When Will Freo Win Their First Flag?

[CharlieM]

6-8 years when Hill, Mora, Suban, Mayne, Palmer, Ibbo, DeBeor are 25-28.

Problem with that is there guns like Pav, Sandilands etc will be long gone.
I think they had a window open there a few years back but it didn't go there way. I honestly couldn't a pick a year with any confidence. I haven't thought about it a lot yet but I probably wouldn't have them in my top 8 in 2010.

 

[Xtreme]

They won't win one until the entire board/administration has rotated out the door.

The will implode ala Fitzroy and will NEVER win a flag!

 

[Godzke]

People forget Freo almost made the 2006 Grand Final, that was a massive year for the club.

This isn't Bay 13 mate.

As Warney described Monty Panesar, you've played as if you've had 15 debut seasons.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Problem with that is there guns like Pav, Sandilands etc will be long gone.
I think they had a window open there a few years back but it didn't go there way. I honestly couldn't a pick a year with any confidence. I haven't thought about it a lot yet but I probably wouldn't have them in my top 8 in 2010.

I don't think that it will as much of an issue, If their mids come on like I think they will, they could potentially have 3-4 top 20 mids.

If they haven't draft replacements for Pav and Sandilands within the next 6-8 years, they should give up and fold. I think they could have one of best mids in the comp by then.

 

[estibador]

The will implode ala Fitzroy and will NEVER win a flag!

Yeah there's a lot of similarities between us and Fitzroy, what with us being stuck in an overcrowded market and only getting 5 thousand people to our games.

 

[MRryan]

This isn't Bay 13 mate.

As Warney described Monty Panesar, you've played as if you've had 15 debut seasons.

I assume you were in a very deep coma for the whole of 2006.

 

[sumavich]

Yeah there's a lot of similarities between us and Fitzroy, what with us being stuck in an overcrowded market and only getting 5 thousand people to our games.

Yeah, we is fecked unfortunately !!
Good luck to the other clubs though, they seem to be doing the right thing by their sponsors & supporters !!

 

[Durham Hawks]

an optimist would add 5 years from the time the current board and coach are removed from the club.

however i see predictions like 2015 and 2020 and think, that is very soon. sydney waited 70 years, geelong 43, melbourne, st kilda, bulldogs all still waiting. it is not stupid at all to say fremantle will never win the AFL premiership.

 

[manboob]

an optimist would add 5 years from the time the current board and coach are removed from the club.

however i see predictions like 2015 and 2020 and think, that is very soon. sydney waited 70 years, geelong 43, melbourne, st kilda, bulldogs all still waiting. it is not stupid at all to say fremantle will never win the AFL premiership.

Agreed would probably add another 5 years to that optimistic 5 given the GC and GWS entry into the competition. The most important element being when the current board and coach are removed from the club.

 

[Docker Clint]

quite a few years. once they stop recruiting the reject has beens from other clubs. they might start becoming a contender

Welcome to a few years ago.

 

[Docker Clint]

Problem with that is there guns like Pav, Sandilands etc will be long gone.

That's a non issue. Apparently Adelaide couldn't win in 1997 with theie experience players gone and their gun full forward injured.

 

[Docker Clint]

This isn't Bay 13 mate.

As Warney described Monty Panesar, you've played as if you've had 15 debut seasons.

I see far more Bay 13 worthy comments in this thread than the fact that Freo made the prelim in 2006. How can you deny it?

The original question is a stupid one, if we knew the answer then we could mortgage the house and send the cash off to Centrebet. When are Collingwood going to win their next, how about St Kilda?

IF Freo are going to win one in the next decade it will be in 2-5 years time. That's when the window will be and the current recruiting program will pay it's dividend with the younger playing group starting to mature.

 

[pacemaker]

It has got me scratching my head as we speak.

What suggests 2015?

Fremantle should maybe sue the AFL for not getting the draft picks GC17 are getting and this has caused their general shitness over 15 years

 

[Lach72]

Agreed would probably add another 5 years to that optimistic 5 given the GC and GWS entry into the competition. The most important element being when the current board and coach are removed from the club.

Mark thompson 2000-2006...should've sacked him

 

[Godzke]

Wow. I don't believe my eyes. Dockers actually won their last 8 games that year to finish 3rd. Why the hell don't I remember this at all?? I swear they played only one final and that was against Essendon at home and lost. I'm actually wondering why I have absolutely no recollection of this at all.

Apologies dockers fans.

ps: Kind of amazing you won your last 8 and only had a percentage of 109 or something. Anyway, carry on.

fwiw, not much considering I've made a fool of myself, I don't see Dockers playing finals till 2011-12 and maybe a premiership threat 2013 onwards.

fk. i'm scratching my head for all recollection of finals games, which is reasonably good, and still I can't find anything with Freo in there.

 

[CAS79]

In what year does everyone think they will win their first flag? This is a serious question and i dont want posts like never or 2085 coz thats just silly. I personally think 2015.

Perhaps than another question would be do you see Freo winning a flag in this time period and naming one.

Right now there playing a bunch of talanted kids who from time to time look good. But if it were all about kids on talent coming good Richmond would have won a bundle over the last 20 years.

