senior Players and clubs in this league don't give a rats about Junior football, all they worry about is themselves. No wonder the WRFL has such a poor reputation

need to observe a bit more, plenty of clubs care about their juniors

 

[GoesBangFrom50]

need to observe a bit more, plenty of clubs care about their juniors

I agree. The whole issue is that people are upset that Point Cook will develope juniors in the WRFL and then provide a clear pathway to another competition. If we didnt care about juniors there wouldnt be an issue. If Point Cook wasnt around all these kkids would be playing at Laverton and more than likely stayin in the WRFL when they made it through to seniors.

 

[table tennis]

Whats saying that these kids will end up playing senior footy at Point Cook?

Half of the sides in the WRFL are made up of players who played juniors elsewhere.

its a bullsh!t argument. Half of Werribee's Juniors can be found in the GFL or WRFL. Why would Point cook be any different.

And why is there an exception for Werribee Centrals, St.Bernards, Old Westbourne & Werribee, but its off the table for Point Cook?

Double standards throughout the WRFL are the reason why most of you blokes are on here all year whinging about how poorly its ran.

No umpire strike in the VAFA this season either.

 

[cougarman]

I think people are being a bit tough on the Point Cook FC. 2010 will be their first year as a senior team. Their side will most likely be made up of young kids aged between 18 - 20 yr olds and older men looking to have a kick. It will be tough to develop and recruit if they were to start off getting flogged each week in wrfl div 2 so they chose to start in the lower grade of the ammos to establish themselves. Who's to say in a few yrs when they are settled and are running smoothly that they wont enter the wrfl. I think they have thought about it thoroughly and decided this was the best way to start off, maybe they will come into wrfl maybe not but them a fews yrs to establish their club and see what happens

 

[trucka]

I agree. The whole issue is that people are upset that Point Cook will develope juniors in the WRFL and then provide a clear pathway to another competition. If we didnt care about juniors there wouldnt be an issue. If Point Cook wasnt around all these kkids would be playing at Laverton and more than likely stayin in the WRFL when they made it through to seniors.[/quote

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Firstly, you have to ask why Laverton don't have Juniors. Maybe if they looked after the kids better, they would still have them. They wouldn't have to go to Point Cook, Old Westbourne, Altona, Willi to play.
Could Laverton cope with 14 or 15 Junior teams that I beleive Point Cook have? They certainly couldn't go to Altona, Hoppers or Willi because they cap thier Junior teams.

Secondly, I'm guessing that the Senior players at Old Westbourne, Werribee and St Bernards are not forced to stay once they come out of Juniors. If they wanted to play in the WRFL they could, they choose to play in the Ammos because they want too.

 

[choofa]

Firstly, you have to ask why Laverton don't have Juniors. Maybe if they looked after the kids better, they would still have them. They wouldn't have to go to Point Cook, Old Westbourne, Altona, Willi to play.
Could Laverton cope with 14 or 15 Junior teams that I beleive Point Cook have? They certainly couldn't go to Altona, Hoppers or Willi because they cap thier Junior teams.

Secondly, I'm guessing that the Senior players at Old Westbourne, Werribee and St Bernards are not forced to stay once they come out of Juniors. If they wanted to play in the WRFL they could, they choose to play in the Ammos because they want too.[/quote]

seems you are answering your own question, care to elaborate on how the juniors wernt looked after??

 

[trucka]

seems you are answering your own question, care to elaborate on how the juniors wernt looked after??

I can only assume (and Yes, it is an assumption) that the Senior members of the club showed more interest in themsleves than they did the Juniors. That is the only explanation I could give for Juniors leaving or not going to a club. It certainly wouldn't be because of lack of kids, Lavertoin is based in Altona Meadows which still has a lot of young people.
Maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[choofa]

I can only assume (and Yes, it is an assumption) that the Senior members of the club showed more interest in themsleves than they did the Juniors. That is the only explanation I could give for Juniors leaving or not going to a club. It certainly wouldn't be because of lack of kids, Lavertoin is based in Altona Meadows which still has a lot of young people.
Maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong.

Ill think you will find most club senior footballers will show more interest in themselves than the clubs juniors.

there certainly are quite a number of reasons for the club not having a junior body, but none of them relate to the kids not being looked after

and in saying that, plans are well under way for the commencement of an auskick program at the club in 2010

 

[trucka]

]Ill think you will find most club senior footballers will show more interest in themselves than the clubs juniors.

there certainly are quite a number of reasons for the club not having a junior body, but none of them relate to the kids not being looked after

and in saying that, plans are well under way for the commencement of an auskick program at the club in 2010

Good to hear about Auskick.

Yes you are right about seniors only worrying about themselves, that can be seen on this thread. Who else would make comments about kicking any juniors out of any league other than Seniors.

 

[choofa]

Good to hear about Auskick.

Yes you are right about seniors only worrying about themselves, that can be seen on this thread. Who else would make comments about kicking any juniors out of any league other than Seniors.

As much as i hate the wrfl, they do have a leg to stand on here, as it is a busiiness they are running, and to afford pt cook the luxuries they were given at the commmencement of the club and for pt cook to now turn around, now their feet are firmly planted on the ground and do what they have done, its a pretty low act if u ask me.