Essendon 2011

[SirJimi05]

That is more of a reflection of how poor Essendon's midfield is rather than Watson's influence on the team. Do you seriously believe a Jobe Watson has more influence on his team, than say a Sandilands at Fremantle?



Jobe Watson has & will never be known as a match winner. Opposition coaches devise gameplans & systems to stop the likes of Buddy Franklin, Nick Riewoldt, Chris Judd, Jonathon Brown & the like.

If opposition coaches were hellbent on stopping Jobe Watson, they wouldn't have sent their number 1 tagger to Stanton.

Watson gets the number one tag just about every week so I'm not sure what you are on about. Next time you go to an Essendon game watch what happens off the ball.

His influence on games is underrated in my opinion. He is a matchwinner but goes unnoticed by many people because of the role he plays.

 

[TownleyTime]

Watson gets the number one tag just about every week so I'm not sure what you are on about. Next time you go to an Essendon game watch what happens off the ball.

His influence on games is underrated in my opinion. He is a matchwinner but goes unnoticed by many people because of the role he plays.

Jobe Watson is not a match winner.

Someone such as a Buddy Franklin, Jonathon Brown, Paul Chapman & Alan Didak are proven match winners. Do you seriously believe Watson can decide a match like these 4?

I've seen plenty of Watson. I also saw earlier in this thread that an Essendon supporter said Wellingham "tagged" him on Anzac Day. Tagged in a liberal sense, Wellingham was running off, setting up & kicking goals on Watson that day.

Again I ask, do you believe that Watson has more influence on Essendon than Sandilands does on Fremantle.

 

[SirJimi05]

Player X played poorly against my team so must be an ordinary player who never gets tagged. Gotta love BigFooty.

 

[DVD Player]

Jobe Watson is not a match winner.

Someone such as a Buddy Franklin, Jonathon Brown, Paul Chapman & Alan Didak are proven match winners. Do you seriously believe Watson can decide a match like these 4?

I've seen plenty of Watson. I also saw earlier in this thread that an Essendon supporter said Wellingham "tagged" him on Anzac Day. Tagged in a liberal sense, Wellingham was running off, setting up & kicking goals on Watson that day.

Again I ask, do you believe that Watson has more influence on Essendon than Sandilands does on Fremantle.

No he doesn't... But in saying that, however, as we Essendon supporters have seen multiple times, such as our game against North Melbourne this year, and our 2009 St Kilda win, Watson has single handedly won us the match. He may not have as much influence as a player such a Sandilands, or as you mentioned, Franklin, but that's not to say that he doesn't win games for Essendon.

 

[TownleyTime]

Player X played poorly against my team so must be an ordinary player who never gets tagged. Gotta love BigFooty.

Comprehension fail. You've harped on about opposition coaches being so worried about Watson's supposed match winning qualities & I've given you 1 example of this fallacy. Wellingham is not a tagger, but according to Essendon supporters, he is.

Again I ask, does Watson have more influence on Essendon than Sandilands does at Fremantle or Judd does at Carlton.

 

[Big Blow Hard]

Comprehension fail. You've harped on about opposition coaches being so worried about Watson's supposed match winning qualities & I've given you 1 example of this fallacy. Wellingham is not a tagger, but according to Essendon supporters, he is.

Again I ask, does Watson have more influence on Essendon than Sandilands does at Fremantle or Judd does at Carlton.

Just about. Judd is a freak and Sandilands is a completely different beast, but Jobe is without doubt, pivotal to us winning games. To suggest he is not is just wrong. It is reflected in the Brownlow voting.

As to our MOST important player, I would actually suggest it's David Hille as he is more critical to our structures all around the ground.

 

[theboxmike]

Jobe Watson is not a match winner.

Someone such as a Buddy Franklin, Jonathon Brown, Paul Chapman & Alan Didak are proven match winners. Do you seriously believe Watson can decide a match like these 4?

I've seen plenty of Watson. I also saw earlier in this thread that an Essendon supporter said Wellingham "tagged" him on Anzac Day. Tagged in a liberal sense, Wellingham was running off, setting up & kicking goals on Watson that day.

Again I ask, do you believe that Watson has more influence on Essendon than Sandilands does on Fremantle.

Round 20 St Kilda 2009

Yeah i would call him the match winner that day. Jobe is the kind of player who would stand up in finals IMO

 

[The Bomb]

Comprehension fail. You've harped on about opposition coaches being so worried about Watson's supposed match winning qualities & I've given you 1 example of this fallacy. Wellingham is not a tagger, but according to Essendon supporters, he is.

Again I ask, does Watson have more influence on Essendon than Sandilands does at Fremantle or Judd does at Carlton.

Swan and Didak dont even have Abletts, Judd, Sandilands, Brown, Franklins hurt factor, so no, But he is as Vital to Essendon as these players are for there respective teams, if not more important.
as our inside mids coming through are really young.

People who say Essendon have a crap list I agree with you with players like
Dyson, Lonergan, NLM, Welsh, McVeigh, Davey, Slattery, Williams ect
But
Essendon fans say it is not that bad because they look at youth and potential
like
Hurley, Ryder, Pears, Gumbleton, Carlisle, Hooker which is our young spine, and without bias you would have to agree it has a huge upside

Zaharakis, Colyer, Melksham, Howlett, Heppell, Hocking our young mids who will help out Watson Stanton and Winderlich, so we are very happy with this as a whole. We dont care if people disagree.

North Melbourne do have a better midfield then Essendon, Essendon have better Key pos players.

regarding the coaching group, The player are loving everything which has happened, they are also enjoying training more then ever before, in fact Essendon Football Club is just buzzing,
We fans see it, feel it and are very excited by it.
I dont know what the feel is around all your clubs, but trust me, I have never seen this much excitment about the future.

