Mitch Clark

[Nickos66]

Have a look who kept him out of the side and it wasn't 211 or Zac it was Keplar which is hardly a great recommendation for him. He was 9th in hit outs per game which was solid and 4 goals in 7 matches which is okay but nothing to write home about. He had one great game which distorted his figures on the year.

Overall he was a solid backup guy who did perform better this year when we saw him but he hardly demanded that we forget the spud he was at Adel. He is under contract and moved back to WA for personal reasons. So he is not going to consent to a trade even if he was put up.

WRONG.

While Keps was kicking goals in the 1st halfa season he wasn't rucking, meanwhile Griffo was racking up 40 hitouts every weekend with the sharks. Kepler being in the side had nothing to do with keeping Griff on the outer.

It was purely Sandi keeping him out, Zac wasn't even playing ruck for his first few games this year, he was playing wing/on ball. Only when Sandi went down Griff was brought in and formed a tandem with Zac.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Hardly it would make sense.
He moved from Adelaide because he wanted to play footy.

The sub rule and being on the same team as Sandi means he won't get a game, and furthermore now it would appear that Zac Clarke may even be overtaking him!

It would surprise me if he moved a year after being traded but you're an idiot if you think he's happy given gametime was the reason he moved.

No it wasn't, he moved for family reasons. What sort of idiot would move to a club with Sandi as No. 1 ruck to get gametime?

 

[Alfonz]

It would be ironic if we were able to trade the compensation pick for Palmer for Carke.
I believe we preferred Clarke to Palmer but was beaten to the punch by Brisbane.
Finish up with what we wanted in the first place.

If we get Clark, trade Griffin to Richmond for a pick or possably parcel Griffen and a pick (first round) to GWS for a shot at Jaeger.

Is it Carke, Clarke or Clark?

Not sure what you are talking about when M.Clark went in 2005 and Palmer went in 2007. Although Mitch did go one spot before we took Drum, which was an inspired selection.

 

[go_the_dockers]

People understand he wants to play as a CHF, but he hasnt shown anything playing there.

Has he kicked 40 goals in a season?

So all you would be drafting is potential, defiantly not worth a first round draft pick or 500-600k which everyone is talking about.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I know it's all ifs and buts but if Clarke played chf all season injury free I find it hard to believe he would kick less than 50 goals. Hard to match up on and potentially elite in his position IMO.

 

[Lionwest]

Further more BB, playing deep forward in a struggling team certainley didnt help his cause. Would naturally expect a lot better output as the quality & quantity of the I50 entries improve.

No excuses for his performance this year as a forward but i think that's as bad as it would get. I would expect a much improved next year, be it at the lions or freo.

 

[Quigley]

WRONG.

While Keps was kicking goals in the 1st halfa season he wasn't rucking, meanwhile Griffo was racking up 40 hitouts every weekend with the sharks. Kepler being in the side had nothing to do with keeping Griff on the outer.

It was purely Sandi keeping him out, Zac wasn't even playing ruck for his first few games this year, he was playing wing/on ball. Only when Sandi went down Griff was brought in and formed a tandem with Zac.

Whilst Keplar played mostly up forward he was the backup ruck in all of those games in the first half season games. Some of them he played a reasonable amount of time in the ruck others not so much. The thing was though that he was the player who was the designated back up ruck in those games and he was the guy keeping Griffen out of the side. Freo played Griffen or Bradley and for the first half of the season they preferred what Bradley had to offer. When 211 went down they went with Griffen because he was better in the ruck but they thought as a backup Bradley was the better option nws that they were running 211 into the ground again.

So now the 4th guy (or at best third according to how you see things) on the depth chart for Freo who wants to remain in WA and failed when he was in Adel is suddenly worth more than a bag of spuds.

 

[tacopavlich]

Whilst Keplar played mostly up forward he was the backup ruck in all of those games in the first half season games. Some of them he played a reasonable amount of time in the ruck others not so much. The thing was though that he was the player who was the designated back up ruck in those games and he was the guy keeping Griffen out of the side. Freo played Griffen or Bradley and for the first half of the season they preferred what Bradley had to offer. When 211 went down they went with Griffen because he was better in the ruck but they thought as a backup Bradley was the better option nws that they were running 211 into the ground again.

So now the 4th guy (or at best third according to how you see things) on the depth chart for Freo who wants to remain in WA and failed when he was in Adel is suddenly worth more than a bag of spuds.

that was before freo knew how good he is. start of this year zac clarke wouldn't of had much currency as well. you can't ignore form, he has proven what he is capable of. in fact most of mitch's currency is his 2009 form. based on this year he isn't worth nearly as much as brissy posters claim he is.

 

[theGav56]

So now the 4th guy (or at best third according to how you see things) on the depth chart for Freo who wants to remain in WA and failed when he was in Adel is suddenly worth more than a bag of spuds.

I think most Freo posters know that Griffin is our 2nd best ruckman. But we also know that is changing rapidly, and not in Griffin's favour. If Clark comes, Griffin is not required. He will either see out his contract, or he will be traded, either way it is no big deal. His reasons for wanting to be in WA have apparently changed, and his reasons for wanting to be at another club have multiplied.

In terms of his value, it is clearly higher than what we paid for him, pick 61. A second rounder, say pick 40, in a draft lacking depth is about how I see it.

 

[Docker Dynasty]

I think most Freo posters know that Griffin is our 2nd best ruckman. But we also know that is changing rapidly, and not in Griffin's favour. If Clark comes, Griffin is not required. He will either see out his contract, or he will be traded, either way it is no big deal. His reasons for wanting to be in WA have apparently changed, and his reasons for wanting to be at another club have multiplied.

