Docklands Stadium (Marvel Stadium) - Discussion

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Surely they can have White Hart Lane type screens built into the ends where the "Lockett" and "Coleman" signs are. Not sure how far down it can hang without impeding people's view though.
 

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Allan Shorty said:
Went and checked out Ron barassi Snr park last week. It's the spot I think for the new stadium once Etihad is demolished.
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no chance

1) too small

2) its now a community park area in a part of town with virtually none

3) it would be a logistical train wreck. no train station, ONE tram line (which would need to be extended), and one road into the area. gridlock for both pedestrians and cars would be insane
 
rfctiger74 said:
no chance

1) too small

2) its now a community park area in a part of town with virtually none

3) it would be a logistical train wreck. no train station, ONE tram line (which would need to be extended), and one road into the area. gridlock for both pedestrians and cars would be insane
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Paul Little & Murray Rance could run a ferry or 2/3... ;) .... to a newer 30/40/50k stadium (insert number here) to replace the current 20 year old facility.
Cue the think music Maestro :rolleyes:
 
Kwality said:
Paul Little & Murray Rance could run a ferry or 2/3... ;) .... to a newer 30/40/50k stadium (insert number here) to replace the current 20 year old facility.
Cue the think music Maestro :rolleyes:
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make it a smaller stadium, and the key killer is still there - logistics

for road, everything has to come down Docklands Drive - Footscray Road and Harbour Esplanade feeding into it.

the problem with Waverley was only one entrance on only one road, and this would repeat the mistake. You then say "park nearby", and all that parking is at Harbourtown or New Quay - on Footscray and Docklands Drive. This would be a recipe for traffic chaos, esp as docklands drive isn't designed for heavy traffic volume.

for pedestrians, the problems continue. Ferry isn't an option, because it moves too few at a time and would be coming from too far away. any pick up would need to be near a public transport hub. the prime one is Southbank, but that isn't geared for a courier service (the ferries there are tourist and booze cruise arrangements)

you also kill Southern Cross as a distribution avenue, as its a half hour walk. And with one tram line only coming in, it would be well below required capacity.

Barassi Park is far away from the high volume parking, public transport, road infrastructure that Etihad has access to, so bulldozing Etihad to relocate to a lesser location is insanity
 
rfctiger74 said:
make it a smaller stadium, and the key killer is still there - logistics

for road, everything has to come down Docklands Drive - Footscray Road and Harbour Esplanade feeding into it.

the problem with Waverley was only one entrance on only one road, and this would repeat the mistake. You then say "park nearby", and all that parking is at Harbourtown or New Quay - on Footscray and Docklands Drive. This would be a recipe for traffic chaos, esp as docklands drive isn't designed for heavy traffic volume.

for pedestrians, the problems continue. Ferry isn't an option, because it moves too few at a time and would be coming from too far away. any pick up would need to be near a public transport hub. the prime one is Southbank, but that isn't geared for a courier service (the ferries there are tourist and booze cruise arrangements)

you also kill Southern Cross as a distribution avenue, as its a half hour walk. And with one tram line only coming in, it would be well below required capacity.

Barassi Park is far away from the high volume parking, public transport, road infrastructure that Etihad has access to, so bulldozing Etihad to relocate to a lesser location is insanity
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Half hour ?
 
rfctiger74 said:
make it a smaller stadium, and the key killer is still there - logistics

for road, everything has to come down Docklands Drive - Footscray Road and Harbour Esplanade feeding into it.

the problem with Waverley was only one entrance on only one road, and this would repeat the mistake. You then say "park nearby", and all that parking is at Harbourtown or New Quay - on Footscray and Docklands Drive. This would be a recipe for traffic chaos, esp as docklands drive isn't designed for heavy traffic volume.

for pedestrians, the problems continue. Ferry isn't an option, because it moves too few at a time and would be coming from too far away. any pick up would need to be near a public transport hub. the prime one is Southbank, but that isn't geared for a courier service (the ferries there are tourist and booze cruise arrangements)

you also kill Southern Cross as a distribution avenue, as its a half hour walk. And with one tram line only coming in, it would be well below required capacity.

