Rate my Team (Part IV)

[NoobHunter15]

Hey guys.

Goddard, Hargrave, Enright, Hodge, Ladson, Waters, Hunt
(Silvagni, Macguire)

Swan (c) Bartel, Ball, Wells, Martin, Barlow
(Jetta, Shuey)

Sandilands Hille
(Warnock, Lobbe)

Reiwoldt, ROK, Gia, Betts, Hall, Ballantyne, Mayne
(Duncan, Hitchcock)

220k remaining.

Not sold on starting Trengrove.
If i wanted to go double premium in the rucks in would be Sandi + Cox/Clarke or Jolly.... All three have questions marks over them IMO so I would rather wait and see and hope Hille can average 70 for a 60-80k price rise at least.

 

[yogibbear]

I have $11,500 left, how does my team look? Any injuries I havnt seen or big risks? Thanks

why put tippet in fwds if you're not going to put lobbe on ruck bench? Fail.

 

[Ron]

I said i wasn't going to make any changes tonight...but in the end i did.

Gray is 50/50 and i am not sure if Dangerfield will play, so i swapped those two for Tippett and Ballantyne.

It'll probably end up biting me on the arse.

 

[CrozaN]

explain please

Now you cant use the Dual Positioning option LOL!

 

[M-boy]

explain please

Basically, a big part of the appeal of Tippett is that he can act as cover for your rucks because he has dual position eligibility. To take advantage of that you need a ruck with dual eligibility (Lobbe). So now if your first choice rucks go down you can't swap Tippett into the rucks because you don't have Lobbe. If you get Lobbe and Kreuzer or Hille go down, you can swap Tippett for Lobbe, stick Lobbe on your forwards bench and play Tippett and your remaining fit first choice ruck.

If you've selected Tippett on his own merits and think he'll have a very good season, that's fair enough. But with Hille and Kreuzer in the rucks there's a good chance you'll have to use a trade there. If you can find the extra $5,200 you need to upgrade Prato to Lobbe you might save yourself that trade. I suggest a downgrade of Rockliff, but there are loads of other ways to find $5,200.

 

[jamzee]

explain please

I understand having Lobbe, but am i the only one that thinks its better not to have him, think it through, if hille gets injured, you'd just trade him anyway because he would be a keeper, hence no use for lobbe and tippet anyway???
Plus your not just gonna keep hille on the bench with his cash sitting there???

 

[yogibbear]

I understand having Lobbe, but am i the only one that thinks its better not to have him, think it through, if hille gets injured, you'd just trade him anyway because he would be a keeper, hence no use for lobbe and tippet anyway???
Plus your not just gonna keep hille on the bench with his cash sitting there???

Fail fail fail.

My god. No wonder 199,000 teams suck every year.

 

[jamzee]

Fail fail fail.

My god. No wonder 199,000 teams suck every year.

I came 107th last year so im trying to work this stupid waste of cash to me out
You get Hille Lobbe
And you get tippett
Hille goes down, you put Tippett on for hille basically Lobbe is now in the forward line
NOW you will be using Hilles cash because it would be 230k and you cant waste it
But Normally you would just trade Hille and use his cash anyway so there is NO difference
the only 2 cases i can see it of use, is right near the end of the year where Hilles injury would be a fluke OR if u got 3 LTI's one week which are both very rare and your year is probably gone anyway

 

[wotm8]

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

 

[jamzee]

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

It's very risky, you have alot of non-durable players like ballantyne/maybe/higgins/gray/ladson/hunt
try to find a good balance between risk and reward, though i think you have a solid foundation here

 

[roodav]

Goddard, Hodge, Mackie, Kennelly, Ladson, Hunt, Waters (Macguire, Nason)

Bartel, Gibbs, Dal Santo, Trengove, Martin, Barlow (Shuey, Bastinac)

Sandilands, Kreuzer (Lobbe, Warnock)

Reiwoldt, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Giansiracusa, Higgins, Franklin, Tippett (Gumbleton, Roberts)

Gumbie in for Franklin this week.

Think i've packed the forward line a bit at the expense of the backs and mids, mids very dependant on rookies though that is where the best choice is and defence a bit risky on the returning from injury players. Got sucked in on the Roberts front but threre really isnt many other options at that price and Gumbleton should play as my other bench player.

