Super Hans
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I've noticed people have started doing little ones of these, so I thought we'd have a thread where everyone can do a preview of their own club. Then, just like last year, it can be stickied and hopefully it will help with any questions people have about certain players.
So I'll do the dogs players.
DEFENDERS
Matthew Boyd - 563K
He was a great pick last year and surprised everyone by playing 20 games, only being rested for one. I think that's going to be a lot harder for him this year and would be shocked if he plays 19+ games. He's arguably our most important player though (since the start of 2015 we haven't won a game he didn't play in), so who knows. Scoring wise is never gonna be an issue with Boyd, just depends on whether you want to start a 34 year old when there's a shitload of DEF options this year. Predicted average: 102
Jason Johannisen - 513K
He's the obvious choice from the club down back. Started the year with a 130 and 123 before popping his hammy, so you know he can go big. I consider under 70 a bad score for a defender, and he only went under that 3/16 games last year (66, 65, 69), so he's got a pretty low floor to go with a high ceiling. Basically, I'd be shocked if he's not in the top 6 for total points as a DEF come the end of year. Predicted average: 101
Marcus Adams - 438K
Was awesome as a rookie last year, but the reality is there's much better options in defence this year. I struggle to see anyone picking him for that price. I believe he is also still injured with a shoulder, so there's that too. Predicted average: 79
Matthew Suckling - 413K
Keep this one short and sweet, you basically always know what you're going to get average wise from him. He's averaged mid 70's the last three years. I don't see that changing, not enough to be a keeper. Predicted average: 76
Shane Biggs - 408K
He's actually a bloody good player, but scoring wise he's the same as Sucking while probably not having the same ceiling. Won't a keeper. Footy wise he was one of a four (of the top of my head) to play every game for us last year, so he's doing something right. Predicted average: 73
Easton Wood - 397K
Gun player who is no doubt underpriced, but once again I struggle to see him going 90+, which is what's needed for a premium down back this year. He really doesn't have a supercoach gamestyle. Predicted average: 88
Bob Murphy - 392K
He's the really interesting one for me. Last year scored 112, 102 and 95 before popping his very well publicised knee. He started day one of preseason with all the other boys, so that shouldn't be a worry, but do you really want to pick a 34 year old coming off a three game season? He's underpriced and I don't actually see him being rested, but the risk is there. No doubts on his scoring, but I think the risk is a little much for me. He could change my mind with a decent NAB cup, or whatever it's called these days. Predicted average: 91
Dale Morris - 375K
Never been a supercoach player, never will be. We still love him, though. Predicted average: Who cares? 64 I guess.
Bailey Williams - 285K
Massive wraps on this kid. Good ball user who can also find the pill, but I imagine he won't get a lot of games with Bob coming back and our running backs being stacked. When Murph and Boyd retire he'll be an option, but hopefully that's not for a while . Predicted average: 68
Fletcher Roberts - 257K
Eh. I don't rate him in actually footy and he's certainly not a supercoach player. Predicted average: 56
Rourke Smith - 208K
Won't play a lot of games, but I like him as a player. Very Easton Wood like. But yeah, more a development player. I'll be shocked if he plays more than five games. Predicted average: 47
Josh Prudden - 173K
He's on the rookie list. Nope. Predicted average: -
Brad Lynch, Kieran Collins - 123K
Struggle to see them getting a game or being relevant. Predicted average: -
MIDFIELDERS
Marcus Bontempelli - 583K
Pick him and throw away the key. It's that simple. Had a slow start to last season which I'm putting down to doing no preseason, but went nuts when he got going. Averaged 115 from rounds 7-23, but the thing that I think makes him a lock is the ability to get big scores from little possessions. Compared to someone like Dustin Martin, who turns 30 touches into a 100-110 score, Bont is much more effective.
