Athletics faces new doping crisis after ‘biggest leak’ of test results

[Rich]

From The Guardian:

http://gu.com/p/4b755?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Athletics is facing another doping crisis after what is claimed to be the biggest ever leak of blood-test data revealed a third of medals, including 55 golds, in endurance events at Olympics and world championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who recorded suspicious tests.


The will of athletes to win will never fade, nor will the propensity to do whatever possible in order to win. The bit that stuck out for me is the percentage of endurance athletes - exactly the demographic that we as AFL fans must be hoping are clean in our small world. How depressing...

 

[HTPunter]

This is why I laugh at Olympians who whinge about the AFL's testing regime.

You ain't going to get caught if you have some very strong science behind you. Armstrong only ever turned in 1 positive test (pretty sure it was 1, and it was covered up) despite the amount of doping and tests he did.

 

[jenny61_99]

It's why I stopped watching the Olympics after the Sydney games. And even then I had been losing interest since 1984. I just really hope we can keep some semblance of honesty within the afl. Not terribly confident however.

 

[Aussie in exile]

This is why I laugh at Olympians who whinge about the AFL's testing regime.

You ain't going to get caught if you have some very strong science behind you. Armstrong only ever turned in 1 positive test (pretty sure it was 1, and it was covered up) despite the amount of doping and tests he did.

I'm not sure the Olympics has a 3 strike drug rule does it?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Who wants to bet the sanctimonious whinging from the Australian Olympics athletes towards essendon will suddenly immediately cease?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I'm not sure the Olympics has a 3 strike drug rule does it?

Try to understand the subject matter and don't confuse your policies maybe?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

At least there's one thing we've learned. Elite athletes dope no matter who they are or where they come from, except in afl where it's confined almost entirely to one team out of 18

 

[Aussie in exile]

At least there's one thing we've learned. Elite athletes dope no matter who they are or where they come from, except in afl where it's confined almost entirely to one team out of 18

At long last you've admitted it

 

[Rich]

Who wants to bet the sanctimonious whinging from the Australian Olympics athletes towards essendon will suddenly immediately cease?

There was a recent kerfuffle involving Russian athletics doping wasn't there?

Found it....http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/31485481


Wow, this new episode isn't what the IOC would be wishing for only a year out from Rio. More from ABC..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-02/russian-kenyan-athletes-face-new-doping-allegations/6666014

Athletics faces scandal as leaked drug test results prompt experts to compare sport to cycling 20 years ago

 

[DERIBERATE]

This is why I laugh at Olympians who whinge about the AFL's testing regime.

You ain't going to get caught if you have some very strong science behind you. Armstrong only ever turned in 1 positive test (pretty sure it was 1, and it was covered up) despite the amount of doping and tests he did.

More than science with Armstrong. Sheer attention to detail. He knew when testers were in the area, he knew when to dive for the fridge and get a bag of last month's piss out, or last week's blood to put back in.

 

[pie machine]

It's why I stopped watching the Olympics after the Sydney games. And even then I had been losing interest since 1984. I just really hope we can keep some semblance of honesty within the afl. Not terribly confident however.

That ship has sailed

 

[Armchair Critic]

It's why I stopped watching the Olympics after the Sydney games. And even then I had been losing interest since 1984. I just really hope we can keep some semblance of honesty within the afl. Not terribly confident however.

If you are going to stop watching the Olympics because of PED's then you really should just give up on sport .

 

[Armchair Critic]

At least there's one thing we've learned. Elite athletes dope no matter who they are or where they come from, except in afl where it's confined almost entirely to one team out of 18

I don't get the argument, in reality it is the opposite. Essendon fans think they didn't dope but everyone else was

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I don't get the argument, in reality it is the opposite. Essendon fans think they didn't dope but everyone else was

Some do. But don't try and tell me the overwhelming opinion of this board is that essendon are dirty rotten cheats but my team is clean

 

[Laphroaig]

Who wants to bet the sanctimonious whinging from the Australian Olympics athletes towards essendon will suddenly immediately cease?

This is possible.

Sadly the sanctimonious whinging from Essendon seems likely to be with us for a long time.

By the way. Which of the athletes in question have been found guilty of doping? From "suspicious" tests.

 

[Laphroaig]

Some do. But don't try and tell me the overwhelming opinion of this board is that essendon are dirty rotten cheats but my team is clean

No, I think the attitude is that Essendon are dirty rotten cheats. About the rest, we don't know.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Who wants to bet the sanctimonious whinging from the Australian Olympics athletes towards essendon will suddenly immediately cease?

Didn't it say medal winners?

Doesn't that rule out most Aussie athletes?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Didn't it say medal winners?

Doesn't that rule out most Aussie athletes?

heh probably, but anyway Aussies don't cheat

 

[Armchair Critic]

Some do. But don't try and tell me the overwhelming opinion of this board is that essendon are dirty rotten cheats but my team is clean

I agree some no doubt do and will retract my statement. I also believe that a lot of people are just naïve and have no idea how entrenched in sport doping actually is.

You just have to look at how many clubs Dank had associations within the AFL, NRL to see it is no different than the rest of world sport.

 

[Armchair Critic]

 

[Aussie in exile]

No, I think the attitude is that Essendon are dirty rotten cheats. About the rest, we don't know.

I just wish that the bombers fans would answer my question as to how did the Essendon club lost the paperwork that showed the substances the players were injected with were legal.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I just wish that the bombers fans would answer my question as to how did the Essendon club lost the paperwork that showed the substances the players were injected with were legal.

And how do you expect "bombers fans" to know exactly? Cos that's not just totally stupid or anything

 

[FFC_RoyBoys]

At least there's one thing we've learned. Elite athletes dope no matter who they are or where they come from, except in afl where it's confined almost entirely to one team out of 18

Well there is piss taking of course. Apart from that, only the willfully blind believe doping is restricted to EFC.

 

[NoAFLinmycomp]

Some do. But don't try and tell me the overwhelming opinion of this board is that essendon are dirty rotten cheats but my team is clean

I'm guilty of thinking that - only my team isn't in the AFL!

Probably only because they don't have enough $ anymore, to invest in a cutting edge supplements programs!

 

[Slax]

It's why I stopped watching the Olympics after the Sydney games. And even then I had been losing interest since 1984. I just really hope we can keep some semblance of honesty within the afl. Not terribly confident however.

Carl Lewis returned more positive drug tests than Ben Johnson, only difference one was American the other Canadian.