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This Year's Bolter & Slider

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Every year, around about this time, a few names unexpectedly start to crop up around draft discussions.

Firstly, players previously considered relatively low picks start to rise in many's esteem.
Likewise, a few highly touted prospects begin to diminish in the eye's of recruiters and talent scouts.

With that in mind, who is your tip to?:

1) Shoot up the draft order (i.e. Stephen Hill, Reece Conca)
2) Slide down the pecking order (i.e. Jack Darling, Mitch Grigg)
3) Fail to get a look in at all, in spite of BF hype (i.e. Zyrus Manson, Shane Nelson)

My three tips would be:

1) Tanner Smith: A heap of clubs would be eyeing off KPP stocks coming into this draft. In my mind, easily the best KPD available this year. Has been projected to go around the mid twenties, could easily jump into the early teens if a club has their heart set on him. A lot to like about Smith.

2) Dayle Garlett: Can be a selfish player and has had some well-documented attitude problems down at Swan districts. No doubt highly talented but whoever selects him would be backing themselves in to iron out these aspects of his game.

3) Marco Paparone: 2012 is a strong daft for midfielders, but it's probably not that great for talls. Saw a lot of last years KPP prospects such as Frost and Bosely go unpicked in the main draft because we tend to overhype the big fellas more than the little guys. Paparone is very much the flavour of the month. His contested marking leaves a lot to be desired and while his endurance lets him dominate juniors it won't allow him time and space at senior level. (Was tempted to go with Tom Lee here, but for me it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be snapped up come draft time now!)
 
Bolter: Macrae - might find himself close to the top 10 with a BOG in the TAC Cup grand final.

Slider: Menzel - obvious reasons.
 
I'm with Pykie. I've got Macrae as my bolter also. Has come from a fair way back and I wouldn't be shocked to see him go top 5.

My big sliders are Corey Chalmbers and Chris Yarran. Both have shown plenty in the past but haven't elevated their games this year as expected.
 
Bolter: Macrae - might find himself close to the top 10 with a BOG in the TAC Cup grand final.

Slider: Menzel - obvious reasons.

Yep, Macrae could well do a Sidebottom with that performance.

Menzel with his injuries could slide. So damn skilled though!
 

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Bolter: Macrae - might find himself close to the top 10 with a BOG in the TAC Cup grand final.

Slider: Menzel - obvious reasons.

Exactly what I was thinking.
 
1) Shoot up the draft order (i.e. Stephen Hill, Reece Conca)
2) Slide down the pecking order (i.e. Jack Darling, Mitch Grigg)
3) Fail to get a look in at all, in spite of BF hype (i.e. Zyrus Manson, Shane Nelson)
1)Mason Shaw could see Brisbane looking at him with they don't get Tippett
2)some who is rated quite highly is Dayle Garlett could slide due to off field problems
3)Andrew Boston due to Gold Coast picking him up from a zone pick
 
Can i make 1 bloke both bolter and slider.

Stringer for both, if clubs are confident in the leg he could go very early, if there is reason to doubt he could slide a decent way.
 
bolters: Macrae, membrey, wilkins, clurey

sliders: Paperone (shocking disposal) menzel, kenneddy, Haynes
 

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Can i make 1 bloke both bolter and slider.

Stringer for both, if clubs are confident in the leg he could go very early, if there is reason to doubt he could slide a decent way.

if he goes high its not boltings it's whereh he's expected, he can only slide
 
I have a few bolters. Most likely is Colquhoun. I see him easily going top 15, maybe even top 10. Other one is Temay, who a few teams might look at earlier because of his shutdown role on Whitfield.

Slider? Stewart and Hunter. Just don't see a lot of clubs bidding for these somewhat iffy FS picks.
 
if he goes high its not boltings it's whereh he's expected, he can only slide

I think the injury has already lead him to slide out of top 5 to more 10-15. His recovery reportedly has been pretty good so maybe your right and hes really back in top 5 range. The pic of the break in the trade rumors thread has to make you think though.
 
Slider: Grundy

Bolter: O'Roukke
 
Slider: Daniher...

But seriously, my bolters would be lowrie and amato, and Tipungwuti to go 3rd or 4th round (reportedly got much, much fitter over the last year).

Sliders, obviously Menzel, but i'll go Haynes (hunch) and Pongracic (missed chunks of footy and reportedly not a super athlete so could test badly)
 

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Haven't heard too much on Chalmbers to be honest, what's the go there?

Dominated U15's and U16's and had a big colts season last year. Inside midfielder but he's small and too slow.

Played out of position in the WA side (like just about everyone else) and struggled as a small forward.
 
I don't think Macrae is really all that much of a bolter. He was always around that first round mark, and with his size/style, a move to the top 10 isn't all that surprising. If anything, I think he is being slightly overrated now that more people have jumped on him.

The three obvious 'bolters' would be Nicholas Graham, Dean Towers and Tim O'Brien. Otherwise, I'll go with Tim Broomhead and Andrew Boston - Broomhead who may go first round, and Boston who I think someone could try to trade with GC for.

In terms of 'sliders' or missing out completely, the #1 should be Josh Simpson. I have him going in the first round in my draft, but that wont happen. Somewhere around the 30-50 mark is probably more likely. Shannon Taylor and Dom Barry are two others who could potentially miss selection, despite being highly rated. I also tend to think Marco Paparone and Harley Montgomery wont go as high as some people think.
 
In terms of 'sliders' or missing out completely, the #1 should be Josh Simpson.

What's your reasoning on Simpson? I know he had some injuries earlier in the season but appears to be over them now. Looks like a fairly complete player, but does that make him a little too vanilla for recruiters looking for standout qualities?
 
He's definitely not vanilla. Don't get me wrong, I'm probably Simpson's biggest fan on here. But he hasn't reached the same heights that he did last year, and his play has been quite inconsistent this season. In terms of speed and skill, he is right at the head of the class. But I can just see him slipping.
 
Menzel to slide a little more after this weekends scare?
Realise, it's only a PCL, however would set off a few alarm bells for recruiters.
Could be a bargain!
 

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