Lin Jong - Where do we go to from here

[Mattdougie]

HAHA look at you continuing to make this thread about me

Blah blah no logic your right I'm wrong blah blah

The irony is strong just too stoopid to see it but keep blaming me for continuing when you all refer to me in your posts

Hahahaha he is shite end discussion

 

[BRWB]

HAHA look at you continuing romaji this thread about me

Blah blah no logic your righty I'm wrong blah blah

The irony is strong just too stoopid to see it

Saying we'd be better off playing 21 rather than Jong is stupid. You are the only person saying that. Even me, who doesn't rate Jong thinks that. You do yourself a disservice with such statements IMO.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

HAHA look at you continuing to make this thread about me

Blah blah no logic your right I'm wrong blah blah

The irony is strong just too stoopid to see it but keep blaming me for continuing when you all refer to me in your posts

Hahahaha he is shite end discussion

Out of interest, and I'm aware this isn't completely relevant, but do you genuinely believe all your strong opinions? Or are you enjoying taking a devil's advocate position and are aware of the issues with your viewpoints?

It seems unlikely that you think in such stark terms where people or teams are completely shit or they aren't. Everything is so severe and categorical, and I'm not sure that you yourself believe the stuff you come out with. If you do, it seems to me that you simplifying things just to be comfortable. You don't have to rate something or someone when the issue isn't settled and the evidence isn't in for a final judgment. You can exist in a position of being unsure - and I suggest you try it.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Hahahaha he is shite end discussion

Do you mean it?

Please?

 

[Hoges64]

Do you mean it?

Please?

Is this where we ask for the Mods to do the word-change thingy so that everytime MD types the word "Jong", it revert back to MD? I'd like that very much.

 

[TiAn_]

HAHA look at you continuing to make this thread about me

Blah blah no logic your right I'm wrong blah blah

The irony is strong just too stoopid to see it but keep blaming me for continuing when you all refer to me in your posts

Hahahaha he is shite end discussion

If that's genuinely your view, then unfortunately you'll have to be the bigger man and avoid this topic altogether if you don't want your extreme views being discussed.

Repeatedly making outlandish comments (e.g. He's as useful as a bucket and we'd be better playing with 21) and calling people that disagree with you stupid runs counter to asking people to ignore you and "not make it about me". Likewise, posting along the lines "look at me not posting about Jong" frequently in Jong discussions should be avoided moving forward.

All the best.

 

[Unorth]

I think an integral part of this thread is being overlooked. What impact would playing a bucket have on our on field success?

I think the bucket would be most valued in defence. The bucket covering an opposition key forward would immediately solve our KPD issues. Jenkins doesn't kick 8 if he literally can't see due to there being a bucket on his head. Hurley who?

Of course it's all about whether we could fit a bucket under our cap. However, upon doing some research, getting a bucket would not greatly impact our cap space, on account of it costing only a couple of dollars from the reject shop. Safe gamble on our end.

And don't hold me to it, just what I've heard on the grapevine, but apparently the bucket was seen at the last Bulldogs home game saying, with tears in its eyes "just get me here". Looking more and more likely to eventuate.

Question is what are we prepared to give up for the bucket. A couple of rolls of sports tape? A 6 pack of orange gatorades? The ghost of Ayce Cordy's career? This is the hard part, have to be prepared to give something in order to get something.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

The key to the bucket's success is positioning. It. Has. To. Be. Perfect

 

[compact72]

**** me, why are you guys always attacking MD?

The guy doesn't rate Jong, simple as that. No need to argue, he's made his points, so move on and stop debating it with him.

 

[ringa5]

**** me, why are you guys always attacking MD?

The guy doesn't rate Jong, simple as that. No need to argue, he's made his points, so move on and stop debating it with him.

Because everyone is bored hearing it over and over.Facts are players coming back from injuries. Bev trying players to find best 22.Jong might not be in the 22.like Honeychurch we feel sorry but there's only 22 spots.So leave the boy alone.And let the coaches decide.

