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NSW academies help Victorian clubs: Giants

Every time we get a NSW or Canberra boy onto our list it means that it effectively deepens the (draft) pool and frees up more Victorian (players) for Victorian clubs
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GREATER Western Sydney's list concessions don't give the emerging club an unfair advantage, Giants CEO Dave Matthews says.

A number of Victorian clubs are angry that the Giants are gaining access to talented youngsters in the traditional AFL heartland of the Riverina because they are being filtered into the club's academy and then developed in-house.

Under the concessions, the Giants – who have 22 first-round draft picks and six academy players on their list this season – are given first access to the leading players in the club's zone in the draft.

In the wake of the Giants' 75-point thrashing of Collingwood last weekend, Magpies president Eddie McGuire used his radio program to plead with the AFL to put a cap on the amount of young talent available to GWS through its academy system, in particular from the talent-rich Riverina.

Matthews said the success of the academy systems were in the best interests of the competition.

"I think that's in the interest of the growth of the game in NSW and ACT that the Giants are playing the role, just like Collingwood and other clubs, to try to stimulate areas that have been under producing," Matthews told SEN.

"At the present time we're seeing players coming out of the Riverina and the Murray, which is fantastic, but those players are only ever going to get listed according to the bidding system."

The AFL introduced its new father-son and northern academies bidding system prior to last year's draft, which was designed to ensure clubs pay closer to market value for draftees.

Matthews said the club's list concessions "deepen the draft pool".

"It's good for the game that there's talent coming out of NSW – that's the overall objective," he said.

"I think what gets lost is there's a bidding system in place to make sure that any of the young talent coming through is listed at fair value.

"It's fairly simple for me; every time we get a NSW or Canberra boy onto our list it means that it effectively deepens the (draft) pool and frees up more Victorian (players) for Victorian clubs."

Sydney Swans defender Ted Richards also defended the northern academies, saying the club would have lost star youngster Isaac Heeney to rugby league if they had not been in place.

Heeney is one of the leading graduates out of the Swans' academy and an up and coming star of the competition.

"It's pretty biased to only view them as a feeder for the Swans or whatever team," Richards told RSN927.

"They're actually a great carrot for young kids to retain talent and stay in the AFL world when they're 15, 16 or 17.

"There's a reason why Isaac Heeney didn't go to the NRL and stayed with the AFL at the age of 15 and that's because of the academies."
 

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  • Seven months of work is still to be done on the 2016 National Draft, but with each passing week the class starts to take shape.

Over the past six weeks, countless hours have been spent watching trials and early season matches either live or on tape, but before we get into the first 2016 edition, here is what the corresponding version looked like just over 12 months ago.

We had Callum Mills at No. 1; Jacob Hopper at No. 2; Charlie Curnow at No. 3; Jacob Weitering at No. 4; and Josh Schache at No. 9. Our only top-10 player who wound up outside the top 15 on draft night was our early No.5 Darcy Tucker (taken at Pick 27 by Fremantle).

This year you could throw a blanket over the top 10 prospects, so it looks less predictable. As the season progresses, it’s a given that some players will rise up into the rankings (Clayton Oliver and Matt Kennedy last year) while others will drop out.

This is not a mock draft, purely how I rate the prospects so far.

1. Jack BOWES
Ht: 188cm | Wt: 76kg | Surfers Paradise/Gold Coast Academy
Classy ball winner from Cairns who is good overhead for his size and can push forward and hit the scoreboard. He booted four goals to go with 25 touches for the Suns reserves in a trial against Brisbane last month. Has plenty of time in traffic and is clean with his hands. Missed the championships last year after hurting his knee, but will figure heavily for Queensland and the Allies this time around.

2. Harrison MACREADIE
Ht: 195cm | Wt: 82kg | Henty/GWS Academy
Macreadie looked as cool as a cucumber in the back half for the Rams in the national championships last year as a bottom-ager to stamp himself as one of this year’s top prospects. He generally uses the ball well exiting defence, reads it well in the air and has played senior football in the Hume league since he was 16. Has played a bit on a wing and even in centre bounces in recent weeks in the TAC Cup.