 

[yogibbear]

I came 107th last year so im trying to work this stupid waste of cash to me out
You get Hille Lobbe
And you get tippett
Hille goes down, you put Tippett on for hille basically Lobbe is now in the forward line
NOW you will be using Hilles cash because it would be 230k and you cant waste it
But Normally you would just trade Hille and use his cash anyway so there is NO difference
the only 2 cases i can see it of use, is right near the end of the year where Hilles injury would be a fluke OR if u got 3 LTI's one week which are both very rare and your year is probably gone anyway

Then if you disagree then why pick tippet in the fwds to begin with if you're not going to DP him?

There are better options around his price in the fwds. If you don't DP him for the extra 10-15k it costs on your 4th ruck then you might as well swap him to a Gray/Ziebell/Medhurst/Hall/Warren/Wright type player instead.

For the record: i am starting premium rucks. So i don't even care about Dp'ing anyone.

 

[Lakey91]

I understand having Lobbe, but am i the only one that thinks its better not to have him, think it through, if hille gets injured, you'd just trade him anyway because he would be a keeper, hence no use for lobbe and tippet anyway???
Plus your not just gonna keep hille on the bench with his cash sitting there???

What if hille gets injured for 1-2 weeks though, and still has plenty to rise? Still trade him?

This is where the lobbe/tippett combo would come in.

Although, Im not sure that the forward rookies are much better than the rucks!

 

[Hysteria25]

Just edited it up a bit. Whats everyones advice on the whole Tippet Lobbe idea? I thought Tippet was viable without out him figured taking Lobbe too couldnt go wrong. Do you think with Warnock as a 3rd ruckman it would be worth having the Tippet Lobbe system if I could get a better forward like Ziebell in?

 

[samwise]

What if hille gets injured for 1-2 weeks though, and still has plenty to rise? Still trade him?

This is where the lobbe/tippett combo would come in.

Although, Im not sure that the forward rookies are much better than the rucks!

It would appear Warnock would be fine to sub in for 1-2 weeks.

 

[donbooger]

Carlton would be happy with Warnocks performance it may only be 2 injuries before your 4th ruck gets a callup now. The Tippet Lobbe MPP may get a littler rarer.

 

[Invigoration]

I came 107th last year so im trying to work this stupid waste of cash to me out
You get Hille Lobbe
And you get tippett
Hille goes down, you put Tippett on for hille basically Lobbe is now in the forward line
NOW you will be using Hilles cash because it would be 230k and you cant waste it
But Normally you would just trade Hille and use his cash anyway so there is NO difference
the only 2 cases i can see it of use, is right near the end of the year where Hilles injury would be a fluke OR if u got 3 LTI's one week which are both very rare and your year is probably gone anyway

There is a few other little things that I think come in to it.
For starters, forwardline rookies are generally better than ruck rookies (although Warnock may prove to be somewhat of an exception). So in the case that Hille goes down for say 2-3 weeks and you don't want to trade him, DPing Tippett into the rucks under the assumption you will probably have better cover in your forwards may be an option. So in short, you expect a greater score from a forward rookie than a ruck rookie in the short term.

The other, and more important issue in my opinion is that Hille may not become a premium and in the event you choose to downgrade him, there should be better options to upgrade to in the forward line. It also means any money Lobbe has earned gets put to use.
So for example, Hille gets to 300k by mid season but stagnates. Tippet had played well and can legitimately be justified as a premium ruck, but maybe not an out and out premium forward (remember that a premium ruck scores well below a premium forward on the whole, i.e. top 10 of forwards v top 10 rucks). Lobbe has played a couple of games and is worth 150k.
Downgrade Hille to a 77k player (you aren't going to be using another cow here so it is obviously irrelevant), swap Tippett in and you now have just under 400k to spend on upgrading Lobbe to maybe a forward who has slipped in price (ROK was 360k halfway through last year).
Effectively Hille becomes a cash cow of sorts, although it isn't ideal.

In the event you don't have Tippett, you are forced to either straight trade Hille using whatever he is worth or you are forced to downgrade a player in another area (may not be such a bad thing). But then you only have the choice of a much more limited group of players.

The other simple thing is, if you were legitimately just wanted Hille and Tippett in their respective positions, which some do, then the logical choice is to simply have Lobbe as well for the extra security it provides in the event a lot of things go wrong.
It provides a bit of flexibility I guess.