 

[Mattdougie]

Out of interest, and I'm aware this isn't completely relevant, but do you genuinely believe all your strong opinions? Or are you enjoying taking a devil's advocate position and are aware of the issues with your viewpoints?

It seems unlikely that you think in such stark terms where people or teams are completely shit or they aren't. Everything is so severe and categorical, and I'm not sure that you yourself believe the stuff you come out with. If you do, it seems to me that you simplifying things just to be comfortable. You don't have to rate something or someone when the issue isn't settled and the evidence isn't in for a final judgment. You can exist in a position of being unsure - and I suggest you try it.

Mate I genuinely dislike Jong as a footy player and am baffled he he gets a game but if these blokes can't see now that I'm simply pushing their buttons I really don't know what to say.

Look back and find the last time I bought Jong up without responding to someone having a swipe at me or putting my name in their post.
Go on have a look and find one where I've just whacked him out of the blue.

I've said the same thing for 3 years nothing has changed but people continue to try and change my mind? Look at the suns match day thread. 3 pages of Jong talk and not one comment from me. NOT ONE

But the Didley Dorights see someone bag Jong so they drag me in and now I just fan the flames. I don't even have to be part of the convo and someone has a crack at me.

The guy is a spud footy player I seriously laugh at those who think he isn't but that's their opinion I leave them to it why is everyone trying to change mine??

 

[Mattdougie]

Out of interest, and I'm aware this isn't completely relevant, but do you genuinely believe all your strong opinions? Or are you enjoying taking a devil's advocate position and are aware of the issues with your viewpoints?

It seems unlikely that you think in such stark terms where people or teams are completely shit or they aren't. Everything is so severe and categorical, and I'm not sure that you yourself believe the stuff you come out with. If you do, it seems to me that you simplifying things just to be comfortable. You don't have to rate something or someone when the issue isn't settled and the evidence isn't in for a final judgment. You can exist in a position of being unsure - and I suggest you try it.

And I don't say things I don't believe to "troll"

I'm honest and people hate honesty it's too confronting and the easily "offended" cry foul.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

**** me, why are you guys always attacking MD?

The guy doesn't rate Jong, simple as that. No need to argue, he's made his points, so move on and stop debating it with him.

Not sure about the others - but my comment was certainly not intended as an attack. Just interested in understanding his perspective.

 

[littlenails]

Mate it's pretty simple

I don't rate the bloke at all as best 40 let alone best 22.

He isn't an AFL footballer that will help us win finals. Neither is Honey Hrovat Roberts Prudden.

So cut them and try and find someone else who will.

That's my opinion and I don't care who it annoys.

Hi MD. I agree that Jong isn't an AFL footballer but we have to hold on to him for a while for depth. He is better than no-one at all though.

Honey, Hrovat, Roberts and Prudden as you have above are not AFL quality. You can add Hamilton and Hamling to that list too. Zaine Cordy better start doing a lot more or he will end up on my list too.

As someone else pointed out in a post above, its a matter of opportunity cost.

The concept of Opportunity Cost is super important and can win or lose a premiership.

An opportunity cost is the cost of an alternative that must be forgone in order to pursue a certain action. Put another way, the benefits you could have received by taking an alternative action.

In other words again, if you don't sack Jong (who will never help you win a premiership), then that will mean you will not be able recruit Tommy Superdooper who will turn out to be another Chris Grant.

I wonder what our recruiters think?

 

[BEaston]

HAHA look at you continuing to make this thread about me

Blah blah no logic your right I'm wrong blah blah

The irony is strong just too stoopid to see it but keep blaming me for continuing when you all refer to me in your posts

Hahahaha he is shite end discussion

See I told you guys how to have this "discussion". See above. Just yell louder, forget anything resembling an intelligent discourse.

 

[Mattdougie]

See I told you guys how to have this "discussion". See above. Just yell louder, forget anything resembling an intelligent discourse.

I would find it pointless to refute claims by those that like Jong with intelligent or logical means as it's clearly evident that those who think he can play football lack the required levels of the above to understand such a rebuttal.