3. Hugh McCLUGGAGE
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 70kg | North Ballarat Rebels
Missed a bit of pre-season so he is still working towards full match fitness, but his form in the AFL Academy games and to start the season with the Rebels has been eye-catching. Time can seem to stand still when he has the ball in congestion, he makes great decisions and is brave overhead. Kicked five goals on the weekend to go with 30-plus touches showing that he can also hit the scoreboard from midfield.

4. Ben AINSWORTH
Ht: 179cm | Wt: 74kg | Gippsland Power
Played mostly as a small forward for Gippsland and Vic Country last year as a bottom-ager and was rewarded with All-Australian selection (booted 15 goals in six games). Has planned to move into the midfield on a more regular basis in 2016, which will add another string to his bow. Tweaked his knee in Round 1 of the TAC Cup and was reported on the weekend for two striking incidents so will miss the next four games – including the championships opener.

5. Sam PETREVSKI-SETON
Ht: 179cm | Wt: 70kg | Claremont
Considered “Cyril #2” by some recruiters with the way he can dance through traffic and make the ball talk. Petrevski-Seton (above) comes from Halls Creek in the East Kimberley region and kicks as well on his left side as he does on his natural right. Plays mostly at half forward but can go through midfield and won the Kevin Sheehan Medal for best player in the under-16 carnival in 2014.

6. Will BRODIE
Ht: 189cm | Wt: 82kg | Murray Bushrangers
A running midfielder who has clearly worked hard in the gym over summer and added some size across his chest and shoulders. The AFL Academy’s best player in both outings against VFL opponents (Werribee and Geelong) and averaged 19.8 disposals last year in the TAC Cup and 15.6 in the national championships. Resembles Port Adelaide’s Brad Ebert with his physique and the way he moves.

7. Daniel VENABLES
Ht: 186cm | Wt: 81kg | Western Jets
Venables is a powerful midfielder who can also play in attack. He makes things happen when he is around the ball with his burst from congestion and line-breaking carry. He has averaged nearly five inside-50s a game in his short TAC Cup career. A broken leg last season restricted him to just four games as a bottom-ager but has started the season in good touch with the Jets and PEGS despite a minor knee complaint.

8. Will SETTERFIELD
Ht: 190cm | Wt: 79kg | Sandringham Dragons/GWS Academy
The Albury native relocated to Melbourne as a 15-year-old and attends Caulfield Grammar. He is a smooth moving midfielder who is now up to 190cm and might still have a bit more growing in him—cue comparisons to Marcus Bontempelli—but in reality he is a different type to the Bulldog star. A quiet country kid at heart and ticks all the boxes with his professionalism.

9. Josh ROTHAM
Ht: 192cm | Wt: 82kg | West Perth
Athletic hybrid defender who is composed with ball in hand. A good organiser in the back half and knows when to leave an opponent to get involved in transition from defence to attack. Still slender but has huge scope for improvement with the potential to push up into midfield. May even wind up as the first Western Australian picked in November.

10. Harry PERRYMAN
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 75kg | Collingullie/GWS Academy
Smart mid/forward who played at half back last year, so has great versatility. He isn't overly quick but always gets to the ball first where he has great ball control and balance on both sides. Played alongside GWS’s Matt Kennedy in the seniors at Collingullie for the past two seasons, booting four goals in last year’s grand final and among the best in the 2014 decider as a 16-year-old. Great to watch each week.

11. Jarrod BERRY
Ht: 191cm | Wt: 80kg | North Ballarat Rebels
The North Ballarat skipper played in last year’s national championships for Vic Country as a bottom-ager across half back and quickly emerged as a player to watch for 2016 averaging 19 disposals and four rebounds per game and was named All-Australian. He has all the athletic and personality traits you look for in an early draftee but his kicking does need some work.