In saying all that, I haven't gone down the DP road with Lobbe/Tippett. I personally think if you believe Tippett is going to end up in your rucks, you might as well start him there, especially with Warnock proving to be solid cover.
Not only that, but I picture a 230k forward rookie is going to be more fruitful than a 230k ruckman in Hille, which is the compromise if you switch them over.

That's just my take on it, I'm probably missing something though

 

[Superstar1]

Looks to be my final team now,

Any thoughts please guys?

Davis and Gray = . Don't mind Firrito and Lake but Firrito is going back to defense so we will see how he goes. Dennis-Lane is injured i would look elsewhere unless you think he will get straight nito the Sydney team when fit. Like the picks of Brown and Clark. Didak =

 

[Superstar1]

So many teams!!!!

Thoughts guys?

I'm not sure about duffield/shaw/shaw/harbrow in the backline, went with duffield. I'm also taking a risk with Naitanui, should I drop him for someone else? Other than that i'm fairly happy.

J.Trengove=

Ball, Boak and 3 rookies? Bold (Stupid i mean). I do like Boak and Ball individualy but together with 3 rooks, nope. Like the forward line except for Gray. Not sold on Hall completely, like Lockyer, Brown + Volt.

 

[Superstar1]

My final cut. Any thoughts?

Good team. Don't like Davis though. Silvagni or Maguire much better. Not a fan of Jetta as a rookie because don't think he score that well. But probably secure in teacm which you need whe you have 3 rooks starting. I like the picks of Raines + Boyd. Don't like Ziebell though. Good effort.

 

[Superstar1]

B - Goddard, Hargrave, Goodwin, Hodge, McDonald, Kenelly, Waters (Hunt, Silvagni)

C - Ablett, Swan, Montagna, Hill, Trengrove, Barlow (Martin, Banfield)

R - Hille, Renouf (Warnock, Grimley)

F - Riewoldt, Goodes, Harvey, Murphy, Dangerfield, Walker, Wright (Hitchcock, Duncan)

What does everyone think? I've had this team set for about a week and it won't change. Didn't have a single player starting tonight but Martin was emergency.

Like McDonald and Hargrave, not sure on Goodwin. Like the backline alot actually but for Hunt on bench. I think replace with Maguire. Great midfield. Don't like Hill though. Like the rucks, both should improve alot. I dun like trading heaps in my rucks though. Forwards: like pick of Wright but not T.Walker. Do you know somethin i don't? Banfield is interesting and could come of. Pretty nice team.

 

[Superstar1]

Just edited it up a bit. Whats everyones advice on the whole Tippet Lobbe idea? I thought Tippet was viable without out him figured taking Lobbe too couldnt go wrong. Do you think with Warnock as a 3rd ruckman it would be worth having the Tippet Lobbe system if I could get a better forward like Ziebell in?

Good team. Backs solid. Mids good, like Ball. Kreuzer and Hille = good. Actually like forwards alot. I got Waite too, great buy. Tippett pretty good. Like the pick of Nahas could be good especially if he pushes up the ground, bad last night but he will do better normally. Lecras is quite good pick too i think. Main Eagles target inside 50. Unsure of Hall but like the fact you have Rocky even though not named. I think he will play soon and do well. Bench is solid.

 

[kerplunky]

i have 100k left in the bank


goddard-enright-carrazzo-hodge-kelly-hunt-waters maguire-nason

bartel- anthony- ball- trengove-barlow-martin shuey-bastinac

ottens- hille warnock-trengove atm

riewoldt-stevey j-pavlich-o'keefe-gian-hall-medhurst peterson-roberts

thoughts?

 

[Superstar1]

Time for my team.

B - Goddard, Hargrave, Krakouer, Dempsey, Gwilt, Kennelly, Maguire (Farmer, Silvagni)

C - Swan, Montagna, Boak, Hodge, Barlow, Martin (Hartlett, Duncan)

R - Kreuzer, McEvoy (Charman, Warnock)

F - Davis, Goodes, Pavlich, Waite, Medhurst, Warren, Dangerfield (Hitchcock, Roberts)

 

[jamzee]

What if hille gets injured for 1-2 weeks though, and still has plenty to rise? Still trade him?

This is where the lobbe/tippett combo would come in.

Although, Im not sure that the forward rookies are much better than the rucks!

Hmm this is fair enough, although it almost seems as if warnock is good enough replacement for now BUT i might try and get lobbe its just gonna ruin my structure