Player Watch Ben Sinclair (Retired 2017)

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Rusling had the same problem over his career (shoulders). Not the same situation is Sinkers who has had hamstring issues mainly. The concussion problmes only arose recently. Now that hes over his hammys it would be harsh to delist him because of concussion problems...unless it was purely under advice from doctors....
I meant Ruslingesque in that it could cut a promising career short far too soon.
 
I think Ben's career would sadly have to be on the line now, too many head knocks and too many concussions. He now seems susceptible to it with even a small collision, there did not appear to be any high contact at all last night, just the jolt seemed to be enough to put him into lala land and that is a real worry. His overall and long term well being may see a call made on his career here I think.

Shame, been playing his best footy, but you don't mess around with brain injuries.
 
I think Ben's career would sadly have to be on the line now, too many head knocks and too many concussions. He now seems susceptible to it with even a small collision, there did not appear to be any high contact at all last night, just the jolt seemed to be enough to put him into lala land and that is a real worry. His overall and long term well being may see a call made on his career here I think.

Shame, been playing his best footy, but you don't mess around with brain injuries.
Sad but yep
 

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I think Ben's career would sadly have to be on the line now, too many head knocks and too many concussions. He now seems susceptible to it with even a small collision, there did not appear to be any high contact at all last night, just the jolt seemed to be enough to put him into lala land and that is a real worry. His overall and long term well being may see a call made on his career here I think.

Shame, been playing his best footy, but you don't mess around with brain injuries.
Spot on. They need to rest him through to next season to see whether time 'heals'. If that doesn't help, his health needs to be first priority.
 
The latest on the website says that the doctors now understand what the problem is with Sinclair. Evidently, that string that he ties around his head to keep his hair in place has been too tight. When he starts running around, the blood flow stops and he faints, especially if he gets a hit. Doctors have told Stinkers that all he has to do is to cut his hair and he'll be ok to play this weekend....
 
The latest on the website says that the doctors now understand what the problem is with Sinclair. Evidently, that string that he ties around his head to keep his hair in place has been too tight. When he starts running around, the blood flow stops and he faints, especially if he gets a hit. Doctors have told Stinkers that all he has to do is to cut his hair and he'll be ok to play this weekend....

The kid may have a serious problem Mark.
 
And how is my post going to affect him? Dont answer that. We dont need a trail of posts on this.
please explain, why not;)
 

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Wearing a helmet would help, after 3 or 4 concussions wouldnt it be a logical choice?
This discussion has already been done to death. Helmets do nothing to prevent concussion, so no, it's not the logical choice.
 
Hope he retires. Another concussion when he returns could be catastrophic to his future health.

"Symptoms of CTE, which occur in four stages, generally appear 8–10 years after an athlete experiences repetitive mild traumatic brain injury.[2] First-stage symptoms include attention deficits as well as disorientation, dizziness, and headaches. Second-stage symptoms include memory loss, social instability, erratic behavior, and poor judgment. Third and fourth stages include progressive dementia, movement disorders, hypomimia, speech impediments, tremors, vertigo, deafness, and suicidality. Additional symptoms include dysarthria, dysphagia, and ocular abnormalities - such as ptosis.[3]

Currently, CTE can only be definitively diagnosed by direct tissue examination, including full autopsies and immunohistochemical brain analyses.[4]

The neuropathological appearance of CTE is distinguished from other tauopathies, such as Alzheimer's disease. The four clinical stages of observable CTE disability have been correlated with tau pathology in brain tissue, ranging in severity from focal perivascular epicenters of neurofibrillary tangles in the frontal neocortex to severe tauopathy affecting widespread brain regions."
 
Hope he retires. Another concussion when he returns could be catastrophic to his future health.

"Symptoms of CTE, which occur in four stages, generally appear 8–10 years after an athlete experiences repetitive mild traumatic brain injury.[2] First-stage symptoms include attention deficits as well as disorientation, dizziness, and headaches. Second-stage symptoms include memory loss, social instability, erratic behavior, and poor judgment. Third and fourth stages include progressive dementia, movement disorders, hypomimia, speech impediments, tremors, vertigo, deafness, and suicidality. Additional symptoms include dysarthria, dysphagia, and ocular abnormalities - such as ptosis.[3]

Currently, CTE can only be definitively diagnosed by direct tissue examination, including full autopsies and immunohistochemical brain analyses.[4]

The neuropathological appearance of CTE is distinguished from other tauopathies, such as Alzheimer's disease. The four clinical stages of observable CTE disability have been correlated with tau pathology in brain tissue, ranging in severity from focal perivascular epicenters of neurofibrillary tangles in the frontal neocortex to severe tauopathy affecting widespread brain regions."

Not sure AFL players come under the same "repetitive" nature of brain trauma that NFL players do. They are constantly being hit in the head the entire game not 1 off moments between many games.

While it's certainly still possible it would be a much lower risk for an AFL player vs NFL.
 
Not sure AFL players come under the same "repetitive" nature of brain trauma that NFL players do. They are constantly being hit in the head the entire game not 1 off moments between many games.