12. Jacob ALLISON
Ht: 193cm | Wt: 73kg | Aspley/Brisbane Academy
Allison is an athletic utility who caught the eye playing with Queensland last year as a bottom-ager at the national championships where he averaged 18 disposals and six marks and four inside-50s. He is a hard runner who can break the lines and kicks the ball with good penetration, but can spray a few. Played five games for the Lions reserves in the NEAFL in 2015 and held his own against the mature bodies.

13. Jy SIMPKIN
Ht: 182cm | Wt: 72kg | Murray Bushrangers
Unfortunately for Simpkin he broke his leg playing for Scotch College in mid-April and will miss the season, however clubs have enough information on him. He is smart in traffic, makes things happen when he has the ball in his hands and an uncanny knack for knowing where the big sticks are. Played mostly as a small forward in 2015 with an eye on a move into the midfield this year.

14. Tim ENGLISH
Ht: 203cm | Wt: 86kg | South Fremantle
A long-term ruck prospect who’s form in the WAFL Colts has been strong having come in as a 19-year-old. He is averaging 26 hit-outs (24 per cent to advantage). He shows good touch at the stoppages with his hits where he can go forward, back, 9 o’clock and 3 o’clock, and he can get involved around the ground, displaying good kicking skills for a player of his size, and is a capable tackler.

15. Todd MARSHALL
Ht: 197cm | Wt: 87kg | Murray Bushrangers/GWS Academy
The former cricketer has turned his sights to footy and quickly caught the eye of scouts in matches with the Bushrangers and Giants reserves in the NEAFL. He is lightly framed but knows where to run and shows good speed to separate from defenders and a good kicking technique. Having come into the system so late, he has plenty of areas to work on, but his upside is big.

16. Joseph ATLEY
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 80kg | Bendigo Pioneers
The brother of North Melbourne’s Shaun is a clearance-winning machine. A different body type to his more athletic brother, but still covers the ground well and his work in close is his main strength. Some 62 per cent of his possessions this season with the Pioneers have been contested, and he is averaging five clearances and four inside-50s a game.

17. Kym LEBOIS
Ht: 174cm | Wt: 65kg | North Adelaide
Hailing from Ceduna, Lebois (above) is a small left footer is blessed with silky skills and the rare ability to turn an opponent inside out within three or four steps. He is the nephew of Aaron and Alwyn Davey and shares similar exciting traits as a small forward and creative midfielder where he is averaging 15 disposals and five inside-50s in the SANFL Under 18s and reserves this year.

18. Brad SCHEER
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 82kg | Palm Beach Currumbin/Gold Coast Academy
Scheer is a physical midfielder who likes the crash and bash. He was named the best Division 2 player at the 2014 Under 16 championships and has been a member of the AFL Academy for two years. Having already tasted senior football in the NEAFL with the Suns reserves (averaged 13 disposals in six matches), he is one of the more physically advanced midfielders in this year’s crop.

19. Shai BOLTON
Ht: 177cm | Wt: 67kg | South Fremantle
A bouncy and exuberant small forward with a bag full of tricks who has started the season in blistering form for the Bulldogs in the WAFL colts. He is a willing tackler inside forward 50 but cat-like at ground level. He also has a great leap – he can sit on your head, and hunts the ball when it hits the deck. He just needs to work on his consistency.

20. Alex WITHERDEN
Ht: 186cm | Wt: 80kg | Geelong Falcons
The St Joseph’s product is just a solid citizen across half back, but he does have the scope to press into midfield as the year progresses to add another dimension to his game. He was a consistent performer last season as a bottom-ager showing good courage in the air, composure with ball in hand and a strong defensive game.

