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Let's try not to let this thread descend into arguments and just discuss it civilly.
I'm curious about this topic and also a little bit on the fence about it.
I don't smoke weed anymore, but i used to smoke chronically from the age of 16-20
And again from the age of 23-24 (I'm 26 now).
I tried it again last week just one time and it was okay but i found it made the people around me seem really dopey and the whole experience just felt dumb.
However i always enjoyed smoking by myself opposed to with people.
In my experiences of being a daily habitual user it's actually quite a selfish thing.
It's not the ''pass the joint/bong dude'' you see in Movies it was more often every man for himself with their own private stash.
I also found it quite hard to quit both times, i eventually did it.
But it becomes ingrained in your lifestyle and when i tried to quit you can't imagine ever being happy or feeling enjoyment doing something without being high.
So i don't really buy into the whole annoying ''it's not addictive'' stuff that overly pro-marijuana people say.
Anything can be addictive and when it's a powerful mind altering drug it can be a destructive thing to be addicted to.
Now about the legal status of this plant.
If they had weed shops on every corner just like we have bottleshops, would more people partake?
Would we have more high people wandering around? Or would it just the same old stoners as before?
At the end of the day i would be okay with it being legal, as when i want to occasionally partake having to find a dealer after years of being off it just isn't realistic and bloody annoying.
EDIT - Actually i think i might opt for a decriminalization and just medical marijuana instead.
Anyway sorry about the rant, what are your thoughts on this powerful plant???
Why? Did he slow you up because he was he was driving below the speed limit?I will provide a little detail when I return to Oz. It is a really interesting issue and very complex.
Sadly the driver of the car in front of my taxi to the airport was smoking dope whilst driving.
I guess there are always idiots.
If we had coffee shops like Amsterdam or dispensaries like the USA I could actually see "problem" or chronic weed use go down.
With it being illegal, a user has more incentive to purchase large quantities in one go, and will need to store it in their house. This encourages more regular use than is healthy (yeah yeah I know a lot of people claim its harmless, but people who use it daily for long periods of time can and do go off the rails whether they acknowledge it or not).
If, like in Amsterdam, a user could just go to the local weed coffeeshop and buy a pre-rolled spliff or a pipe when they wanted it, it would encourage people to only smoke when they really felt like it, rather than having a big stash and using it too much.
I could actually see weed use going down, particularly chronic use. In the Netherlands far less people have problematic weed use, and a smaller percentage of the population use weed than in Australia, USA or New Zealand.
Why? Did he slow you up because he was he was driving below the speed limit?
Marijuana use became complex simply because politics has made it so. Prior to prohibition societies worldwide were sensibly utilising the many forms of the plant for a myriad of uses. It was only until prohibition that the the use of marijuana has became problematic.
I have no issue with marijuana use but like all things there is a risk of abuse and irresponsible use.
This is a fascinating subject.
Why? Did he slow you up because he was he was driving below the speed limit?
Marijuana use became complex simply because politics has made it so. Prior to prohibition societies worldwide were sensibly utilising the many forms of the plant for a myriad of uses. It was only until prohibition that the the use of marijuana has became problematic.
Personally I would legalise everything but ice. (and I have never even smoked a joint).Problem with it being illegal is you need to mix in certain circles.
Not sure I agree with heroin and ice being legal. That s**t has sent my mum bat s**t crazy! Weed on the other hand I don't have a problem with. Aslong as their was a Legal (reasonable) driving limit, similar to alcohol. Not sure how they test it or work it out though.
Opium and cocaine were legal as recently as the 50s. The current laws are a crook of s**t. Alcohol and gambling are legal however.
Yeah there's definitely that sort of vibe. I'm no expert, but have read booze seems to be more harmful. There's this notion though that marijuana is completely harmless, like any other drug you abuse it and there's going to be negative effects on your life, how serious is another matter.what we going to throw people in jail for having a punt.
On a serious note though it's amazing how we are slowly heading to full legalisation. I personally believe all drugs should be legalised because the war on drugs is the biggest joke, waste of money and crock of s**t happening in the world.
Having said that I believe the message being sent at the moment is marijuana is fine. And I believe like all drugs it is if used sensibly. But I have seen some people who are seem seriously drug fkd because of years of heavy use.
Drugs should be a health issue not a legal issue. So all the money spent on the 'war' should be spent on education and health.
what we going to throw people in jail for having a punt.
On a serious note though it's amazing how we are slowly heading to full legalisation. I personally believe all drugs should be legalised because the war on drugs is the biggest joke, waste of money and crock of s**t happening in the world.
Having said that I believe the message being sent at the moment is marijuana is fine. And I believe like all drugs it is if used sensibly. But I have seen some people who are seem seriously drug fkd because of years of heavy use.
Drugs should be a health issue not a legal issue. So all the money spent on the 'war' should be spent on education and health.
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I'm not sure where you are getting the message dope is fine.
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What concerns? Our bodies have receptors for Cannabinoids. CBD and THC are non-toxic to humans to the degree there is not an immediate negative reaction by the body upon injestion. Pretty much anything we consume can be a danger to our health if consumed irresponsibly but we don't prohibit these things. There needs to be compelling evidence that a substance will cause substantial danger to any person and so far we do not have that for marijuana.Ftr I agree with you but.....
I'm not sure where you are getting the message dope is fine.
There is nowhere in the US where it is legal and probably never will be. The are parts of the US where it may seem legal but I can assure you it is not.
Same goes for the changes here in Oz.
My punt is CBD will have a lot to offer but THC will always have concerns.
What concerns? Our bodies have receptors for Cannabinoids. CBD and THC are non-toxic to humans to the degree there is not an immediate negative reaction by the body upon injestion. Pretty much anything we consume can be a danger to our health if consumed irresponsibly but we don't prohibit these things. There needs to be compelling evidence that a substance will cause substantial danger to any person and so far we do not have that for marijuana.
There may well be long term affects of regularly injesting THC, but due to prohibition it has not been properly researched. Until it is fully legalised large scale, unimpeded scientific research cannot take place. Until then the perceived dangers associated with pot would seem to be terribly exaggerated, as most evidence coming out nowadays does not support these claims.
And as far as legality in the US goes my understanding is the states that have legalised either or both medical and recreational pot, are not to be interfered with by federal authorities. So whilst federal prohibition still stands, within those states it is most certainly legal to posses and consume pot. Is this not the case?