22 point domination...

[Boris the Contradiction]

You calling Selwood a cheat would be like me saying Obrien is a cheat for shepparding the man on the mark.

No it's not, because there is no associated rule. You'd be better off comparing it to a player deliberately running backwards into someones hands to draw an in-the-back free or a player, while being tackled, deliberately throwing himself forward to draw an in-the-back call. O'Brien is doing something completely within the rules and he is not forcing someone else to break a rule....unfairly. Players shepherd in almost every onfield circumstance, what's the problem?

What Selwood does might not be cheating in the strictest sense but to me it is outside of the spirit of the game. The rule was put in place to ensure that players don't tackle others high on their body which can potentially be dangerous. I will call him a cheat and have no respect for him as long as he is trying to win games without using his undoubted ability. The guy is a star, but a worm and players from other clubs don't respect him as a foe in the way that Swan and Ablett share mutual respect.

 

[FuManchu]

No it's not, because there is no associated rule. You'd be better off comparing it to a player deliberately running backwards into someones hands to draw an in-the-back free or a player, while being tackled, deliberately throwing himself forward to draw an in-the-back call. O'Brien is doing something completely within the rules and he is not forcing someone else to break a rule....unfairly. Players shepherd in almost every onfield circumstance, what's the problem?

What Selwood does might not be cheating in the strictest sense but to me it is outside of the spirit of the game. The rule was put in place to ensure that players don't tackle others high on their body which can potentially be dangerous. I will call him a cheat and have no respect for him as long as he is trying to win games without using his undoubted ability. The guy is a star, but a worm and players from other clubs don't respect him as a foe in the way that Swan and Ablett share mutual respect.

Dermie summed it up perfectly yesterday, he said Selwood is doing the same as dropping your head to earn a free. They have legislated against diving, against staging, against a number of things where legitimate tackles are made to look bad by the actions of a player caught, ie Kevin Bartlett and his bouncing the ball when tackled.

If a legitimate tackle is landed on Selwood and his first action is to drop the body to turn it into a free instead of trying to dispose of the ball legally, then he should be penalised. It is the same as being caught and holding the ball.

The umps need to sharpen up their interpretation, because the laws already exist to adjudicate these situations the correct way. Stop being stooged by these type players.

 

[PatrickBateman]

The umps need to sharpen up their interpretation, because the laws already exist to adjudicate these situations the correct way. Stop being stooged by these type players.

Or have the coach get it through the players thick skulls to tackle him at the waist... there, problem solved. Those tears still salty?

 

[LongBomb]

Dermie summed it up perfectly yesterday, he said Selwood is doing the same as dropping your head to earn a free. They have legislated against diving, against staging, against a number of things where legitimate tackles are made to look bad by the actions of a player caught, ie Kevin Bartlett and his bouncing the ball when tackled.

Brereton has an agenda and his opinion is meaningless.

I prefer the view of Matthews, Blight etc. - Selwood earns his frees via his fearless, ruthless attack on the ball.

 

[Pie eyed]

Or have the coach get it through the players thick skulls to tackle him at the waist... there, problem solved. Those tears still salty?

Have you ever played footy?

Watch the hips, pin the arms.

You read this on another thread and decided to parrot "your" wisdom.
Equally as wrong as the other poster.

I'd love for your coach to use your logic...please.

 

[PatrickBateman]

Have you ever played footy?

Watch the hips, pin the arms.

You read this on another thread and decided to parrot "your" wisdom.
Equally as wrong as the other poster.

I'd love for your coach to use your logic...please.

Alternatively, when Selwood evades the initial tackling attempt, don't grab/pull back on his shoulder... Or beat him to the ball?

 

[Kick It 2 Me]

Geelong are where they are because they are generally consistant where as other teams are bouncing up and down they just play their style and if the opposition doesn't beat them considerably at the contest they end up winning anyway and it could of happened again just a couple goals the other way and thats it and all it would take is two turnovers so the pies have done well simple as that.

Can someone pass me the sledgehammer? I'm having difficulty getting through this wall of words.

 

[Sttew]

If Cats were to play off against Pies in the GF, lets remember that the past 8 premiers have been beaten in their last H&A encounter by the team they defeated to win the premiership. Saints def Geelong in R14 last year. Cats def Hawks in their last H&A, 2008, and Port def Cats R21, 2007.

 

[rose jam]

Or have the coach get it through the players thick skulls to tackle him at the waist... there, problem solved. Those tears still salty?

Get the blinkers off. When Selwood gets grabbed by the jumper he ducks his head into the arm to draw a free kick. He should be penalised for not disposing of the ball. He exploits a rule that makes him appear to be "hard" when it's actually a soft act. It's staging for a free instead of making the first move of disposing of the ball. It's no different to Murali being allowed to chuck. Cheat.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

Brereton has an agenda and his opinion is meaningless.

I prefer the view of Matthews, Blight etc. - Selwood earns his frees via his fearless, ruthless attack on the ball.

There is no such thing as "earning" a free kick.

You are fouled, you get a free kick, simple. A free kick has nothing to do with the person who earns it and everything to do with the person who gives it away.