❚ On the watch list:
Andrew McGrath (Sandringham Dragons), Brandon Parfitt (North Adelaide), Calvin Thorne (Peel Thunder), Declan Watson (Aspley/Brisbane Lions Academy), Harrison Bult (Western Jets), Harry Morrison (Murray Bushrangers), Jack Henry (Geelong Falcons), Jack Scrimshaw (Sandringham Dragons), Jonty Scharenberg (Glenelg), Jordan Gallucci (Eastern Ranges), Josh Battle (Dandenong Stingrays), Josh Williams (Surfers Paradise/Gold Coast Academy), Judah Dundon (Western Jets), Kobe Mutch (Bendigo Pioneers/GWS Academy), Max Lynch (Murray Bushrangers/GWS Academy), Oscar Junker (Western Jets), Reece Piper (Dandenong Stingrays), Ryan Garthwaite (Murray Bushrangers), Sam McLarty (Oakleigh Chargers), Tim Taranto (Sandringham Dragons), Willem Drew (North Ballarat Rebels).


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  • Seven months of work is still to be done on the 2016 National Draft, but with each passing week the class starts to take shape.
Over the past six weeks, countless hours have been spent watching trials and early season matches either live or on tape, but before we get into the first 2016 edition, here is what the corresponding version looked like just over 12 months ago.

We had Callum Mills at No. 1; Jacob Hopper at No. 2; Charlie Curnow at No. 3; Jacob Weitering at No. 4; and Josh Schache at No. 9. Our only top-10 player who wound up outside the top 15 on draft night was our early No.5 Darcy Tucker (taken at Pick 27 by Fremantle).

This year you could throw a blanket over the top 10 prospects, so it looks less predictable. As the season progresses, it’s a given that some players will rise up into the rankings (Clayton Oliver and Matt Kennedy last year) while others will drop out.

This is not a mock draft, purely how I rate the prospects so far.

1. Jack BOWES
Ht: 188cm | Wt: 76kg | Surfers Paradise/Gold Coast Academy
Classy ball winner from Cairns who is good overhead for his size and can push forward and hit the scoreboard. He booted four goals to go with 25 touches for the Suns reserves in a trial against Brisbane last month. Has plenty of time in traffic and is clean with his hands. Missed the championships last year after hurting his knee, but will figure heavily for Queensland and the Allies this time around.

2. Harrison MACREADIE
Ht: 195cm | Wt: 82kg | Henty/GWS Academy
Macreadie looked as cool as a cucumber in the back half for the Rams in the national championships last year as a bottom-ager to stamp himself as one of this year’s top prospects. He generally uses the ball well exiting defence, reads it well in the air and has played senior football in the Hume league since he was 16. Has played a bit on a wing and even in centre bounces in recent weeks in the TAC Cup.

3. Hugh McCLUGGAGE
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 70kg | North Ballarat Rebels
Missed a bit of pre-season so he is still working towards full match fitness, but his form in the AFL Academy games and to start the season with the Rebels has been eye-catching. Time can seem to stand still when he has the ball in congestion, he makes great decisions and is brave overhead. Kicked five goals on the weekend to go with 30-plus touches showing that he can also hit the scoreboard from midfield.

4. Ben AINSWORTH
Ht: 179cm | Wt: 74kg | Gippsland Power
Played mostly as a small forward for Gippsland and Vic Country last year as a bottom-ager and was rewarded with All-Australian selection (booted 15 goals in six games). Has planned to move into the midfield on a more regular basis in 2016, which will add another string to his bow. Tweaked his knee in Round 1 of the TAC Cup and was reported on the weekend for two striking incidents so will miss the next four games – including the championships opener.

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5. Sam PETREVSKI-SETON

Ht: 179cm | Wt: 70kg | Claremont
Considered “Cyril #2” by some recruiters with the way he can dance through traffic and make the ball talk. Petrevski-Seton (above) comes from Halls Creek in the East Kimberley region and kicks as well on his left side as he does on his natural right. Plays mostly at half forward but can go through midfield and won the Kevin Sheehan Medal for best player in the under-16 carnival in 2014.

6. Will BRODIE
Ht: 189cm | Wt: 82kg | Murray Bushrangers
A running midfielder who has clearly worked hard in the gym over summer and added some size across his chest and shoulders. The AFL Academy’s best player in both outings against VFL opponents (Werribee and Geelong) and averaged 19.8 disposals last year in the TAC Cup and 15.6 in the national championships. Resembles Port Adelaide’s Brad Ebert with his physique and the way he moves.

