Essendon Black Ops Drug use sparks copycat rush

[2one2]

This is not the worst by a long shot. The article is well researched professional journalism reporting on facts and research tied in with a leading academics interpretation of these facts and the wider social ramifications of EFC's "whatever it takes" approach and consequences into the future. It ain't no opinion piece.

Six out of the eight information sources are individuals willing to put their name to this significant - and I think scary - phenomenon with direct experience and expertise working in the field from the supply side to the end user.

The article highlights how even kids are massively taking up the PEDS and vanity drugs. It is clear Hird, who lacks moral perception, and his enablers, the EFC , by their actions, are only exacerbating the consequences as outlined in this factual article. They are a disgrace until they do the right and moral thing and distance themselves totally from the people that allowed this to happen.. not to further reward them. What disgusting hubris, James Hird… bubble man, king of the heap.

This article demonstrates another reason why Hird should have stood aside as soon as the inquiry was called and the peptide program (and worse, e.g.:muscular dystrophy drugs) was blown open: people read between the lines and the perception is also he is getting away with it - plus the greater realisation he had history with Charters along with other well rewarded individuals such as Darcy, Woewoedin, etc… and stuff about Croad= Hawks? and Bock, etc.. But Hird is setting the example of non responsibility, acting shamelessly and keeps giving the finger to the AFL, the other 17 clubs and all their supporters.

Danny Jeffcote said the ''subtle message'' of these revelations was that if it is good enough for top athletes ''why should if be different for anyone else''.
I agree, but not so subtle, IMO.

Even in the remotest one in a thousand chance Hird did not know what was going on (I'm incredulous), he would still have to be condemned for overseeing what went wrong, gross mismanagement (lacking any records, supposedly) and he should bear responsibility for the perception which has hurt the game more than any other individual… just on the image consequences and perception basis, alone. For Hird and inc to give the finger, get the big pay while seeing the code brought low,
I think Hird and EFC has even tarnished the perception of other leading clubs such as: Geelong (links with Thompson, Dank?, Robinson?); the Hawks (with Croad connection, their desperation to win and remarkable back from injury stories); …. even the perception of the system of ethical medical oversight within the clubs has gone down the gurgler with Hird and the Dons.

After all, it went on for a nearly a year and they nearly got away with it and we now know the recently retired Cochoran (Hirds PA) was actively engaged very late in the piece in ensuring continuation of supply into 2014.

I really shouldn't engage but I think this is my favourite bit: Hird has tarnished the image of Geelong because Dank and Robinson were employed there and the Hawks because they had injection procedures in place before Essendon did. Haha okay mate. Gobble Gobble.

 

[Lord_Espos]

yeah but if everyone hates Essendon so much, why would you want to copy them?

Having said that the bombers boys did get pretty massive in a pretty short space of time. And with all of the media coverage and discussions, everyone's knowledge of what drugs to take to get massive has increasede exponentially.

I still agree that the premise of the article is a bit weak...

 

[Boxhead_31]

this is definitely Essendon's fault. Nothing to do with the wall to wall media coverage at all.

Boo Hird!!!

Would there be wall to wall media coverage without Essendon?

 

[Aussie in exile]

Most football fans will know its a dumb article, but a lot of non football people who read it will believe its fact.
What it needs now is for Fat Andy to come out of the hole where is hiding and redress the balance with some of his many quotes. Where is the Fat Man when you want him

 

[jenny61_99]

I really shouldn't engage but I think this is my favourite bit: Hird has tarnished the image of Geelong because Dank and Robinson were employed there and the Hawks because they had injection procedures in place before Essendon did. Haha okay mate. Gobble Gobble.

Dank was never at Geelong.

 

[the conch]

I really shouldn't engage but I think this is my favourite bit: Hird has tarnished the image of Geelong because Dank and Robinson were employed there and the Hawks because they had injection procedures in place before Essendon did. Haha okay mate. Gobble Gobble.

You should quote me accurately.
My point is the perception of other clubs and the code in general, by the non hardcore followers, has suffered. I think it is now one of suspended suspicion, especially if there are any links with the peptide team at EFC or other unsavouries. Ungrounded as it probably is.

Also causing a tarnishing of the game is the EFC ranters saying they've been made scapegoats and twelve other teams or whatever were doing the same… that tarnishes the game in general and especially the clubs that have been strongest in recent times.

Unfortunately, however, I think they may be right to the point where it is likely there have been individuals or maybe small groups from other clubs doing supplementation of stuff like peptides that are harder to test for and popular in the gym world.