I hate hearing this rubbish, that because his gutsy, he earns the cheap free kicks that he receives. Luke Ball and Lenny Hayes are just as "fearless" as your boy Selwood but their intention when being courageous is to dispose of the ball, not win the free kick. Hence, they don't get as many frees because they don't stage to receive them.

I'd laugh if you are the same people who criticise soccer as a soft sport because the players who receive minimal contact throw themselves forward to milk a foul. That is even more of a foul because at least the player was clipped. What Selwood does is receive a free-kick for a perfect tackle, he is a cheat. I might start calling him Grosso from now on.

 

[PatrickBateman]

their intention when being courageous is to dispose of the ball, not win the free kick. Hence, they don't get as many frees because they don't stage to receive them.

So Selwood conceived his evasive tacking ability style purposely in order to win free kicks??? C'mon. I don't think you truly believe that.

 

[Pie eyed]

If Cats were to play off against Pies in the GF, lets remember that the past 8 premiers have been beaten in their last H&A encounter by the team they defeated to win the premiership. Saints def Geelong in R14 last year. Cats def Hawks in their last H&A, 2008, and Port def Cats R21, 2007.

The last 8 oysters I downed on Saturday night were great, but that 9th one left a bad taste in my mouth.
Don't know what that has to with anything....either.
Probably I should post it a fair bit more though, seems to be relevant.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

So Selwood conceived his evasive tacking ability style purposely in order to win free kicks??? C'mon. I don't think you truly believe that.

No he conceived his head ducking style to achieve this. Noone's saying he isn't a good player.

It looks like it's not just Geelong players who duck their heads, you need to pull yours out of the sand.

 

[Pie eyed]

Alternatively, when Selwood evades the initial tackling attempt, don't grab/pull back on his shoulder... Or beat him to the ball?

This has what to do with your weird take on how to tackle?
My point is every players is taught from the cradle to the grave to pin the arms in a tackle. The afore mentioned arms are attached to shoulders.


Selwood ducks.
He is entitled to duck.
If I was the coach I would ensure that every time he ducked it ****en hurt, a lot. If he continues to duck then credit to him.

 

[Dawson]

If Cats were to play off against Pies in the GF, lets remember that the past 8 premiers have been beaten in their last H&A encounter by the team they defeated to win the premiership. Saints def Geelong in R14 last year. Cats def Hawks in their last H&A, 2008, and Port def Cats R21, 2007.

How many of the current players played in those teams?

The point is, its irrelevant and just another mindless statistic

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Ablett is a gun, as is Chappy.

Bartel is a bit of a squib, and Selwood can't get the ball unless the umps help him. Corey is well past it.

Ok group, but nothing special.

Hehe, where were you last year Ron?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Geelong could not have played better..

rofling here

 

[GameOver]

If Cats were to play off against Pies in the GF, lets remember that the past 8 premiers have been beaten in their last H&A encounter by the team they defeated to win the premiership. Saints def Geelong in R14 last year. Cats def Hawks in their last H&A, 2008, and Port def Cats R21, 2007.

Found this in a PDS and found it quite appropriate for your logic. Or, on the other hand, we could take it as gospel and hand the premiership cup over now.

"Past performance and awards are no indication of future performance.Your individual circumstances, needs or objectives have not been taken into account."

 

[MagpieJoel]

If Cats were to play off against Pies in the GF, lets remember that the past 8 premiers have been beaten in their last H&A encounter by the team they defeated to win the premiership. Saints def Geelong in R14 last year. Cats def Hawks in their last H&A, 2008, and Port def Cats R21, 2007.

This is fail logic. It just means that anyone can still win.

 

[Brad Goodman]

This is partially true. However you can't deny Geelong was experimenting last night. We only played about half our deck.

I'm very confident should we meet in the finals you will see the Geelong team line up and play like the one that thrashed you in last year's prelim.

So basically you believe Geelong just has to flick a switch and any game is theirs?

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

If Cats were to play off against Pies in the GF, lets remember that the past 8 premiers have been beaten in their last H&A encounter by the team they defeated to win the premiership. Saints def Geelong in R14 last year. Cats def Hawks in their last H&A, 2008, and Port def Cats R21, 2007.

As long as YOU believe that 'sure thing' superstition is guaranteed to last for ever and NOT be a pure coincidence, that's what's important.

 

[burto]

Anyone would think Collingwood lost with Selwood kicking the winning goal with the way they are sooking and carrying on. You won and your team is in good form. Relax. Keep your blood pressure low, or you might die.

 

[mysainters]

I don't buy the whole 'if you beat them in the H&A season, you won't win in the GF' myself

If Geelong meet Collingwood in the GF, it will be about that day, and that day alone.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Anyone would think Collingwood lost with Selwood kicking the winning goal with the way they are sooking and carrying on. You won and your team is in good form. Relax. Keep your blood pressure low, or you might die.

You'd like that.

 

[mysainters]

I don't think anyone actually believes that if their side loses the previous game to the side they're playing in the Grand Final they're a shoe in to win.

It's just a meaningless stat that has absolutely no bearing on anything.

Have you read this threads and others, plenty of people do, if you can believe it