Barassi Park is far away from the high volume parking, public transport, road infrastructure that Etihad has access to, so bulldozing Etihad to relocate to a lesser location is insanity
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The insanity is Etihad where it is now. Let's clean this planning blight out and do it properly
 
Allan Shorty said:
The insanity is Etihad where it is now. Let's clean this planning blight out and do it properly
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by putting the stadium on a point with only one access road and no public transport?

also you realize that is govt land? The govt need to agree to rezone it from parkland AND to then sell it to the AFL. good luck getting council and the state govt to agree to this, esp with the green vote so strong in the inner city electorates
 

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BulldogJake said:
Sums up 95% of BF perfectly.
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Bullshit! It only if you look at the bae

....and the SPR board

....and the north board

....and the htb

....and the.... Ill just stop now :(
 
Bomberboyokay said:
It's next to a city loop train station. There's nothing insane about that.
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Etihad is literally the perfect place for a stadium. You could not have a better location if you tried. Perfect for public transport access both for metro AND regional visitors, close to amenities and venues, close to Wurundjeri way and therefore both the M2 and M1. Can't figure out what else you'd want.
 
Ideal situation would be too open up to the water side with some bars restaurants etc. and build the third bridge and some more things to do on the train side.
 
How is the improved deal for some tenant clubs travelling ?

Stadium Operations Limited, wholly-owned by the AFL:
SOL's 2016 accounts were recently lodged with a corporate regulator and have been seen by The Australian Financial Review.

The accounts are complex, befitting the stadium's complex structure, and show an accounting loss of about $30 million last year. But that is mainly due to the amortisation of matters such as the original AFL payment about 18 years ago.

In reality the stadium made an operating profit of about $3 million from revenue of about $76 million in 2016, though those figures were each down $3 million from the previous year.
http://www.afr.com/business/sport/w...ts-200-million-etihad-stadium-20170507-gvzo33


No wonder the clubs are operating under the same deal as before the AFL took ownership, complete with $280 mil debt.
 
Kwality said:
How is the improved deal for some tenant clubs travelling ?

Stadium Operations Limited, wholly-owned by the AFL:
SOL's 2016 accounts were recently lodged with a corporate regulator and have been seen by The Australian Financial Review.

The accounts are complex, befitting the stadium's complex structure, and show an accounting loss of about $30 million last year. But that is mainly due to the amortisation of matters such as the original AFL payment about 18 years ago.

In reality the stadium made an operating profit of about $3 million from revenue of about $76 million in 2016, though those figures were each down $3 million from the previous year.
http://www.afr.com/business/sport/w...ts-200-million-etihad-stadium-20170507-gvzo33


No wonder the clubs are operating under the same deal as before the AFL took ownership, complete with $280 mil debt.
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You mean there wont we rivers of gold for the tenant clubs?!?!?!? Well * me dead and call me martha
 
It's quite funny this way. $280 million if funded by debt at 7.5% (for corporate type debts) works out to be 21 million interest cost.
So, getting Etihad early with a negative return of 18 million down the drain each year. Even if it was purchased out of cash, assuming a 1.0% interest rate on cash deposit, it's a grand cost of $2.8 million for getting $3 million back. Well done AFL!

Two other things, the video screens on level 3 are a joke. Too small and dated for today's day and age. Same thing for the big screen. Just small enough for it to be annoying and just big enough for people to claim, "Hey, it's a big screen!".

Also, has anyone noticed the ACL injuries increasing in recent times on Docklands?

Adam Kennedy being the latest victim while jumping and landing on the Docklands turf.
 
Is it possible for Etihad to retrofit the screens like Perth Stadium, and to remove the corner pieces?
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