Because currently, it's like he's unfamiliar with how to handle physical contact with the contested ball.
he has played 45 AFL games.. if he can't get used to it by now..
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Because currently, it's like he's unfamiliar with how to handle physical contact with the contested ball.
I think it's a fair criticism. From the Peel games that I have watched, Tabs really struggles to impose himself on the game early and seems to come into his own in the second half. I think this is because he doesn't have enough speed to get separation from his defender and doesn't have the core strength to win in a body on body contest. As the game wears on and his defender tires he is able to get separation and is able to hold his marks.Peels midfield has been getting spanked early in games though. Do you expect Tabs to run up the ground and get his own ball then kick it to himself? That is an unfair criticism.
The guy is 199cm, has played 45 AFL games and should be smashing it at WAFL level.
To put poor delivery as an excuse is not a good indication. When the game is on the line in one of the match in wafl he kick 1:5 totally kill your midfielder spirit with grey , balic, croz playing in that match . Peel mid only get smash when Griffin come in to further slow down the team . Is hard to support peel now but I still go and watch them play hoping one or two tall playing reserve.He is a tall forward and they are only as good as the delivery from the midfielders, so to have the 2nd most goals in the WAFL when you have poor service (peel's midfield has been resoundingly beaten), that is smashing it.
Nah I agree with the others and think you have to watch Tabs live to understand his issues fully. Looking at his stats doesn't give you a clear picture. Just like guys that can rack up 30+ disposals - sometimes their impact can be far less than another player who has half as many.He is a tall forward and they are only as good as the delivery from the midfielders, so to have the 2nd most goals in the WAFL when you have poor service (peel's midfield has been resoundingly beaten), that is smashing it.
Don't want to get into a pointless argument, and I do think Tabs has potential, but I have to respectfully disagree. I'm not sure where you get that the delivery has been poor. Do you go and watch the games, because I have watched several and the delivery has often been fine but he has dropped marks which he should have taken. This is against WAFL level defenders, and for mine he is not smashing it - he is adequate. Personal opinion, and I'll leave it at that.He is a tall forward and they are only as good as the delivery from the midfielders, so to have the 2nd most goals in the WAFL when you have poor service (peel's midfield has been resoundingly beaten), that is smashing it.
if he did that at AFL level, that would be goodDon't want to get into a pointless argument, and I do think Tabs has potential, but I have to respectfully disagree. I'm not sure where you get that the delivery has been poor. Do you go and watch the games, because I have watched several and the delivery has often been fine but he has dropped marks which he should have taken. This is against WAFL level defenders, and for mine he is not smashing it - he is adequate. Personal opinion, and I'll leave it at that.
Round 1 - 1 goal
Round 2 - 5 goals
Round 3 - 1 goal
Round 4 - 4 goals
Round 5 - 3 goals
Not if freo lost thought, he will be a whipping boy if he don't perform when selected. When you look at wafl game the match peel win with tab playing is easy opponent like east Perth and east freo who is bottom of the table.if he did that at AFL level, that would be good
OK play him , just don't send him back to peel ever again is now or never ( delisted) ,without s.hill delivery will there be another excuse if he can't mark. I rather play him against essendon , if freo not doing well vs eagles tab will get whip .If Tabs 14.10 (2.8 average) at WAFL is inadequate, that is fine.
But the best we are getting at AFL is 1.2 goal average from our leading goalkickers in Mundy (6.3), Neale (6.3) and McCarthy (6.10). I'll pay you the points on Tabs being Inadequate, but he comes out of the same systems in the club that train our other forwards.
In the league totals, Betts leads with 19 goals compared to our best being 6, our best forwards goal tallies put them at an equal 53rd in the competition for leading goal kicker. Tabs is inadequate but on that measure, our other AFL forwards are woeful.
I think it's a fair criticism. From the Peel games that I have watched, Tabs really struggles to impose himself on the game early and seems to come into his own in the second half. I think this is because he doesn't have enough speed to get separation from his defender and doesn't have the core strength to win in a body on body contest. As the game wears on and his defender tires he is able to get separation and is able to hold his marks.
I agree with meima that we need to see him winning one on one contests right from the start of the game - quite often Peel are well behind before Tabs really starts to get into the game. It's not just about the delivery, it's about his ability to soften his hands and take the ball at its highest point.
The guy is 199cm, has played 45 AFL games and should be smashing it at WAFL level. I think he is working hard with Hale to improve the contested marking side of his game as well as his rucking, and if he can sort these things out he will be a really handy guy to bring in.
At the moment I think he is a below average tall forward / ruckman but maybe the best we have fit unfortunately.
Get him in , he will be under a lot of pressure that is for sure and will be notice if the team is not winning after freo getting three win , he will be the first to go back to peel . I am more than happy for his inclusion .there is no more excuses if peel win without tab.Sorry disagree. The idea that Tabs lacks speed and core strength and therefore is able to work into games is pretty odd.
I have been to 4 of the games and Peel have been getting smacked in the midfield from what I've seen, seemingly worse when Grif is on the ball.
I would like to see Tabs take more contested marks, but I think you guys are pretty unfair on him. He has been good and if not for round 3 poor kicking would be leading WAFL goalkicker.
I reckon it wouldn't matter what he did with some of you blokes.
The guy is 199cm, has played 45 AFL games and should be smashing it at WAFL level.
Sorry disagree. The idea that Tabs lacks speed and core strength and therefore is able to work into games is pretty odd.
I have been to 4 of the games and Peel have been getting smacked in the midfield from what I've seen, seemingly worse when Grif is on the ball.
I would like to see Tabs take more contested marks, but I think you guys are pretty unfair on him. He has been good and if not for round 3 poor kicking would be leading WAFL goalkicker.
I reckon it wouldn't matter what he did with some of you blokes.
Totally agree, especially now freo forward line look dangerous with mid pushing forward and unpredictable. if tab going to play for freo please release logue back to peel . sherriden, ibbo ,spurr is a bit boring .Would much rather see him come in later and play a couple of great games than come in too early, lose confidence and be dropped again.
With respect Peel is a very very distant 2nd in importance and if Freo decide that getting games into their lumbering tall timber at the cost of Peels season then there wouldn't be a 2nd thought to do so.Get him in , he will be under a lot of pressure that is for sure and will be notice if the team is not winning after freo getting three win , he will be the first to go back to peel . I am more than happy for his inclusion .there is no more excuses if peel win without tab.
* if apeness available no way peel will win with all the giant slow tall playing vs east Perth .
With respect Peel is a very very distant 2nd in importance and if Freo decide that getting games into their lumbering tall timber at the cost of Peels season then there wouldn't be a 2nd thought to do so.
Yes...and this is the problem with the alignment model and why both Peel and East Perth are unhappy with it.
You are really short sighted, if your development players keep losing game they won't have a winning mentality. There will be no more Blakely , langdon, grey type able to be promote or give good backup . Look at eagles , their alignment with East Perth is so bad that eventually affect them when their key players injured.With respect Peel is a very very distant 2nd in importance and if Freo decide that getting games into their lumbering tall timber at the cost of Peels season then there wouldn't be a 2nd thought to do so.