 

[TownleyTime]

we Essendon supporters have seen multiple times, such as our game against North Melbourne this year, and our 2009 St Kilda win, Watson has single handedly won us the match. He may not have as much influence as a player such a Sandilands, or as you mentioned, Franklin, but that's not to say that he doesn't win games for Essendon.

1 or 2 games doesn't make you a proven matchwinner. The likes of Chapman & co have done it numerous times (I'd say at least over 10 times) in H&A matches, big games & finals. Watson hasn't.

 

[Daytripper]

1 or 2 games doesn't make you a proven matchwinner. The likes of Chapman & co have done it numerous times (I'd say at least over 10 times) in H&A matches, big games & finals. Watson hasn't.

He did poll 16 Brownlow votes last year so I'd suggest he played better than in just 1 or 2 games.

 

[QuietB]

Not sure how relevent the match winner thing is. As an example I would be happy to take Lenny Hayes or Simon Black over a few so called "match winners" every day of the week.

 

[Kings Army]

Round 20 St Kilda 2009

Yeah i would call him the match winner that day. Jobe is the kind of player who would stand up in finals IMO

6 kicks 8 handballs 1 mark 0 goals. He was embarrassing in the 2009 final.

 

[DVD Player]

1 or 2 games doesn't make you a proven matchwinner. The likes of Chapman & co have done it numerous times (I'd say at least over 10 times) in H&A matches, big games & finals. Watson hasn't.

I listed those 2 games as examples, as they are the ones that first came to mind, but that doesn't necessarily mean those are the only games he dominated in. As already stated, Watson polled votes in most of Essendon's wins last year (All of 7) showing that he does have the ability to greatly contribute to any success we have had and may have in the future... So in terms of Essendon, yes, he has the ability to be a match winner.

As for being a match winner in big games, for Essendon, the North game was indeed a massive game, after losing to WC the week before, and copping large amounts of criticism and scrutiny in the weeks prior. Watson had 40 odd touches and kicked two goals in a close one... He played a captains game, stepping up and winning it for us when it really counted. He dragged a lot of pressure off the club that week through his performance alone.

I'm not saying he does it to the same degree as your Franklins and Judds... But it would be ignorant to say that he hasn't won Essendon games, and isn't a genuine match winner.

 

[yaco55]

Because Essendon's number 2 inside ball winner this season was a kid playing in his first season. Teams knew that if they could stop Watson from extracting the pill they would win. He still managed to average over 27 disposals per game.

Still waiting on you to let me know exactly what times I should be checking on that video. Let me know where I can find all the 50 metre kicks and pieces of play showing Ball's speed.

SJ

You know that in 2010 that Watson was tagged less than Stanton.

Whether that changes in 2011 is undecided.

 

[Daytripper]

SJ

You know that in 2010 that Watson was tagged less than Stanton.

Whether that changes in 2011 is undecided.

Its hard to tag inside players - much more effective to tag your outside users.

 

[yaco55]

StKilda knows the danger Watson can provide if not tagged.

Has been B.O.G 3 times in the last 4 games - Clearly B.O.G.

The game against Kangaroos mentioned earlier was a direct Head to Head between Watson and A.Swallow.

Both players were exceptional that day - Watson probably shaded Swallow on the day.

 

[cammo78]

Put Priddis at say, the Dogs, he would still be in the side, and I'm tipping, more rated.
.

Please advise who Priddis would replace out of Boyd, Cross, Cooney and Griffen. All of whom, by the way, are more effective players than Jobe Watson.

 

[The Bomb]

Please advise who Priddis would replace out of Boyd, Cross, Cooney and Griffen. All of whom, by the way, are more effective players than Jobe Watson.

Cross is not better then Priddis or Watson
Griffen would not survive without the Boyd, Watson and Priddis types of players, I think you will find Griffen is unc poss player.

Cooney for a number 1 draft pick who Sheedy said will be a champion of the game has so far not been.
Boyd a very simular type of player to Watson and Priddis. but tries to kick alot more and in so doing ranks right up there with the most skill errors.

 

[happy_punter]

If you're so smart put a number on it and name the games.

While you're at it give us a figure on your own team and who you will beat.

Will look forward to keeping track of this one.

less than 7, you can get back to me if they get to 7 ok

 

[Crow-mo]

If Adelaide were going for a matched up opponent on Watson they would have put Thompson, not a guy who does a tagging role nearly every week in Reilly. Face it, Adelaide tag Watson. As do most other teams in the league.

True on Collingwood though, I didn't see them as having a genuine tagger until Wellingham stepped into that role in 2010. He did it well too.

just stop.

 

[Crow-mo]

Hawthorn didn't finish in the 8, mate.

Geez, people on Bigfooty are clueless.

wow. you're the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Crow-mo]

Yes he was and he has never been able to kick 50 metres. Ball built his reputation on being a fearless warrior and a tackling machine. He never had great skills and was never quick.

about that list, about those links. I wouldn't trust you if said good morning, it'd be time to look out the window and see for yourself.

Ball was a good kick, and you just throwing out casual lies doesn't change it.

and in 2005 I just checked he kicked 63.5% of the time. real similar player to a guy, who can rack up a 2 kick 28 handball game.

 

[brad]

less than 7, you can get back to me if they get to 7 ok

Get back to me with how many we're going to win and against who? You're making the big statements.

I'm also waiting to hear how many games Richmond are going to win and against who?

Will you beat a Victorian side in 2011?

 

[Crow-mo]

If you're so smart put a number on it and name the games.

While you're at it give us a figure on your own team and who you will beat.

Will look forward to keeping track of this one.

if you're so confident, why don't you do the same?

 

[Crow-mo]

Watson gets the number one tag just about every week so I'm not sure what you are on about.

I've already named 3 teams that never tag him.