Mega Thread Melbourne Cup 2016 and all Cup day racing discussion.

[Ron The Bear]

Cheers. Looking at that they haven't really done a lot. I always have this perception in my head that they've gone a lot closer to the placings than that.

The trainer of the 2006 quinella amazingly got it perfectly right first time where many others haven't. Bit of a mysterious chapter in the race's history due to the language differences. People here had Japanese racing on a pedestal for years afterwards, not unlike the initial impact of Vintage Crop's win.

 

[benno_]

mug punter when it comes to horses, on Gallante @121 (SB odds boost) as a roughie

Adding Gallante/Almandin quinella $2001 (SB odds boost)

 

[nobbyiscool]

The trainer of the 2006 quinella amazingly got it perfectly right first time where many others haven't. Bit of a mysterious chapter in the race's history due to the language differences. People here had Japanese racing on a pedestal for years afterwards, not unlike the initial impact of Vintage Crop's win.

The equine influenza "crisis" almost added to that mystery chapter as well IMO - we never got the chance to see whether their horses at that time were significantly better than ours, or whether Pop Rock and Delta Blues were an anomaly. As a racing fan first and foremost that still disappoints me.

 

[FallingLiefs]

Looks like the Europeans have been nibbling Big Orange, Wicklow and Secret Number on the fair last night.

I reckon Secret Number is a bit of a mug pick for the overseas punters - Europeans who think this is a handicap like the Ebor or County Hurdle where the idea is to get in as light as possible with limited exposure. In reality it's a glorified quality and most winners are black type horses coming through black type races

Mug punters lol. Just accept it's going to put in a good run and run third

 

[Gavin Excell]

The equine influenza "crisis" almost added to that mystery chapter as well IMO - we never got the chance to see whether their horses at that time were significantly better than ours, or whether Pop Rock and Delta Blues were an anomaly. As a racing fan first and foremost that still disappoints me.

They are enigmatic the Japanese runners. Lots of hype but not a lot of success. Ditto their efforts at Royal Ascot

 

[iluvparis]

Mug punters lol. Just accept it's going to put in a good run and run thirteenth

EFA

 

[iluvparis]

They are enigmatic the Japanese runners. Lots of hype but not a lot of success. Ditto their efforts at Royal Ascot

And the Arc

I think their racing is still viewed as 'mysterious' by some so their horses get overrated a fair bit.

 

[Gavin Excell]

However they have a great record when sending horses to the Hong Kong international meet in December. Had some success last few years cancelling out being sucked in time and time again out here.

I note Curren Mirotic has a stablemate entered in the race that follows the cup at any old odds. May draw the line at that one

 

[nutstar]

Almandin
Oceanographer
Jameka

 

[Watts4Dinner]

Almandin 19
Jameka 14
Qewy 7
Hartnell 6
Wicklow Brave 6
Bondi Beach 5
Oceanographer 4
Big Orange 2
Heartbreak City 1
Grey Lion 1
Secret Number 1

Almandin only 6th in the current betting (Betfair) but a clear forum leader atm.

Clearly a two horse race, this isn't hard at all!

 

[DemonDayz]

Cup day eh, spring is in the air.
Always a tough tough race.

I really think Jameka is the standout form-wise.
The one's i think will run the distance ok and are value ew or just place chances would be.

Qewy
Bondi Beach
Heartbreak City
Gallante (big odds)
Almandin


If i had to break down and try to predict the first 4 i'd say

1. Jameka
2. Bondi Beach
3. Gallante
4. Almandin

 

[BEEG]

Almandin into 12s

 

[HeathySure]

Cheers. Looking at that they haven't really done a lot. I always have this perception in my head that they've gone a lot closer to the placings than that.

you could look at it that way or you could look at it like Admire Rakti dropped dead, Fame Game was not given a chance as was Hokko Brave and there was 1 runner in between 2006 and 2014 Tokei trick who actually hit teh front with 300 to go but died.
also can look at it like 8 runners one 18/1 winner over 200% profit on turnover

 

[year of the cat]

Wish those 16's for Almandin from this morning were still around. Got greedy...

 

[BEEG]

Wish those 16's for Almandin from this morning were still around. Got greedy...

Still can't believe I got 22s with the power boost.

 

[PieBeast]

Almandin
Jameka
Bondi Beach

roughie Secret Number

 

[The_Big_Ship]

Draw (Victory v Wellington / Big Orange / Donald Trump 10 @ 184

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Lloyd;s pre race boast of beating the handicapper will bite if he doesn't win or even place!

 

[Aussie Assault]

you could look at it that way or you could look at it like Admire Rakti dropped dead, Fame Game was not given a chance as was Hokko Brave and there was 1 runner in between 2006 and 2014 Tokei trick who actually hit teh front with 300 to go but died.
also can look at it like 8 runners one 18/1 winner over 200% profit on turnover

Delta Blues was my last Cup winner. Got the tri that year as well. Since then its been donuts unfortunately.

Turning it around this year though.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Almandin into 12s

$11s

 

[Matty_G]

Sensing a theme here, has the BigFooty Punting Board all brainwashed each other?

1 - Jameka
2 - Almandin
3 - Bondi Beach

Next best: Wicklow Brave, Oceanographer
Best Roughie: Gallante

 

[year of the cat]

Still can't believe I got 22s with the power boost.

Lucky bastard. I've had to settle on 13's from Crownbet. Hoping it might blow again with the weight of the once a year punter tomorrow. Has a name that won't appeal to many I hope.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Everyone must be reading Bigfooty! Not much chatter about Almandin at all other than the last couple of days. I think some are getting carried away

 

[JuddsABlue]

Almandin betters, at what price do you think he becomes too short to back?

 

[Ron The Bear]

Everyone must be reading Bigfooty! Not much chatter about Almandin at all other than the last couple of days. I think some are getting carried away

Seems to be an informed underground push, $17 into $11 on TAB fixed since yesterday. Getting the best of the market is a good feeling, the rest is up to the horse...