7. Daniel VENABLES
Ht: 186cm | Wt: 81kg | Western Jets
Venables is a powerful midfielder who can also play in attack. He makes things happen when he is around the ball with his burst from congestion and line-breaking carry. He has averaged nearly five inside-50s a game in his short TAC Cup career. A broken leg last season restricted him to just four games as a bottom-ager but has started the season in good touch with the Jets and PEGS despite a minor knee complaint.

8. Will SETTERFIELD
Ht: 190cm | Wt: 79kg | Sandringham Dragons/GWS Academy
The Albury native relocated to Melbourne as a 15-year-old and attends Caulfield Grammar. He is a smooth moving midfielder who is now up to 190cm and might still have a bit more growing in him—cue comparisons to Marcus Bontempelli—but in reality he is a different type to the Bulldog star. A quiet country kid at heart and ticks all the boxes with his professionalism.

9. Josh ROTHAM
Ht: 192cm | Wt: 82kg | West Perth
Athletic hybrid defender who is composed with ball in hand. A good organiser in the back half and knows when to leave an opponent to get involved in transition from defence to attack. Still slender but has huge scope for improvement with the potential to push up into midfield. May even wind up as the first Western Australian picked in November.

10. Harry PERRYMAN
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 75kg | Collingullie/GWS Academy
Smart mid/forward who played at half back last year, so has great versatility. He isn't overly quick but always gets to the ball first where he has great ball control and balance on both sides. Played alongside GWS’s Matt Kennedy in the seniors at Collingullie for the past two seasons, booting four goals in last year’s grand final and among the best in the 2014 decider as a 16-year-old. Great to watch each week.

11. Jarrod BERRY
Ht: 191cm | Wt: 80kg | North Ballarat Rebels
The North Ballarat skipper played in last year’s national championships for Vic Country as a bottom-ager across half back and quickly emerged as a player to watch for 2016 averaging 19 disposals and four rebounds per game and was named All-Australian. He has all the athletic and personality traits you look for in an early draftee but his kicking does need some work.

12. Jacob ALLISON
Ht: 193cm | Wt: 73kg | Aspley/Brisbane Academy
Allison is an athletic utility who caught the eye playing with Queensland last year as a bottom-ager at the national championships where he averaged 18 disposals and six marks and four inside-50s. He is a hard runner who can break the lines and kicks the ball with good penetration, but can spray a few. Played five games for the Lions reserves in the NEAFL in 2015 and held his own against the mature bodies.

13. Jy SIMPKIN
Ht: 182cm | Wt: 72kg | Murray Bushrangers
Unfortunately for Simpkin he broke his leg playing for Scotch College in mid-April and will miss the season, however clubs have enough information on him. He is smart in traffic, makes things happen when he has the ball in his hands and an uncanny knack for knowing where the big sticks are. Played mostly as a small forward in 2015 with an eye on a move into the midfield this year.

14. Tim ENGLISH
Ht: 203cm | Wt: 86kg | South Fremantle
A long-term ruck prospect who’s form in the WAFL Colts has been strong having come in as a 19-year-old. He is averaging 26 hit-outs (24 per cent to advantage). He shows good touch at the stoppages with his hits where he can go forward, back, 9 o’clock and 3 o’clock, and he can get involved around the ground, displaying good kicking skills for a player of his size, and is a capable tackler.

15. Todd MARSHALL
Ht: 197cm | Wt: 87kg | Murray Bushrangers/GWS Academy
The former cricketer has turned his sights to footy and quickly caught the eye of scouts in matches with the Bushrangers and Giants reserves in the NEAFL. He is lightly framed but knows where to run and shows good speed to separate from defenders and a good kicking technique. Having come into the system so late, he has plenty of areas to work on, but his upside is big.