This year he got:
140 from 30 touches (Adelaide)
147 from 30 touches (West Coast)
140 from 25 touches (Richmond)
133 from 19 touches (North)
137 from 26 touches (Collingwood)
145 from 27 touches (Hawthorn)
140 from 22 touches (Sydney - Grand final )
So he really needs to have little of the ball (compared to other premos) to go big. CD love him, I mean who could blame them? He only turned 21 a few weeks ago, so there's no reason why he shouldn't have a big jump in scoring. Is also doing a preseason this year. Predicted average: 117
Lachie Hunter - 515K
Finds the ball with ease and is a decent user most of the time. He's said in interviews this preseason the aim is for him to build his contested game, but until that's seen in a game he's more of a DT pick. Predicted average: 93
Tom Liberatore - 494K
Firstly, he should be a forward. Can't believe he didn't get DPP and Macrae did. Anyway. I'm a firm believer in picking blokes the year after they come back from serious injuries, I have nothing to back that up, just a gut feel that the player almost always improves massively after a full year back. He's underpriced due to that and being injured early on in three games this year (64 vs North, 47 vs Richmond and 72 vs Geelong) so there's value there. That 72 vs Geelong was in one and a half quarters, too. Off the top of my head that would bump his average up to 96 or so instead of 90. I like him as a pick, just depends whether you want to spend just under 500K on someone who probably won't average as much as Beams for example. The worry about him dropping off because we put so many blokes in the middle is a myth. He scored 115 from 15 touches vs Sydney (two goals) and 120 vs West Coast from 20 touches (three goals). So he can score points when resting forward. Predicted average: 107
Liam Picken - 464K
Not gonna go 100+ and there's much better options at a cheaper price. He played a lot up forward this year, so I thought he'd be a sneaky DPP chance. But no way as a mid. Predicted average : 84
Ruckmen
I don't think we have any relevant ruckmen. We mix and match it too much in there. I can see people picking Boyd after his super mega awesome grand final, but he didn't get a ton in that game. So I don't see anyway he's going to average enough to be a keeper, not worth it when Sandi is like 10K more.
Forward
Luke Dahlhaus - 520K
I'll be absalutley stunned if he's not owned by 40%+ of people in SC this year. With all the forwards we've lost he's an absolute lock. Underpriced from going off in the first quarter injured vs Port Adelaide, he should be good for a 100+ average. In the first 11 rounds he only went below 84 once (69 vs West Coast) and hit a ton in 7 out of 11 of those games. Can be a bit ineffective at times (26 touches for 71 points vs Geelong) but he's more than likely this years #1 forward. Predicted average: 101
Jack Macrae - 511K
How is this bloke a forward? Who cares how! It's pretty simple for me, this year he went below 70 (what I consider bad score for a forward) once, that was a 68 vs Sydney. He's underpriced compared to other years due to his game vs Geelong where he got injured half way through the third quarter. Has averaged 99 and 100 in the two years previous and showed he can score big 140 in the final vs Hawthorn. The only thing I will say is that he does need to get 30+ touches to get a 100+ score and that he doesn't kick many goals. So He's more likely to score 90-110 than 110+. Predicted average: 98
Mitch Wallis - 473K
I dunno where he's at with his injury, but if he plays I imagine it won't be till later in the year. Predicted average: 84
Caleb Daniel - 430K
Good player who can score, but I don't see him going 90+. Better options out there I think, especially given I think most people will have Macrae/Dahlhaus. Predicted average: 83
Lin Jong - 411K
I could basically say the same thing as I did for Daniel, but Lin has the added bonus of no job security. Nope. Predicted average: 75
Jake Stringer - 410K
He's going to move into the midfield one year and breakout in SC, but I wouldn't pick him until that happens. Played with a busted shoulder from the Gold Coast game onward, so might be underpriced, but he's way too risky to pick at this stage. Very high risk/reward. Predicted average: 89
Toby McLean - 381K
Nice little player who everyone seems to hate, but not SC relevant yet. Predicted average: 78
Josh Dunkley - 378K
I don't mind this pick. There's always a second year player who breaks out. Once he came back in the team in round 17 he went on to average 82. But he's a pretty average ball user atm, one for the future maybe. Predicted average: 83
Stewart Crameri - 359K
Never been a SC player, don't see why he'd start now. Predicted average: 81
Travis Cloke - 354K
I've got no doubt he'll improve on that average, but no one is gonna pick him up. Even when he was a SC gun you'd get 150 one week and 40 the next. Predicted average: 86
Clay Smith - 353K
He can clearly play, but the injury risk is just too much. Would be nice to see him get a good run at it. Predicted average: 76
Tory Dickson - 342K
Not a SC player. Predicted average: 73
Jack Redpath - 329K
Out for most of the year. Predicted average: -
Mitch Honeychurch - 268K, Lukas Webb - 260K, Bailey Dale - 238K
Basically these three are in the same situation. Will go in and out of the team as injuries happen. I really like Webb for the future, but none are relevant atm. Predicted averages: 52
Zaine Cordy - 222K
That's PREMIERSHIP CENTRE HALF FORWARD Zaine Cordy to you! Nah, will probably go back down to lock down defender in the VFL with Cloke coming in. Predicted average: 39
Declan Hamilton - 123K, Lewis Young - 117K, Patrick Lipinski - 117K, Fergus Green - 117K, Tristan Tweedie - 102K.
These are just like any other rookies I guess. Lipinski might get a game or two, struggle to see the rest having an impact. Predicted average: -
Taking into account positions, my top five picks from the dogs would be:
#1 Luke Dahlhaus
#2 Marcus Bontempelli
#3 Jack Macrae
#4 Jason Johannisen
#5 Tom Liberatore
Hopefully this is helpful and I look forward to reading some other clubs previews!