But the organisational scale and audacity of the EFC program and it's effective endorsement from leadership/ management is unprecedented. I'm amazed they were able to keep it so hushed up for so long when so many were involved.

EFC should cut it's ties with the people that so tarnished our great game or it doesn't deserve a place at the table.

 

[carnthedons]

You should quote me accurately.
My point is the perception of other clubs and the code in general, by the non hardcore followers, has suffered. I think it is now one of suspended suspicion, especially if there are any links with the peptide team at EFC or other unsavouries. Ungrounded as it probably is.

Also causing a tarnishing of the game is the EFC ranters saying they've been made scapegoats and twelve other teams or whatever were doing the same… that tarnishes the game in general and especially the clubs that have been strongest in recent times.

Unfortunately, however, I think they may be right to the point where it is likely there have been individuals or maybe small groups from other clubs doing supplementation of stuff like peptides that are harder to test for and popular in the gym world.

But the organisational scale and audacity of the EFC program and it's effective endorsement from leadership/ management is unprecedented. I'm amazed they were able to keep it so hushed up for so long when so many were involved.

EFC should cut it's ties with the people that so tarnished our great game or it doesn't deserve a place at the table.

Is it unprecedented, or unheard of?

Just because you're not aware of something going on elsewhere, doesn't make it an unprecedented situation.

 

[2one2]

Dank was never at Geelong.

You know I was just quoting another post right?

 

[jenny61_99]

Gotcha.

 

[mxett]

Its a nothing article. They're ALL vitamins, I swear

 

[Satan]

Its a nothing article. They're ALL vitamins, I swear

And amino acids

 

[DrEvil]

I must admit after prolonged erection were said to be a side effect the old geezers down at the retirement home are looking a lot tanner this summer.

 

[neutralguy]

I must admit after prolonged erection were said to be a side effect the old geezers down at the retirement home are looking a lot tanner this summer.

Anyone know if it would react with my betablocker medication?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Why is Essendon even mentioned has nothing to do with them what a stupid article.

 

[jenny61_99]

Why is Essendon even mentioned has nothing to do with them what a stupid article.

While I agree with you that it's a stupid article, it does have something to do with Essendon in that these spikes occurred after the drug saga at Essendon broke. The title should have read something like "spike in mainstream PEDS after drugs in sport saga" but adding essendon to the title sells more copy I guess.

 

[evo]

oompa loompa board

blackcat

 

[TerryWallet]

oompa loompa board

blackcat

His oompa's only come out after midnight

 

[cfc to aufc]

In adult men, side-effects of steroid use include breast growth, shrunken testicles and hair loss. Women can sprout facial hair and acquire a deeper voice.

geez a bloke (and a woman for that matter) must have big balls to take on this type of risk

 

[jenny61_99]

geez a bloke (and a woman for that matter) must have big balls to take on this type of risk

clearly not.

 

[yaco55]

Dank was never at Geelong.

Dank was an unofficial consultant.

 

[Grin]

Footballers are role models for some and there is no doubt that Essendon players got very big very quickly. It's very obvious why some people might want to follow the example set by these professional elite sportsmen. I can't see why that fairly simple and obvious concept is so offensive to Essendon supporters.

Looks like they're holding the company line: It's all the media's fault and Essendon is the victim in all of this

 

[I Rock]

Dank was an unofficial consultant.

So never officially employed by Geelong then?

 

[MaddAdam]

Insert Essendon reference, win Walkley. Reminds me of this twitter exchange..

1. Rohan Connolly ‏@rohan_connolly
   
   31 Dec​
   Cant understand why people think newspapers are struggling when second lead item currently on Herald-Sun website is "Man has piss on train".

Follow​

auskadi‏@auskadi
@rohan_connolly if it was in the age and said essendon man ... It would win a Walkley

Good old auskadi. No skin in the game.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

So never officially employed by Geelong then?

Robinson was the strength and conditioning coach at Geelong. He wasn't involved in anything Dank got up to at Cronulla and Essendon.

Robinson's comments at the time about Dank was just pumping up Dank's tyres. That's how I read it.

 

[I Rock]

Robinson was the strength and conditioning coach at Geelong. He wasn't involved in anything Dank got up to at Cronulla and Essendon.

Robinson's comments at the time about Dank was just pumping up Dank's tyres. That's how I read it.

How I understood it, Weapon just used to get on the blower to Dank at times for chats. However Dank never had an "official" involvement at the cattery.