Oppo Camp 2012 non-Geelong AFL match and general discussion

[Pure_Ownage]

Carlton's speed across the ground is evident and they are really hurting the Pies on the spread.

I think they will try and challenge us in the same way and we will need a fairly quick side to counter them.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

wow! That may be Collingwood's season right there.

Ball is the Kelly of the Collingwood midfield, huge loss if it's an ACL.

They are light on for inside mids so he would be a huge loss.

Good news is he was assisted off rather than going off on a stretcher. Doesn't mean it's not an acl though.

 

[marshhhhh]

Maxwell is really just dreadful.
I can't stand him and he is just awful to watch.

I don't think Ball will be long term, maybe just a bit of a hyperextension.
Didn't look ACL on the replay.

 

[winty]

I know it's only Round 3, but Collingwood in 2012 look a tad like Port in 2008. Seems losing to us in the manner they did in the grand final (being with us for 3 quarters before getting dismantled in the last) is playing on their minds.

They look like a shadow of their former selves. Don't know how much that has to do with the change of coach, but they have no semblance of structure or game plan out there at the moment. It's probably the strongest side they've put on the park this year too.

When you think of it, they were lucky to win last week as well. They only really won it in the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half when they kicked 4 quick goals. Richmond were keeping up with them for the rest of the match.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Ball looks ok.

In fact Reid has been subbed off injured, Maxwell will have to play key defence now which isn't his go.

 

[marshhhhh]

Maxwell playing key defender = 4 points Carlton.

 

[marshhhhh]

Ball off again.
If they come out of this with injuries to Reid and Ball, they are in massive trouble for the season.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Ball going off with the knee again, and Collingwood have already used their sub.

They are doing well to hang in though, scoring goals on the counter from the meagre opportunities they are getting.

Carlton are dominating the game, should be further in front, just haven't put enough of it on the scoreboard.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Geez the Blues look good. We had a good win last week people but im afraid that's not the best opposition the league can manage. Carlton are better than the Hawks in numerous ways.

- Structurely better and more solid line to line. And if a big goes down they can deal with it better.

- Rucks are miles better and less injury prone.

- Midfield clearance unit in general will be more difficult to deal with.

- Less skillful but quicker and harder working than the Hawks. Working very hard defensively this year.

- No Franklin and Rioli up forward but less predictable and Betts and Garlett have their fair share of brilliance plus Waite and other bigs are presenting and contesting well.

 

[marshhhhh]

Jeez this Dawes is a complete dud isn't he?

He's just so pathetically soft and so slow to get things moving once he does get the ball.
They really need to find another tall to help out Cloke in the next couple of years.
If the rumors are true about Cloke possibly heading over to GWS, then Collingwood will be buggered without him.

Great call, I just said the same thing myself.
They would be very, very nervous about GWS lurking.

Dawes is a very average player IMO.

 

[vinum coupe]

you lot are a pack of girls.

Just read the comments from the bounce to now and its a see saw.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Yeh, I'm feeling very nervous about my Carlton 1-39 point bet now ...still feel we see Cloke really have a big influence in the 2nd half.

Jeez this Dawes is a complete dud isn't he?

He's just so pathetically soft and so slow to get things moving once he does get the ball.
They really need to find another tall to help out Cloke in the next couple of years.
If the rumors are true about Cloke possibly heading over to GWS, then Collingwood will be buggered without him.

Dawes has struggled but very hard playing as a KF for the Pies with the low percentage boundary line garbage they have fallen badly back in to tonight. Plus as I said the Blues are applying more defensive pressure than any team in the league right now besides maybe WC.

 

[marshhhhh]

"BACK TO BACK? NO! BACK TO COLLYWOBBLES!!"

Brilliant.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Garlett and Betts are an ever present threat, particularly on the counter. In space, they cut you up. Combine that with a good midfield and mobile rucks and Carlton are very dangerous. The defence has improved too.

When we play them, apart from finding the right matchups for Murphy, Judd, Betts and Garlett we need to (apart from win the midfield obviously) kick accurately for goal, and when we kick points/ make sure we lock it in and don't let them get into space behind the zone from the kickout.

 

[marshhhhh]

Gee would love another Taylor Hunt PO.
I think he is a great match up for Garlett down back, I think Mackie could probably cover Betts fairly well.

 

[darren forssman]

why are they discussing the kreuzer potential goal when it was clearly a free to obrien? dumkopfs.

and one wonders how much this is coach influenced...the pies lost their soul when malthouse was boned.

 

[Willo_]

Collingwood were always playing above themselves, people bought into that 2010 preliminary final and I think the Collingwood players did too.

The pies were such a good team BECAUSE of Malthouse.. And I really wonder how long until Eddie cops the heat he will rightly deserve for removing the best coach in the league and replacing him with an unproven lovechild.

Should get really ugly now with the pies down a player on the bench. Dawes is completely overrated.. That being said I have never rated him.. And he has never bothered the quality defenders we have.
See that arrogant little **** Fasolo isn't smirking and grinning this week :-D

Blues will be a worry.. Bloody quick and have a good balance it looks as well.

 

[darren forssman]

Collingwood were always playing above themselves, people bought into that 2010 preliminary final and I think the Collingwood players did too.

i think you're easily dismissing the genius of mm and the gameplan that he created to specifically beat geelong.

 

[Willo_]

you lot are a pack of girls.

Just read the comments from the bounce to now and its a see saw.

Hahaha I was thinking this a bit... Bobby your the worst! One min your talking up the pies, the next saying they have always been playing above themselves!!?

 

[darren forssman]

Hahaha I was thinking this a bit... Bobby your the worst! One min your talking up the pies, the next saying they have always been playing above themselves!!?

or one minute cloke and dawes are going to rip the game apart, the next that dawes is the worst forward in the afl.

 

[marshhhhh]

or one minute cloke and dawes are going to rip the game apart, the next that dawes is the worst forward in the afl.

Just in my defence, I only said Cloke would have a good game - which I was wrong about.

I have always maintained Dawes is a very average player.

Also, Pendlebury - wow.

 

[Selective Retention]

Carlton and Hawthorn equal premiership favourites.

Sounds good

 

[BIGANT]

Carlton and Hawthorn equal premiership favourites.

Sounds good

I'll take us @ 5's

 

[JUBJUB]

Some dopey Carlton supporter needs to update their sign -

'Back to Back ?'
'More Like Back to Collywobbles'

 

[Willo_]

Some dopey Carlton supporter needs to update their sign -

'Back to Back ?'
'More Like Back to Collywobbles'

Why the embarrassed smiley?? Pretty sure they were taking the piss out of the pies from loosing last year...