16. Joseph ATLEY
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 80kg | Bendigo Pioneers
The brother of North Melbourne’s Shaun is a clearance-winning machine. A different body type to his more athletic brother, but still covers the ground well and his work in close is his main strength. Some 62 per cent of his possessions this season with the Pioneers have been contested, and he is averaging five clearances and four inside-50s a game.



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17. Kym LEBOIS
Ht: 174cm | Wt: 65kg | North Adelaide
Hailing from Ceduna, Lebois (above) is a small left footer is blessed with silky skills and the rare ability to turn an opponent inside out within three or four steps. He is the nephew of Aaron and Alwyn Davey and shares similar exciting traits as a small forward and creative midfielder where he is averaging 15 disposals and five inside-50s in the SANFL Under 18s and reserves this year.

18. Brad SCHEER
Ht: 184cm | Wt: 82kg | Palm Beach Currumbin/Gold Coast Academy
Scheer is a physical midfielder who likes the crash and bash. He was named the best Division 2 player at the 2014 Under 16 championships and has been a member of the AFL Academy for two years. Having already tasted senior football in the NEAFL with the Suns reserves (averaged 13 disposals in six matches), he is one of the more physically advanced midfielders in this year’s crop.

19. Shai BOLTON
Ht: 177cm | Wt: 67kg | South Fremantle
A bouncy and exuberant small forward with a bag full of tricks who has started the season in blistering form for the Bulldogs in the WAFL colts. He is a willing tackler inside forward 50 but cat-like at ground level. He also has a great leap – he can sit on your head, and hunts the ball when it hits the deck. He just needs to work on his consistency.

20. Alex WITHERDEN
Ht: 186cm | Wt: 80kg | Geelong Falcons
The St Joseph’s product is just a solid citizen across half back, but he does have the scope to press into midfield as the year progresses to add another dimension to his game. He was a consistent performer last season as a bottom-ager showing good courage in the air, composure with ball in hand and a strong defensive game.

❚ On the watch list:
Andrew McGrath (Sandringham Dragons), Brandon Parfitt (North Adelaide), Calvin Thorne (Peel Thunder), Declan Watson (Aspley/Brisbane Lions Academy), Harrison Bult (Western Jets), Harry Morrison (Murray Bushrangers), Jack Henry (Geelong Falcons), Jack Scrimshaw (Sandringham Dragons), Jonty Scharenberg (Glenelg), Jordan Gallucci (Eastern Ranges), Josh Battle (Dandenong Stingrays), Josh Williams (Surfers Paradise/Gold Coast Academy), Judah Dundon (Western Jets), Kobe Mutch (Bendigo Pioneers/GWS Academy), Max Lynch (Murray Bushrangers/GWS Academy), Oscar Junker (Western Jets), Reece Piper (Dandenong Stingrays), Ryan Garthwaite (Murray Bushrangers), Sam McLarty (Oakleigh Chargers), Tim Taranto (Sandringham Dragons), Willem Drew (North Ballarat Rebels).


Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/05-16/afl-draft-academy-stars-top-first-big-board#Q1Rq49ZTIV63CXFD.99


7 of the top 20 expected to go to academy sides...
 

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What if North want Spargo not a F/S, Blakey and Longmire. And bid for them. But can't have them cause they academy players?. Could this happen. They would of played AFL even without the academies.
 
What if North want Spargo not a F/S, Blakey and Longmire. And bid for them. But can't have them cause they academy players?. Could this happen. They would of played AFL even without the academies.
Well we can't get Spargo under the current F/S rules however the other two would have to agree to come to us. Blakey is eligible for North and Brisbane for F/S, Sydney (academy) and Longmire, North (F/S) and Sydney (Academy).
 

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Well we can't get Spargo under the current F/S rules however the other two would have to agree to come to us. Blakey is eligible for North and Brisbane for F/S, Sydney (academy) and Longmire, North (F/S) and Sydney (Academy).
Leigh Matthews for the muppet he is, along with Mick Malthouse were asked post coaching retirements what type of football person they were.
For Lethal they argued Brisbane heavily. Maybe the Pies. Malthouse was thrown West Coast and Collingwood too.
Matthews said Hawthorn. Malthouse said Richmond. Lethal said you never forget where you hurt. Where you put the boots on.
If Horse and Blakey are the North men we know they are, then their boys are only going to one club.
 
