Danny robbed by his team once again of a decent result. Ahh well, atleast he was in the points!
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2013 Formula One World Championship - Round 8 @ Silverstone
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Lewis has just unloaded
"Pirelli has done nothing to make tyres safer & no point talking to FIA either as no one listens. Safety is the biggest issue. To have four blow-outs is unacceptable. I'm massively disappointed and it's down to the tyres."
"Pirelli has done nothing to make tyres safer & no point talking to FIA either as no one listens. Safety is the biggest issue. To have four blow-outs is unacceptable. I'm massively disappointed and it's down to the tyres."
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Is it possible Mark said he doesn't even know where he'll be next just to piss off Vettel a little bit more
And the German press probably and Germans in general.
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He's spot on too. Fair enough if they went when they were pushing for an extra couple of laps but **** me if they can't last 5 laps that's a joke. Can't be doing Pirelli any favors pushing their product either but how ****ing annoyed would it be to do all the hard work, get yourself to the front and the tyres can't do their simple job.
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Bernie wanted tyres that dont last, he has them now.
Everyone knows Pirelli makes good road tyres, legends like the P7 and P zero.
Everyone knows Pirelli makes good road tyres, legends like the P7 and P zero.
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Just landed to see the results, looks like I missed a good race, bugger!
Certainly made the WDC more interesting.
Germany next week, and it's usually here that Ferrari start to kick it up for the run home.
Certainly made the WDC more interesting.
Germany next week, and it's usually here that Ferrari start to kick it up for the run home.
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Well, that was an incredible experience! I'll upload pictures later- video if it lets me. Disappointed for Lewis but happy for Mark, Danny, Fernando, Paul- my ears still hurt from the noise!
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I don't think many understand what they're trying to do? Making teams develop the technology and principles to make the tires last. Eventually that will flow down to road cars, which means we'll be buying tires less, leaving less of a carbon footprint and meaning motorsport won't be an extravagance as it is now, meaning its less likely to experience protests.
Vettel's gearbox went, I laughed. A few more DNF's from him would be nice. Nice job by a few teams to get drivers back into the points
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Well, for me the biggest thing to come out of this race was Daniel son. He showed he has raw pace in Qually and he showed he has race craft and is not intimidated around world champions. He'll win races in redbull next year. Its whether he brings the coin and whether or not Kimi wants to be Vettels biatch.
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Also liked Rosbergs "I wasn't disappointed with that one" in reference to Vettel going out.
A shame Damon didn't ask Webber about Vettel not finishing,I reckon he would've given the same response
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There's talk that the young driver test at Silverstone will turn into a tyre test and a decision to go that way can't come fast enough.
Any talk that changing the tyre spec can't be done is now mute because of the safety implications associated with the tyre destruction witnessed during the race. It would seem that the problem with the tyres was amplified by the track characteristics at Silverstone and they couldn't handle the combination of high speed corners that the track features.
Luckily the next two stops on the calendar are Nurburgring and Hungary which shouldn't stress the tyres anywhere near the levels experienced during Silverstone. Then there's the summer break before the teams arrive at Spa. If the tyre problems aren't fixed by then there's going to be grief and one of the great races of the year could be ruined.....
Any talk that changing the tyre spec can't be done is now mute because of the safety implications associated with the tyre destruction witnessed during the race. It would seem that the problem with the tyres was amplified by the track characteristics at Silverstone and they couldn't handle the combination of high speed corners that the track features.
Luckily the next two stops on the calendar are Nurburgring and Hungary which shouldn't stress the tyres anywhere near the levels experienced during Silverstone. Then there's the summer break before the teams arrive at Spa. If the tyre problems aren't fixed by then there's going to be grief and one of the great races of the year could be ruined.....
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on another note I read some analysis of the 2014 engines last week and some people are expecting the power output from the 2014 turbos to be higher than the current engines with torque increasing nearly 100% as well. I saw a figure quoted of 350Nm increasing to 600Nm. The power number probably includes the energy harvested in energy recovery system, but those kind of numbers will have to be in the brief for Pirelli to build a tyre against for next year.
Pirelli are going to have their hands full trying to build a tyre that can handle those kind of engine characteristics, and I would expect a return to bullet proof long lasting tyres for 2014.
Beyond that is anyones guess.
Pirelli are going to have their hands full trying to build a tyre that can handle those kind of engine characteristics, and I would expect a return to bullet proof long lasting tyres for 2014.
Beyond that is anyones guess.
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I hope he gets the RBR drive, I would imagine Vettel would prefer him over Kimi, no way I see Kimi going without something in his contract about being equal. Even if he does go, Dan could hopefully replace Kimi or that french nuffy... could do worse than a Lotus drive.
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Who had problems with there left tyre today
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There getting more torque because there limited in what ratios they can use. it won't be just rear tires that will be an issue. Fuel, brakes and balast...
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I do believe that Daniel son is born ferrari driver if I ever saw one. He is really really marketable and always smiling like an Italian. the question for him is if he can choose between the two (redbull &ferrari) Where is he more likely to end up the number one driver first?
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Nevertheless, tyres which blow up at 100+mph are probably not what Bernie had in mind- it's a design flaw, one that Pirelli and the governing body need to look at together and improve. It's a safety issue and it cannot continue- those huge bits of rubber could have killed someone.
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Fantastic experience for my first F1 meeting.
I was in the Club Corner Grandstand where Vettel broke down and it was the biggest roar of the day!
Behind Hamilton and Button, Webber was clearly the crowd favourite and there were cheers as Webber began to chase down Rosberg.
Great day
I was in the Club Corner Grandstand where Vettel broke down and it was the biggest roar of the day!
Behind Hamilton and Button, Webber was clearly the crowd favourite and there were cheers as Webber began to chase down Rosberg.
Great day
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Fantastic experience for my first F1 meeting.
I was in the Club Corner Grandstand where Vettel broke down and it was the biggest roar of the day!
Behind Hamilton and Button, Webber was clearly the crowd favourite and there were cheers as Webber began to chase down Rosberg.
Great day
You weren't too far from me then! The eruption of delight when Vettel retired was a joy to behold!
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The parade lap and start of the race.
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Best part of the race was Vettel getting doughnuts. Helps make the rest of the season more interesting.
Not a good look for Pirelli here. Going to be a big deal with another race next week.
Hamilton was the big loser.
Not a good look for Pirelli here. Going to be a big deal with another race next week.
Hamilton was the big loser.
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What the TV cameras didn't show you was the effort to get Vettel's car off the track- it was actually quite funny- several marshals ran onto the track and as they did one of them fell over, to a roar of laughter! Then they started pushing the car- left it in an even worse place than before- and then as they pushed it through the gate and up an incline it nearly rolled back down again!
Even though Vettel didn't take his helmet off, you could somehow tell he was pissed off...