If you don't put rookies in these lists, where do you put them? They've got to be put against some year, and they do count in your sum total of drafting.
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Redo the 2009 draft.
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yaco55
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Ant is right.
You have to include all players drafted in a given year.
To do otherwise is crazy.
You have to include all players drafted in a given year.
To do otherwise is crazy.
Geelong will look upon the 2009 draft as one in the same vein as the 1999 or 2001 draft class. Given our selections (and of course factoring the sad 4-knee Menzel example) we still have Christensen, Duncan and Vardy (who kicked 6 in the ressies yesterday) and if all were blessed with regular luck with fitness, they would all be core players at the Cats. Christensen best on ground last night and Duncan has been good for most of his career, and both are regulars now. Put it this way, i'd rather have Christensen and Duncan as a pair than Scully and Trengove based on their career output so far. Not bad for picks 28 and 40..
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Does that make Josh Cowan the Charlie Gardiner and Daniel Foster of the 2009 draft for Geelong?
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He's had achilles issues, has barely been fit for much of the last 18 months or so after playing a few games mid 2011.
To date he hasn't been able to display his wares, and we can just hope he gets back to playing again. Some players just don't get much luck with injuries.
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This draft looks like being a lot better than earlier percieved and I pinch myself when I consider how well we did at this draft.
Cunnington, Bastinac, Black and MacMillan all look to be potential 200+ gamers.
Kennedy is a good player but has been hampered by injury and a lack of opportunity.
Norris was our "huh" moment.
Majak Daw was the steak knives in the RD.
We could end up getting 1,000 games out of this draft.
Cunnington, Bastinac, Black and MacMillan all look to be potential 200+ gamers.
Kennedy is a good player but has been hampered by injury and a lack of opportunity.
Norris was our "huh" moment.
Majak Daw was the steak knives in the RD.
We could end up getting 1,000 games out of this draft.
Dylan Roberton Pick 49 for Freo currently doing very well for the Saints.
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Should we wait for the "redo the 2009 rookie draft" thread?
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Aaron Black has played 8 games in 3.5 seasons, can't see him being a 200 gamer.
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He's only 22 but I concede that he would need a good run with injury to get there.
Pretty clear top 3 now:
Jake Carlisle
Nathan Fyfe
Dustin Martin
When you consider how many more gun mids there are than keys, surely Carlisle is pushing Fyfe as first picked here?
Jake Carlisle
Nathan Fyfe
Dustin Martin
When you consider how many more gun mids there are than keys, surely Carlisle is pushing Fyfe as first picked here?
Fyfe has plateaued a bit for me.
I would pick
Martin
Carlisle
Fyfe
For wce in that order.
Carlisle had done very little before this season - now he's no.1?
Reactionary as always... it was Fyfe, Martin and Jetta locked as the top 3 less than 6 months ago.
Reactionary as always... it was Fyfe, Martin and Jetta locked as the top 3 less than 6 months ago.
1. Fyfe
2. Martin
3. Carlisle
4. Cunnington
5. Barlow
6. Black
7. Talia
8. Christensen
9. Duncan
10. Crameri
11. Reid
12. Jetta
13. Scully
14. Bastinac
15. Stratton
16. Trengove
17. Gunston
18. Vardy
19. Grimes
20. Golby
21. Howlett
- Forgot Stratton and didn't want to ditch Howlett, hence the top 21.
- Carlisle and Black the bolters from this year. Hard to place them. May look back in 12 months time and see I've been caught up in the hype but I'm treating them as talls who took a pretty standard amount of time to breakout.
- Grimes and Vardy also very tough to place to due injury.
- Wanted to throw Roberton in there but I just haven't seen enough of him in StK colours yet to make a judgement.
- The talent drops off significantly after the top 25.
2. Martin
3. Carlisle
4. Cunnington
5. Barlow
6. Black
7. Talia
8. Christensen
9. Duncan
10. Crameri
11. Reid
12. Jetta
13. Scully
14. Bastinac
15. Stratton
16. Trengove
17. Gunston
18. Vardy
19. Grimes
20. Golby
21. Howlett
- Forgot Stratton and didn't want to ditch Howlett, hence the top 21.
- Carlisle and Black the bolters from this year. Hard to place them. May look back in 12 months time and see I've been caught up in the hype but I'm treating them as talls who took a pretty standard amount of time to breakout.
- Grimes and Vardy also very tough to place to due injury.
- Wanted to throw Roberton in there but I just haven't seen enough of him in StK colours yet to make a judgement.
- The talent drops off significantly after the top 25.
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We traded for Dalziell, drafted Sheppard, Weedon and Stevens in the ND, Neates in the PSD and Broome, Strijk, Hams & Oakley-Nicholls in the RD.
I almost vomited on my keyboard typing that.
I almost vomited on my keyboard typing that.
Sheppard and Hams the only left.
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4. Cunnington - I laughed.
6. Black - I laughed so hard I woke the house up.
6. Black - I laughed so hard I woke the house up.
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He looks like a really capable 2nd/3rd tall, perfect foil for Petrie at the moment.
Question is, do you think he could ever be that go to forward?
Cunnington - 3rd in the AFL for clearances, 10th for contested possessions. Not only that, but they're quality possessions under pressure. Go have a look at his numbers for the last 18 games.
Black - Averaging 2.5 goals, 14 disposals, 5 marks and 3 tackles. As a comparison, these numbers are actually better than what Jack Darling's produced in the last 18 months. 11th in the AFL for goals per game and averaging 95 in Supercoach if you're into that kind of thing.
Anyone can look like a star if you pick a small enough sample.
Take a poll of every non-North supporter on this board and I guarantee that 90+% rank Barlow, Christensen, Jetta, Duncan and probably Reid and Talia above Cunnington and Black.
Take a poll of every non-North supporter on this board and I guarantee that 90+% rank Barlow, Christensen, Jetta, Duncan and probably Reid and Talia above Cunnington and Black.