In terms of his value, it is clearly higher than what we paid for him, pick 61. A second rounder, say pick 40, in a draft lacking depth is about how I see it.

Spot on theGav.

***BTW Keplar never kept griff out of the side. pretty sure all this talk of a trade back to Adelaide started earlier in the year when Sandi first came back from injury in round 14 but re-injured himself. They dropped Griffin and kept Clarke in for that game. Kepler played that week also.

An argument can be made that Griff and Kep were playing for the same spot though but I don't hink thats correct. In round 15 when griffin came in and Kepler went out but I think Sandi out was moreso the reason for his inclusion. Haven't checked but i doubt Sandi, Griffin and Clarke never played a game together and Kepler missed out.

 

[Dom PC]

Just read a suggested trade.

Paul Duffield and freo's 1st rd pick for M.Clark ?

What do Freo people think of this ?

 

[Gibbo_88]

Just read a suggested trade.

Paul Duffield and freo's 1st rd pick for M.Clark ?

What do Freo people think of this ?

Not a fan of duffield. We shouldn't be adding players with average skill to our side when we already have a few.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I dont think he is worth our first round draft pick, let alone 1st round pick + Duffield

 

[Dom PC]

I dont think he is worth our first round draft pick, let alone 1st round pick + Duffield

Oh yeh, Cool...

 

[cotter101]

I dont think he is worth our first round draft pick, let alone 1st round pick + Duffield

Well I dont think Clarke is worth a first round he is worth maybe a 3rd or 4th

 

[raffrox]

Looks like this is a mature conversation.

 

[Balony_pony16]

Well it look like the supporters from each side are on complete opposite pages, but one thing we all agree on is that Clark is not worth 500-600k a year.

So sad for freo fans if any truth to the rumour that freo have tabled a 500k+/yr contract for him. And more concerns for those freo fans who don't think he is worth a 1sy round pick, as (if the rumour is true) obviously Freo rate him very highly and will pay up to get the deal done.

It is pretty clear, that if Clark goes to freo then it will cost Freo at least a 1st round pick! The lions will know what contract offer clark is being offered and thus freo cant be offering 2nd & 3rd round picks in a weak draft for a player they rate and are willing to pay big for. The discussion should be what extra pick or player should or should not be included.

I think what ever happens after this potential trade there will be more happy lions fans then Freo

 

[theGav56]

Well it look like the supporters from each side are on complete opposite pages, but one thing we all agree on is that Clark is not worth 500-600k a year.

So sad for freo fans if any truth to the rumour that freo have tabled a 500k+/yr contract for him. And more concerns for those freo fans who don't think he is worth a 1sy round pick, as (if the rumour is true) obviously Freo rate him very highly and will pay up to get the deal done.

It is pretty clear, that if Clark goes to freo then it will cost Freo at least a 1st round pick! The lions will know what contract offer clark is being offered and thus freo cant be offering 2nd & 3rd round picks in a weak draft for a player they rate and are willing to pay big for. The discussion should be what extra pick or player should or should not be included.

I think what ever happens after this potential trade there will be more happy lions fans then Freo

I am reading those things and seeing Clark free in the PSD. No-one else thinks he is worth that money, so come on down. Why the hell would we put up a big bid for someone the Lions clearly don't see as worth a decent trade for?

2nd or 3rd rounder + Duf, or 3rd rounder + MJ.

 

[yakka man]

I am reading those things and seeing Clark free in the PSD. No-one else thinks he is worth that money, so come on down. Why the hell would we put up a big bid for someone the Lions clearly don't see as worth a decent trade for?

2nd or 3rd rounder + Duf, or 3rd rounder + MJ.

That's exactly right and could happen. Or he could just nominate for the ND and we could pick him at our first pick (16) like Luke Ball. Our first rounder + Duffield is ridiculous and if the club made that deal I would be very disappointed.

 

[Nickos66]

This just in.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/dockers/10231975/dockers-closer-to-securing-clark/

 

[dlanod]

He does that and he'll probably be headed straight to GWS. They've already made an offer to him so Freo gifts them a chance to take a punt with pick 15? Or their first pick in the PSD? They'll be laughing.

To be honest that's probably the main reason the Lions are still in with a shot.

 

[yakka man]

This just in.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/dockers/10231975/dockers-closer-to-securing-clark/

Yeah I saw that. According to the article he has stated that he does not want to play for GWS. It does look like he will be at Freo next year. Just hope we don't do a stupid trade for him and hope he plays well.

 

[JasRulz63]

That's exactly right and could happen. Or he could just nominate for the ND and we could pick him at our first pick (16) like Luke Ball. Our first rounder + Duffield is ridiculous and if the club made that deal I would be very disappointed.

Wouldn't you just be better off offering pick 16 for him and guarantee getting him, as opposed to playing hard-balll, and potentially lose him to GWS at pick 15? He has a young family, so he isn't going to sit out a season of footy if he doesn't get his way, and forego the 500-600k GWS could pay him.

If he does get around what he wants at 500-600k, how many players getting paid that much, get traded for second/third round + fringe player?

 

[estibador]

Not a fan of duffield. We shouldn't be adding players with average skill to our side when we already have a few.

There's plenty of things you can criticise Duffield for but skills aren't one of them.

He's probably the best kick in specialist we've ever had at the club.

 

[estibador]

600k is a ridiculous asking salary for someone like Clark. He's obviously letting the inflationary effects of the expansion clubs cloud his judgement of what he's worth.

No normal clubs can afford to waste that much cap space on a guy with his career output to date.