Ian Dargie
Premiership Player
- Jun 14, 2011
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- West Coast
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- #326
People should still be able to make coherent arguments.It's not a matter of "Is that really how it works?" Given this thread is an exercise in subjective views, it's a matter of 'how each individual personally sees it'.
Otherwise I may as well put RoJo No.1 and expect everyone to take me seriously.
What does that even mean?I'm sure there are both pro's and cons for Kerr playing with Judd and Cousins. Did Kerr playing with those two make his footballing easier? Yes. Did playing with two players better than him steal his thunder?
He still managed to finish second in the Brownlow in the year Cousins won it.
Did someone forget to steal his thunder that year?
Come on, this is bullshit.Yes, for there was less opportunity to shine. Just like when a star studded midfield have multiple players so-called "stealing" Brownlow votes from each other. Kerr is an elite player in his own right. Personal awards possibly could've been more forthcoming if Judd and Cousins weren't around to steal his thunder, so to speak.
It's not like there's a limited quota of quality and Judd and Cousins were hogging it all.
There was plenty of "opportunity to shine". In fact, it was easier for Kerr to shine because he didn't have to worry about a tag. When Cousins and Judd left, how did Kerr go?
Geez, you're keen on buzzwords.I never said or implied that Matera was a lone hand in his day. I said that WC's team in the 90's was great but blue collar, and that Matera produced dazzling moves and scintillating play. What I meant by this is that he stood out at WC due to the flair and uniqueness he played with compared to his more workman-like fellow midfielders. That's very much unlike Kerr, who had Judd and Cousins stealing his thunder.
Were Mainwaring, Heady and Lewis "blue collar"?
Matera stood out because he was a champion.
Hang on.Matera's situation was different to Kerr's during their respective successful periods. Matera may have been tagged more often, but he was the main man, the Eagles' most dangerous player at the time. With this came opportunity that wasn't afforded Kerr. Kerr, while not tagged as much, was still behind Judd and Cousins, who were the focus of the team for WC as well as the opposition.
So Matera, who got tagged, had an advantage, whereas Kerr, who wasn't tagged, was denied opportunity?
Surely that's about as arse-backwards as it gets.
The fact that Matera got tagged made his life harder. The fact that Kerr wasn't tagged made his life easier. Doesn't that make more sense than what you've said?