While it's certainly still possible it would be a much lower risk for an AFL player vs NFL.

How many concussions has Sinclair had now? You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's in the "high risk" category.
 
How many concussions has Sinclair had now? You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's in the "high risk" category.

It's not just about the concussions its about the repetitive hits to the head. Concussion is only part of it, NFL players are constantly being hit in the head all game every game for some of them up to 1500 times in a season. Sinclair is having 1 off concussions once or twice a season at most, if he was getting ko'd every week then we'd have to seriously look at him retiring.


https://www.technologyreview.com/s/421009/analyzing-hard-hits-on-the-football-field/

New research on head injuries in football–data gathered from a large study of players in action–might reinforce the growing suspicion that brain trauma is caused not only by knock-out hits that leave a player woozy, but also by the accumulation of smaller hits. The findings could eventually support the creation of something like the pitch limits in youth baseball: after a certain threshold of blows to the head, a football player would come out of a game.

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Taking hits: This Riddell football helmet is equipped with six accelerometers in its liner. The red circles show where the accelerometers go. The sensors measure the acceleration of the head and transmit the data to a computer for analysis.
The research comes from a federally funded study that was designed to improve the understanding of the biomechanics of brain injury among athletes. The study is especially timely given two recent cases that raised questions about whether football causes more extensive brain damage than most fans and players realize.

Owen Thomas, a 21-year-old University of Pennsylvania football player who committed suicide, and Chris Henry, a 26-year-old Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver who died during a domestic dispute, were both found to have chronic traumatic encephalopathy. That is a degenerative brain disease caused by head trauma. It’s been found in more than 20 deceased NFL players. It cannot be diagnosed in a living person because physicians have to take microscopic examinations of brain tissue to identify the protein and abnormalities that mark the disease.

In the new study, funded by the National Institutes of Health, researchers outfitted football teams from Virginia Tech, Brown University, and Dartmouth College with sensor-equipped helmets that measure the magnitude, location, and direction of a hit and send the data to a computer. The researchers could then focus on the frequency and location of blows to the head that individual players received during practices and games.

The researchers discovered that some players receive 1,400 to 1,500 hits to the head (the study calls them “head impact exposures”) in a season–on average about six per practice and 14 per game, but typically more for linemen and linebackers who absorb the most; running backs get hit less often, but the magnitude of the impacts was generally higher, says Rick Greenwald, president of Simbex, a research and product development company in Lebanon, New Hampshire. Greenwald is principal investigator of the research team and was due to present the data Friday at the Head Trauma and the Athlete Conference in Waltham, Massachusetts. The full study is being published in the Journal of Athletic Training in December, and Greenwald hopes the data will be used by helmet manufacturers to design better equipmentand by the organizations that set standards for helmet testing.
 
Hope he retires. Another concussion when he returns could be catastrophic to his future health.

"Symptoms of CTE, which occur in four stages, generally appear 8–10 years after an athlete experiences repetitive mild traumatic brain injury.[2] First-stage symptoms include attention deficits as well as disorientation, dizziness, and headaches. Second-stage symptoms include memory loss, social instability, erratic behavior, and poor judgment. Third and fourth stages include progressive dementia, movement disorders, hypomimia, speech impediments, tremors, vertigo, deafness, and suicidality. Additional symptoms include dysarthria, dysphagia, and ocular abnormalities - such as ptosis.[3]

Currently, CTE can only be definitively diagnosed by direct tissue examination, including full autopsies and immunohistochemical brain analyses.[4]

The neuropathological appearance of CTE is distinguished from other tauopathies, such as Alzheimer's disease. The four clinical stages of observable CTE disability have been correlated with tau pathology in brain tissue, ranging in severity from focal perivascular epicenters of neurofibrillary tangles in the frontal neocortex to severe tauopathy affecting widespread brain regions."
How many concussions has Sinclair had now? You're kidding yourself if you don't think he's in the "high risk" category.
If there was a high chance of this happening wouldn't he have retired or been given the medical opinion that he should retire at the end of last year rather than now?
 
Unless he's had some sort of concussion at training that I've missed, wtf was this conversation bumped for?

It's an ongoing discussion, does there need to be an incident for discussion about it?

If there was a high chance of this happening wouldn't he have retired or been given the medical opinion that he should retire at the end of last year rather than now?

Have you not being paying attention to concussion news recently? Players and sports medicos are scrambling to catch up to concussion/brain trauma and the damage its already done
 
It's an ongoing discussion, does there need to be an incident for discussion about it?
Ongoing implies it never stopped. You just randomly bumped a 6 month old thread about Sinclair to talk about concussions that he hasn't had an issue with this year....
 
Ongoing implies it never stopped. You just randomly bumped a 6 month old thread about Sinclair to talk about concussions that he hasn't had an issue with this year....

What sparked it is another sportsmen dying after being concussed 10 times in his career.

After he was knocked out for the 10th time he was rushed to hospital and never woke up. Tim Hague, Boxer/MMA
 

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