No Oppo Supporters The Melt Thread

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Ross mentioned before the season started that we need to go back to "giving great effort" - the mantra that took us to a GF in 2013.

After round two it appears the players haven't got the message...

Despite being:

No 1 for Clearances
2nd best for DE%
Better than average clangers
8th for uncontested ball

We are:

Worst in the comp for Goals kicked
Worst for opponent goals kicked
2nd worst for i50s

Primarily because we are:

Worst in the comp for tackles (By a long way)
Worst in the comp for opponent DE%
Worst for opponent bounces
Worst for Cont Poss
Worst for opponent cont Marks


So basically, we're not winning the hard ball and we're not applying pressure when we don't have the ball. And when we do get the ball, we're using it effectively, but it's not ending up in our forward 50.

A lot of this can be explained by the poor gameplan. Particularly our inability to generate i50s. But how much of it is players not running hard enough and not going hard enough at the ball?

From round 3 onwards, the stats I'll be looking out for are contested possessions, tackles, pressure acts and opponent DE%. When they improve, we will at least know we're giving great effort.
Good post.


The fact that we have the 2nd best DE% in the comp tells me all I need to know about how useful DE% is at gauging a teams skill level.
 

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ydraw

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Ross mentioned before the season started that we need to go back to "giving great effort" - the mantra that took us to a GF in 2013.

After round two it appears the players haven't got the message...

Despite being:

No 1 for Clearances
2nd best for DE%
Better than average clangers
8th for uncontested ball

We are:

Worst in the comp for Goals kicked
Worst for opponent goals kicked
2nd worst for i50s

Primarily because we are:

Worst in the comp for tackles (By a long way)
Worst in the comp for opponent DE%
Worst for opponent bounces
Worst for Cont Poss
Worst for opponent cont Marks


So basically, we're not winning the hard ball and we're not applying pressure when we don't have the ball. And when we do get the ball, we're using it effectively, but it's not ending up in our forward 50.

A lot of this can be explained by the poor gameplan. Particularly our inability to generate i50s. But how much of it is players not running hard enough and not going hard enough at the ball?

From round 3 onwards, the stats I'll be looking out for are contested possessions, tackles, pressure acts and opponent DE%. When they improve, we will at least know we're giving great effort.

Why is everyone always so willing to believe that the players aren't trying?

All these stats can be simply and obviously explained by our shocking turnovers. It's very hard to put pressure on your direct opponent when you've just run off because we had the ball. Have a cup of tea and a lie down and you'll feel better.

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Why is everyone always so willing to believe that the players aren't trying?

All these stats can be simply and obviously explained by our shocking turnovers. It's very hard to put pressure on your direct opponent when you've just run off because we had the ball. Have a cup of tea and a lie down and you'll feel better.

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Quote from Lyon's press conference tonight.

"We hadn't been working as hard as we'd wanted to around the ball and tackling and pressuring."
 

ydraw

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Quote from Lyon's press conference tonight.

"We hadn't been working as hard as we'd wanted to around the ball and tackling and pressuring."

Ross Lyon has been wrong about a lot of things lately.
 

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Here is my melt , I got nothing to melt this week .
 
Oh come now Clarkson had the balls to move on two of his greats and kick start his new era , our bloke can't even move out or try hard scrubbers


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The same Hawks who are last on the ladder. Clarkson the supercoach.
 

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F@$K YOU CHANNEL 7 FOR DELAYING THE FREO VS MELBOURNE BROADCAST THIS WEEKEND BY THREE HOURS (actually 165 minutes, but still, F@&K YOU CHANNEL 7).

THAT'S A BLOODY OUTRAGE THAT IS!!!

I CALL SHENANIGANS!!!!
 
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