 

[Mattdougie]

I think an integral part of this thread is being overlooked. What impact would playing a bucket have on our on field success?

I think the bucket would be most valued in defence. The bucket covering an opposition key forward would immediately solve our KPD issues. Jenkins doesn't kick 8 if he literally can't see due to there being a bucket on his head. Hurley who?

Of course it's all about whether we could fit a bucket under our cap. However, upon doing some research, getting a bucket would not greatly impact our cap space, on account of it costing only a couple of dollars from the reject shop. Safe gamble on our end.

And don't hold me to it, just what I've heard on the grapevine, but apparently the bucket was seen at the last Bulldogs home game saying, with tears in its eyes "just get me here". Looking more and more likely to eventuate.

Question is what are we prepared to give up for the bucket. A couple of rolls of sports tape? A 6 pack of orange gatorades? The ghost of Ayce Cordy's career? This is the hard part, have to be prepared to give something in order to get something.

The bucket also refused an approach from the pies so that's another tick

 

[GetDimmaBack]

I would find it pointless to refute claims by those that like Jong with intelligent or logical means as it's clearly evident that those who think he can play football lack the required levels of the above to understand such a rebuttal.

No refuting required.

Just stop talking about Jong!

We.Get.It.

 

[Mattdougie]

No refuting required.

Just stop talking about Jong!

We.Get.It.

Then tell people to stop adding me to posts about Jong!!

YOU DONT GET IT LOOK AT THE LAST FEW PAGES AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME MY NAME IS USED!!!!!!!!!!!

Find a spot lately where I have canned Jong when I'm not responding to someone!! GO ON

Stop blaming me for people tagging me if people want to keep pokin me about this very very ordinary footballer I will keep coming back it's pretty simple. I can stop but if people are trying to antagonise me why should I?

 

[BEaston]

I would find it pointless to refute claims by those that like Jong with intelligent or logical means as it's clearly evident that those who think he can play football lack the required levels of the above to understand such a rebuttal.

Oh yeah, that's obvious mate!

 

[Mattdougie]

Oh yeah, that's obvious mate!

Well let's look at yourself shall we.

You clearly don't like what I say about Jong but continue to respond and input me into posts directly or indirectly.

You then bang on when I respond to said post and ironically blame me for continuing the conversation.

Now you are far from the worst but I have at least 5 full time "fans" now that can't help but drag me into convos about this spud even when I'm not involved.

So as I said they keep poking I will keep responding coz it amuses me now and I've discussed this with the mods and they agree.

Only someone with very limited acumen would continue to try and make me change my mind about Jong and the fact they still do and then get so upset I won't says more about them than me.

Look at the Big picture mate like footy not just where the ball is.

 

[Libba39]

Well let's look at yourself shall we.

You clearly don't like what I say about Jong but continue to respond and input me into posts directly or indirectly.

You then bang on when I respond to said post and ironically blame me for continuing the conversation.

Now you are far from the worst but I have at least 5 full time "fans" now that can't help but drag me into convos about this spud even when I'm not involved.

So as I said they keep poking I will keep responding coz it amuses me now and I've discussed this with the mods and they agree.

Only someone with very limited acumen would continue to try and make me change my mind about Jong and the fact they still do and then get so upset I won't says more about them than me.

Look at the Big picture mate like footy not just where the ball is.

Maybe if you actually had any kind of second opinion or thought about anything else other than Jong people might take you seriously as a poster and engage with you on other topics.

Perhaps you want to be perceived in a certain way, maybe you don't, but to me you come across as someone who probably thinks Donald Trump is a great guy and Andrew Bolt writes good articles because they both 'speak their mind'. In reality they are pig-headed insecure morons and basically bullies with the inability to reason.

Sure we all get angry about players, call for axings and delistings in the heat of the moment. I for one have said Wallis wouldn't make it, that Fletcher Roberts should never pull on the jersey again, and that we should trade Roughead. The difference between you and the rest of us is that we are generally all more than happy to be proven wrong, while Jongy could win the Norm Smith and you still would come on here and bag him.