So I'll do the dogs players.
DEFENDERS
Matthew Boyd - 563K
He was a great pick last year and surprised everyone by playing 20 games, only being rested for one. I think that's going to be a lot harder for him this year and would be shocked if he plays 19+ games. He's arguably our most important player though (since the start of 2015 we haven't won a game he didn't play in), so who knows. Scoring wise is never gonna be an issue with Boyd, just depends on whether you want to start a 34 year old when there's a shitload of DEF options this year. Predicted average: 102
Jason Johannisen - 513K
He's the obvious choice from the club down back. Started the year with a 130 and 123 before popping his hammy, so you know he can go big. I consider under 70 a bad score for a defender, and he only went under that 3/16 games last year (66, 65, 69), so he's got a pretty low floor to go with a high ceiling. Basically, I'd be shocked if he's not in the top 6 for total points as a DEF come the end of year. Predicted average: 101
Marcus Adams - 438K
Was awesome as a rookie last year, but the reality is there's much better options in defence this year. I struggle to see anyone picking him for that price. I believe he is also still injured with a shoulder, so there's that too. Predicted average: 79
Matthew Suckling - 413K
Keep this one short and sweet, you basically always know what you're going to get average wise from him. He's averaged mid 70's the last three years. I don't see that changing, not enough to be a keeper. Predicted average: 76
Shane Biggs - 408K
He's actually a bloody good player, but scoring wise he's the same as Sucking while probably not having the same ceiling. Won't a keeper. Footy wise he was one of a four (of the top of my head) to play every game for us last year, so he's doing something right. Predicted average: 73
Easton Wood - 397K
Gun player who is no doubt underpriced, but once again I struggle to see him going 90+, which is what's needed for a premium down back this year. He really doesn't have a supercoach gamestyle. Predicted average: 88
Bob Murphy - 392K
He's the really interesting one for me. Last year scored 112, 102 and 95 before popping his very well publicised knee. He started day one of preseason with all the other boys, so that shouldn't be a worry, but do you really want to pick a 34 year old coming off a three game season? He's underpriced and I don't actually see him being rested, but the risk is there. No doubts on his scoring, but I think the risk is a little much for me. He could change my mind with a decent NAB cup, or whatever it's called these days. Predicted average: 91
Dale Morris - 375K
Never been a supercoach player, never will be. We still love him, though. Predicted average: Who cares? 64 I guess.
Bailey Williams - 285K
Massive wraps on this kid. Good ball user who can also find the pill, but I imagine he won't get a lot of games with Bob coming back and our running backs being stacked. When Murph and Boyd retire he'll be an option, but hopefully that's not for a while . Predicted average: 68
Fletcher Roberts - 257K
Eh. I don't rate him in actually footy and he's certainly not a supercoach player. Predicted average: 56
Rourke Smith - 208K
Won't play a lot of games, but I like him as a player. Very Easton Wood like. But yeah, more a development player. I'll be shocked if he plays more than five games. Predicted average: 47
Josh Prudden - 173K
He's on the rookie list. Nope. Predicted average: -
Brad Lynch, Kieran Collins - 123K
Struggle to see them getting a game or being relevant. Predicted average: -
MIDFIELDERS
Marcus Bontempelli - 583K
Pick him and throw away the key. It's that simple. Had a slow start to last season which I'm putting down to doing no preseason, but went nuts when he got going. Averaged 115 from rounds 7-23, but the thing that I think makes him a lock is the ability to get big scores from little possessions. Compared to someone like Dustin Martin, who turns 30 touches into a 100-110 score, Bont is much more effective.
This year he got:
140 from 30 touches (Adelaide)
147 from 30 touches (West Coast)
140 from 25 touches (Richmond)
133 from 19 touches (North)
137 from 26 touches (Collingwood)
145 from 27 touches (Hawthorn)
140 from 22 touches (Sydney - Grand final )
So he really needs to have little of the ball (compared to other premos) to go big. CD love him, I mean who could blame them? He only turned 21 a few weeks ago, so there's no reason why he shouldn't have a big jump in scoring. Is also doing a preseason this year. Predicted average: 117
Lachie Hunter - 515K
Finds the ball with ease and is a decent user most of the time. He's said in interviews this preseason the aim is for him to build his contested game, but until that's seen in a game he's more of a DT pick. Predicted average: 93
Tom Liberatore - 494K
Firstly, he should be a forward. Can't believe he didn't get DPP and Macrae did. Anyway. I'm a firm believer in picking blokes the year after they come back from serious injuries, I have nothing to back that up, just a gut feel that the player almost always improves massively after a full year back. He's underpriced due to that and being injured early on in three games this year (64 vs North, 47 vs Richmond and 72 vs Geelong) so there's value there. That 72 vs Geelong was in one and a half quarters, too. Off the top of my head that would bump his average up to 96 or so instead of 90. I like him as a pick, just depends whether you want to spend just under 500K on someone who probably won't average as much as Beams for example. The worry about him dropping off because we put so many blokes in the middle is a myth. He scored 115 from 15 touches vs Sydney (two goals) and 120 vs West Coast from 20 touches (three goals). So he can score points when resting forward. Predicted average: 107
Liam Picken - 464K
Not gonna go 100+ and there's much better options at a cheaper price. He played a lot up forward this year, so I thought he'd be a sneaky DPP chance. But no way as a mid. Predicted average : 84
Ruckmen
I don't think we have any relevant ruckmen. We mix and match it too much in there. I can see people picking Boyd after his super mega awesome grand final, but he didn't get a ton in that game. So I don't see anyway he's going to average enough to be a keeper, not worth it when Sandi is like 10K more.