Leigh Matthews for the muppet he is, along with Mick Malthouse were asked post coaching retirements what type of football person they were.
For Lethal they argued Brisbane heavily. Maybe the Pies. Malthouse was thrown West Coast and Collingwood too.
Matthews said Hawthorn. Malthouse said Richmond. Lethal said you never forget where you hurt. Where you put the boots on.
If Horse and Blakey are the North men we know they are, then their boys are only going to one club.

We hope so. Thing is, will they convince them to go to where your old man works now or where your old man worked before?
 
We hope so. Thing is, will they convince them to go to where your old man works now or where your old man worked before?
What troubles me is how both families are settled in Sydney.
Tho I recall Donald moving out of footy and into commercial operations when Luke was drafted. Maybe Horse and Blakey dont want their boys under their tutelage at the Swans?
 

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I hope our recruiters just bring the best footballers they can. Don't care whether it's Joseph Atley or Longmire jr.


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Victorian clubs score win: GWS Giants to miss out on academy prospect Todd Marshall
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  • by Jake Niall
  • Source: FOX SPORTS

THE campaign against Greater Western Sydney’s academy and zone has scored an apparent victory with the Giants expected to lose rights to a highly-rated key position forward.

As rival clubs continue to make noise about the Giants’ recruiting allowances, the AFL is understood to have decided that Todd Marshall, a 198cm key forward from Murray Bushrangers likened to Tom Boyd, will be excluded from GWS’s bidding process and therefore be available to all clubs in the national draft.

The loss of Marshall, who was zoned to the Giants because he is from Deniliquin, is comparable to Brisbane losing access to Nick Riewoldt in 2000 when the AFL ruled that the future champion did not fall inside a 20km zone. The promising Marshall is not considered a prospect anything like the Saints’ No. 1 pick but is considered a potential first round pick with significant upside.

The league’s position on Marshall is that he has not had sufficient involvement with the GWS academy given he’s spent the past two winters in England playing cricket and only recently appeared on GWS’s radar.

The AFL is meeting with the Giants on Friday in a gathering that is expected to deal with the contentious issue of their academy and zone and determine which players are eligible to be taken by the Giants through the bidding process.

While the Giants are expected to retain the Riverina district — which gives them access to likely top 10 pick Harrison McReadie and other highly-rated prospects — in the long run they are expected to relinquish NSW players from just over the border from towns such as Albury, Wentworth, Deniliquin and Broken Hill.

Recruiters want the situation clarified before the national Under 18 championships which start on Monday and will showcase many of the Giants prospects, hence the Friday meeting with the AFL.

The Giants are fiercely resisting the push from Victorian clubs, led by Collingwood’s Eddie McGuire, to loosen their hold on academy players from the current zone and are expected to retain those players — barring Marshall — who are already designated as academy players, even if they are from just north of the Murray river.

They are therefore likely to keep Will Setterfield, who is from Albury and boarding at Caulfield Grammar this year, another Albury prospect Zach Sproule and Kobe Mutch, who hails from Wentworth. But the prevailing view is that the Murray part of the zone will be phased out in the near future, on the grounds that this area is essentially AFL territory, while the Riverina is a region in which there is some competition with the rugby codes.

The comparison between Marshall and Nick Riewoldt rests on the fact that the AFL has again intervened and removed a key position prospect — albeit one without Riewoldt’s track record — from the zone of a northern market club, amid intense lobbying and complaints from rival clubs.

GWS chief executive David Matthews this week suggested that his former football boss Graeme Allan could ‘’educate’’ Eddie McGuire about the GWS academy situation given that Allan has rejoined Collingwood.