They also manage to get thrashed regularly as well and to compete with the bigger clubs they rely more heavily on one player than any other team in the competition in Pavlich.

Add the question marks over the stabilty of the coaches job and issues with the board and its a mixed bag as to what this cycle could bring.

Sure their on a rebuild end of their cycle right now but so are the other club from the West who appear to me at least to be rebuilding stronger.

Im tipping not until at least 2018 but TBH probably longer. No doubt Gravy and Lach72 will be bookmarking this to shove it up me but still.

 

[MRryan]

Wow. I don't believe my eyes. Dockers actually won their last 8 games that year to finish 3rd. Why the hell don't I remember this at all?? I swear they played only one final and that was against Essendon at home and lost. I'm actually wondering why I have absolutely no recollection of this at all.

Apologies dockers fans.

ps: Kind of amazing you won your last 8 and only had a percentage of 109 or something. Anyway, carry on.

fwiw, not much considering I've made a fool of myself, I don't see Dockers playing finals till 2011-12 and maybe a premiership threat 2013 onwards.

fk. i'm scratching my head for all recollection of finals games, which is reasonably good, and still I can't find anything with Freo in there.

Perhaps this will jog your memory:

Read about it HERE

Watch Some of it HERE:
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Bask in the massive viewing figures here:
TV ratings AFL Prelimenary Final Sydney V Fremantle: AFL PRELIM. FINAL SYDNEY V FREMANTLE Ten 1,659,000 S- 339,000 M- 531,000 B- 74,000
A- 259,000 P-456,000

 

[Lach72]

I look at kids like Palmer, Suban and Hill, Mayne, Morabito, Ballantyne and Clarke, Broughton, even Pearce and De Boer.

I haven't been this excited over players we have brought in since Pavlich and Haselby...for only the second time in our history we seem to have drafted a bunch of kids with talent and application.

You might say you've heard it all before, but let's look at it realistically...
I mean 2006 we made a preliminary with Sean McManus in the team...and Troy Cook...I mean I love G and D as much as the next bloke, but when I watch Suban bust a few tackles and then spear a 40m pass, or Hill disappear in a puff of smoke, pick the ball up with one hand and kick a goal from 50m, it gives a little hint that it just may work out this time...

 

[manboob]

Mark thompson 2000-2006...should've sacked him

 

[cougar000]

When they statr there own 1 team comp!

 

[CAS79]

I look at kids like Palmer, Suban and Hill, Mayne, Morabito, Ballantyne and Clarke, Broughton, even Pearce and De Boer.

I haven't been this excited over players we have brought in since Pavlich and Haselby...for only the second time in our history we seem to have drafted a bunch of kids with talent and application.

You might say you've heard it all before, but let's look at it realistically...
I mean 2006 we made a preliminary with Sean McManus in the team...and Troy Cook...I mean I love G and D as much as the next bloke, but when I watch Suban bust a few tackles and then spear a 40m pass, or Hill disappear in a puff of smoke, pick the ball up with one hand and kick a goal from 50m, it gives a little hint that it just may work out this time...

Its not the players talent Im doubting.

It's the coaches and administration that surrounds everything. To create the culture around the club needed for the flag. Despite West Coasts problems it's not lacking with them.

At the end of this season you'll need to make a call on weather to keep Harvey or move on. If you keep him and it all comes crashing down with the coaching staff a few years after that than your further away from the flag than you've ever been despite the players. Rot can set in on the most talanted of lists and when it does you usually need to remove a fair chunk of the list no matter how good.

Frankly if Frematle are not confidant in Harvey's ability to deliver he would need to be gone. if it's a maybe, in Fremantle's case it's not good enough and Harvey must be replaced.

Good luck though.

 

[estibador]

When they statr there own 1 team comp!

I'm sure we could let Melbourne into our little comp and still win it.

After all you're the only team that's managed to lose a final to us.

 

[bluesforever]

culture will cost carlton.

before carlton

Richmond have a fail culture. I would much rather Carltons even if we do have a couple of fools in the team.

 

[SAINTS 2010 2011]

Not in the foreseeable future so how could anyone know???

Right now Saints, Cats, Dogs, Pies, Hawks, Lions and Crows are the only clubs that LOOK like winning one in next 1 2 or 3 years.

This foresight will obviously change... but i dont think anyone can predict teams in 4 years i mean shit we all thought freo carlton even richmond would be up there in 2010 because of the MANY MANY draft picks but look.. they are nowhere near it.

So you just have to wait and see because high draft picks don't mean great players - things change like Fev going to lions who wouldve thought?? So just relax and the answer is FREO?? I highly doubt they ever will Im not being funny i just dont think they will win one in the next 50 years not in my lifetime!

 

[cynical]

Freo Calendar

2010 - another mediocre year harvey gets sacked (just as they start looking good)
2011 - new coach recruits mates from old club finish close to the top 8
2012 - dockers fans get excited as they make the 8
2013 - dockers fans think this is their year (recruit old guys to have a crack at the flag) miss out on finals coach gets sacked
2014 - new coach time to rebuild