Forward
Luke Dahlhaus - 520K
I'll be absalutley stunned if he's not owned by 40%+ of people in SC this year. With all the forwards we've lost he's an absolute lock. Underpriced from going off in the first quarter injured vs Port Adelaide, he should be good for a 100+ average. In the first 11 rounds he only went below 84 once (69 vs West Coast) and hit a ton in 7 out of 11 of those games. Can be a bit ineffective at times (26 touches for 71 points vs Geelong) but he's more than likely this years #1 forward. Predicted average: 101
Jack Macrae - 511K
How is this bloke a forward? Who cares how! It's pretty simple for me, this year he went below 70 (what I consider bad score for a forward) once, that was a 68 vs Sydney. He's underpriced compared to other years due to his game vs Geelong where he got injured half way through the third quarter. Has averaged 99 and 100 in the two years previous and showed he can score big 140 in the final vs Hawthorn. The only thing I will say is that he does need to get 30+ touches to get a 100+ score and that he doesn't kick many goals. So He's more likely to score 90-110 than 110+. Predicted average: 98
Mitch Wallis - 473K
I dunno where he's at with his injury, but if he plays I imagine it won't be till later in the year. Predicted average: 84
Caleb Daniel - 430K
Good player who can score, but I don't see him going 90+. Better options out there I think, especially given I think most people will have Macrae/Dahlhaus. Predicted average: 83
Lin Jong - 411K
I could basically say the same thing as I did for Daniel, but Lin has the added bonus of no job security. Nope. Predicted average: 75
Jake Stringer - 410K
He's going to move into the midfield one year and breakout in SC, but I wouldn't pick him until that happens. Played with a busted shoulder from the Gold Coast game onward, so might be underpriced, but he's way too risky to pick at this stage. Very high risk/reward. Predicted average: 89
Toby McLean - 381K
Nice little player who everyone seems to hate, but not SC relevant yet. Predicted average: 78
Josh Dunkley - 378K
I don't mind this pick. There's always a second year player who breaks out. Once he came back in the team in round 17 he went on to average 82. But he's a pretty average ball user atm, one for the future maybe. Predicted average: 83
Stewart Crameri - 359K
Never been a SC player, don't see why he'd start now. Predicted average: 81
Travis Cloke - 354K
I've got no doubt he'll improve on that average, but no one is gonna pick him up. Even when he was a SC gun you'd get 150 one week and 40 the next. Predicted average: 86
Clay Smith - 353K
He can clearly play, but the injury risk is just too much. Would be nice to see him get a good run at it. Predicted average: 76
Tory Dickson - 342K
Not a SC player. Predicted average: 73
Jack Redpath - 329K
Out for most of the year. Predicted average: -
Mitch Honeychurch - 268K, Lukas Webb - 260K, Bailey Dale - 238K
Basically these three are in the same situation. Will go in and out of the team as injuries happen. I really like Webb for the future, but none are relevant atm. Predicted averages: 52
Zaine Cordy - 222K
That's PREMIERSHIP CENTRE HALF FORWARD Zaine Cordy to you! Nah, will probably go back down to lock down defender in the VFL with Cloke coming in. Predicted average: 39
Declan Hamilton - 123K, Lewis Young - 117K, Patrick Lipinski - 117K, Fergus Green - 117K, Tristan Tweedie - 102K.
These are just like any other rookies I guess. Lipinski might get a game or two, struggle to see the rest having an impact. Predicted average: -
Taking into account positions, my top five picks from the dogs would be:
#1 Luke Dahlhaus
#2 Marcus Bontempelli
#3 Jack Macrae
#4 Jason Johannisen
#5 Tom Liberatore
Hopefully this is helpful and I look forward to reading some other clubs previews!