The AFL indicated earlier this week that it would review which territories would be included in the GWS academy, in a move that has foreshadowed the decision to remove Marshall from the Giants’ zone.
 
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I hate father son argument they bring up in defence of the academies.

Academies produce atleast 1 kid a year. Are they saying all the other 14 clubs get 1 FS draftee each year?! We'd be lucky to get 1 every 10 years FFS. FS picks are rare. GWS picked like 4 academy kids or something last year!

When was the last time a Richmond, St kilda or blues had a top 10 FS pick? People who thinks this is an argument for the academies have NFI.

Just get rid of the 20% discount gws get and make it 10% for the rest.
 
Feb 19, 2016
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I hate father son argument they bring up in defence of the academies.

Academies produce atleast 1 kid a year. Are they saying all the other 14 clubs get 1 FS draftee each year?! We'd be lucky to get 1 every 10 years FFS. FS picks are rare. GWS picked like 4 academy kids or something last year!

When was the last time a Richmond, St kilda or blues had a top 10 FS pick? People who thinks this is an argument for the academies have NFI.

Just get rid of the 20% discount gws get and make it 10% for the rest.
Buckley for Blues a few years ago.
 

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-...ctorian-players-says-giants-ceo-dave-matthews


NSW academies help Victorian clubs: Giants

Every time we get a NSW or Canberra boy onto our list it means that it effectively deepens the (draft) pool and frees up more Victorian (players) for Victorian clubs
Dave Matthews
GREATER Western Sydney's list concessions don't give the emerging club an unfair advantage, Giants CEO Dave Matthews says.

A number of Victorian clubs are angry that the Giants are gaining access to talented youngsters in the traditional AFL heartland of the Riverina because they are being filtered into the club's academy and then developed in-house.

Under the concessions, the Giants – who have 22 first-round draft picks and six academy players on their list this season – are given first access to the leading players in the club's zone in the draft.

In the wake of the Giants' 75-point thrashing of Collingwood last weekend, Magpies president Eddie McGuire used his radio program to plead with the AFL to put a cap on the amount of young talent available to GWS through its academy system, in particular from the talent-rich Riverina.

Matthews said the success of the academy systems were in the best interests of the competition.

"I think that's in the interest of the growth of the game in NSW and ACT that the Giants are playing the role, just like Collingwood and other clubs, to try to stimulate areas that have been under producing," Matthews told SEN.

"At the present time we're seeing players coming out of the Riverina and the Murray, which is fantastic, but those players are only ever going to get listed according to the bidding system."

The AFL introduced its new father-son and northern academies bidding system prior to last year's draft, which was designed to ensure clubs pay closer to market value for draftees.

Matthews said the club's list concessions "deepen the draft pool".

"It's good for the game that there's talent coming out of NSW – that's the overall objective," he said.

"I think what gets lost is there's a bidding system in place to make sure that any of the young talent coming through is listed at fair value.

"It's fairly simple for me; every time we get a NSW or Canberra boy onto our list it means that it effectively deepens the (draft) pool and frees up more Victorian (players) for Victorian clubs."

Sydney Swans defender Ted Richards also defended the northern academies, saying the club would have lost star youngster Isaac Heeney to rugby league if they had not been in place.

Heeney is one of the leading graduates out of the Swans' academy and an up and coming star of the competition.

"It's pretty biased to only view them as a feeder for the Swans or whatever team," Richards told RSN927.

"They're actually a great carrot for young kids to retain talent and stay in the AFL world when they're 15, 16 or 17.

"There's a reason why Isaac Heeney didn't go to the NRL and stayed with the AFL at the age of 15 and that's because of the academies."
What type of ******* logic is this? It might mean more Victorian kids get drafted, but they're going to be rookie list picks and not at the level of the players that get handed to the academy clubs on a silver platter.
 

czero

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If you had a talented 14 yo son, would you perhaps even consider moving to NSW to get him into one of the acadamies? Less competition, more support and a more likely chance to get drafted higher... Would families start considering that? It would certainly fly in the face of developing local talent.
 

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