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Best left arm spinner ever?
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Bishan Bedi.
Not sure why there havent been more successful left arm spin bowlers.
Not sure why there havent been more successful left arm spin bowlers.
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Actually Daniel Vettori is probably the best I've seen, never saw Bedi although I heard he was pretty good.
Actually Daniel Vettori is probably the best I've seen, never saw Bedi although I heard he was pretty good.
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Herath is definitely up there if he produces another year like this year you could definitely argue a strong case for him
Is this pre or post the supposed 15degrees of arm 'deviation'?. Some of the 'bowling' I've seen lately is just out & out throwing. Changing the rules & sidelining the umpire has led to the huge increase in this type of bowler becoming successful.
Derek Underwood.
Hedley Verity.
Wilfred Rhodes.
Johhny Briggs.
Bobby Peel.
Interesting that the Poms have had quite a few, and we've had hardly any (we have leggies instead).
From other countries, Alf Valentine was pretty good, as was Bedi and herath is building a good record.
Johnny Briggs for some legendary performances.
Hedley Verity.
Wilfred Rhodes.
Johhny Briggs.
Bobby Peel.
Interesting that the Poms have had quite a few, and we've had hardly any (we have leggies instead).
From other countries, Alf Valentine was pretty good, as was Bedi and herath is building a good record.
Johnny Briggs for some legendary performances.
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joking, Vettori for me
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No contest, Bishen Bedi. To watch him drifting and turning with 2 close in fielders either side of the pitch was a pure delight. Deadly Derek Underwood was unplayable on his day, but needed conditions to suit him in order to dominate. Vettori's very good also, but Bedi was the classic off-spinner. Gary Sobers used to bowl them pretty well. Ray Bright was pretty good until too much bowling to world class batsmen in WSC saw him flatten out his bowling to suit one day cricket.
Why don't we see more left arm spinners? Because they all seem to take the soft option of bowling othodox around the wicket and push the ball through. Whereas this is okay for the shortened form of the game, they will never gain success at Test level.
When I was a boy, I loved watching David Sincock, a left arm chinaman bowler for SA. He could turn the ball like you wouldn't believe, but unfortunately lacked consistency with control. Very successful at Sheffield Shield level but struggled in Tests.
Why don't we see more left arm spinners? Because they all seem to take the soft option of bowling othodox around the wicket and push the ball through. Whereas this is okay for the shortened form of the game, they will never gain success at Test level.
When I was a boy, I loved watching David Sincock, a left arm chinaman bowler for SA. He could turn the ball like you wouldn't believe, but unfortunately lacked consistency with control. Very successful at Sheffield Shield level but struggled in Tests.
In the last 30 years since I have been watching Test cricket the best left arm orthodox bowlers from each country have been in no particular order-
England:
Underwood, Tufnell, Edmonds, Illingworth, Panesar
Australia:
Border, Hogan, Bright, Bennett, Clarke
New Zealand:
Boock, Vettori
West Indies:
Gomes, Adams, Benn, Permaul
South Africa:
Peterson, Harris
Pakistan:
Sohail, Rehman
India:
Bedi, Doshi, Shastri, Raju, Ohja
Sri Lanka:
Jayasuria, Herath
Bangladesh:
Al Hasan, Razzak
Zimbabwe:
G. Flower
Fair to say other than Bedi, Underwood, Vettori & maybe a couple of others it is a very thin list (I may have missed a couple as well).
England:
Underwood, Tufnell, Edmonds, Illingworth, Panesar
Australia:
Border, Hogan, Bright, Bennett, Clarke
New Zealand:
Boock, Vettori
West Indies:
Gomes, Adams, Benn, Permaul
South Africa:
Peterson, Harris
Pakistan:
Sohail, Rehman
India:
Bedi, Doshi, Shastri, Raju, Ohja
Sri Lanka:
Jayasuria, Herath
Bangladesh:
Al Hasan, Razzak
Zimbabwe:
G. Flower
Fair to say other than Bedi, Underwood, Vettori & maybe a couple of others it is a very thin list (I may have missed a couple as well).
Illingworth was a right arm offie.
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I thought that too, but I think he's referring to Richard, not Ray.
Correct Richard Illingworth 80's/90's left arm orthodox for England ..Ray was well before my time
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Who is now currently an umpire.
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i'd go vetorri, however my memory only extends back to about 1997
Has to be Bedi, but I never saw him or Underwood. Of the ones I've seen Vetorri, but I really like the look of Herath.
Best action - Paul Adams.
Best action - Paul Adams.
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stupid post at least ad some input your self
I think I recall a Doshi. Dilip Doshi maybe?
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From my 45 years of watching test cricket, it would have to be Derek Underwood as he was nearly unplayable
when the conditions where in his favour. From the purist angle, some might say that Bedi was better because he flighted and drifted the ball, whereas "Deadly Derek" wasn't truly a spin bowler as he bowled at almost slow medium pace at times and could cut and even swing the ball, as well turn it.
Actually another topic you could discuss would be who was "the best Test keeper" to slow bowling ... and if you watched Alan Knott in tandem with his English and Kent team mate, Underwood, there would be no doubt who the No. 1 keeper to slowies would be.
In recent times Vettori would be the best, and from the vault, Rhodes and Verity have the figures and longevity to say that they must have been something special in their day.
when the conditions where in his favour. From the purist angle, some might say that Bedi was better because he flighted and drifted the ball, whereas "Deadly Derek" wasn't truly a spin bowler as he bowled at almost slow medium pace at times and could cut and even swing the ball, as well turn it.
Actually another topic you could discuss would be who was "the best Test keeper" to slow bowling ... and if you watched Alan Knott in tandem with his English and Kent team mate, Underwood, there would be no doubt who the No. 1 keeper to slowies would be.
In recent times Vettori would be the best, and from the vault, Rhodes and Verity have the figures and longevity to say that they must have been something special in their day.