 

[Hoges64]

I think an integral part of this thread is being overlooked. What impact would playing a bucket have on our on field success?

I think the bucket would be most valued in defence. The bucket covering an opposition key forward would immediately solve our KPD issues. Jenkins doesn't kick 8 if he literally can't see due to there being a bucket on his head. Hurley who?

Of course it's all about whether we could fit a bucket under our cap. However, upon doing some research, getting a bucket would not greatly impact our cap space, on account of it costing only a couple of dollars from the reject shop. Safe gamble on our end.

And don't hold me to it, just what I've heard on the grapevine, but apparently the bucket was seen at the last Bulldogs home game saying, with tears in its eyes "just get me here". Looking more and more likely to eventuate.

Question is what are we prepared to give up for the bucket. A couple of rolls of sports tape? A 6 pack of orange gatorades? The ghost of Ayce Cordy's career? This is the hard part, have to be prepared to give something in order to get something.

No good. If the bucket is over his head it's making high contact. The only player we could put it on and get away with it is Lindsay Thomas.

 

[TiAn_]

Then tell people to stop adding me to posts about Jong!!

YOU DONT GET IT LOOK AT THE LAST FEW PAGES AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME MY NAME IS USED!!!!!!!!!!!

Find a spot lately where I have canned Jong when I'm not responding to someone!! GO ON

Stop blaming me for people tagging me if people want to keep pokin me about this very very ordinary footballer I will keep coming back it's pretty simple. I can stop but if people are trying to antagonise me why should I?

Well let's look at yourself shall we.

You clearly don't like what I say about Jong but continue to respond and input me into posts directly or indirectly.

You then bang on when I respond to said post and ironically blame me for continuing the conversation.

Now you are far from the worst but I have at least 5 full time "fans" now that can't help but drag me into convos about this spud even when I'm not involved.

So as I said they keep poking I will keep responding coz it amuses me now and I've discussed this with the mods and they agree.

Only someone with very limited acumen would continue to try and make me change my mind about Jong and the fact they still do and then get so upset I won't says more about them than me.

Look at the Big picture mate like footy not just where the ball is.

Just gave the thread a quick scan and your first post in this thread was not in response to anybody, you've posted about 7-8 times unprompted (including a couple about your mail regarding his contract offer that turned out to be wrong - which no one has needled you about) and about half a dozen times you've responded to people that didn't refer to you at all.

The only time you've been mentioned when someone wasn't replying to you was when your name was used in a song lyric 6 pages ago, some people telling me not to bother engaging with you and my summary about why I think you hold the view that you do, after receiving some pithy replies. I couldn't see that you were tagged anywhere in this thread.

I tried to gain some understanding as to why you think delisting is a good idea, but it didn't go anywhere. If your opinion doesn't go beyond "he's shite end of story" then you probably shouldn't bother responding to me or anyone else on the topic, or continue posting in this thread unprompted. If being involved discussion bothers you as much as the above posts suggest, just leave it alone and post about other stuff .

 

[BEaston]

Well let's look at yourself shall we.

You clearly don't like what I say about Jong but continue to respond and input me into posts directly or indirectly.

You then bang on when I respond to said post and ironically blame me for continuing the conversation.

Now you are far from the worst but I have at least 5 full time "fans" now that can't help but drag me into convos about this spud even when I'm not involved.

So as I said they keep poking I will keep responding coz it amuses me now and I've discussed this with the mods and they agree.

Only someone with very limited acumen would continue to try and make me change my mind about Jong and the fact they still do and then get so upset I won't says more about them than me.

Look at the Big picture mate like footy not just where the ball is.

I don't buy this claim at all. It's something you've claimed quite a few times before; that you don't bring up certain players and that you will stop doing so... yet without fail, 1 or 2 weeks later you'll mention them in an autopsy thread or whatever. You and I both know, that you've been busted doing this before so please don't try to claim you never start these conversations and it's everyone else's fault. You're not fooling anyone.

As a test though, let's see how long you can last without mentioning how shit Jong is.