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What a jokeGreater Victoria is bidding for the Commonwealth Games.
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What a jokeGreater Victoria is bidding for the Commonwealth Games.
its going to be in shepparton, bendigo, ballarat, geelong, traralgon and other placesWhat a joke
Greater Victoria is bidding for the Commonwealth Games.
I can't speak to the other regions involved but having previously worked in tourism development in Shepparton for a number of years they do have a highly developed events market hosting national quality events (including national championships) in a number of sports including regularly hostingcycling, bmx, bowls, triathlon, half ironman.What a joke
I can't speak to the other regions involved but having previously worked in tourism development in Shepparton for a number of years they do have a highly developed events market hosting national quality events (including national championships) in a number of sports including regularly hostingcycling, bmx, bowls, triathlon, half ironman.
I know most city slickers (including politicians) can't see beyond their concrete jungles but the regional areas in Victoria have a lot to offer. Just because it's different doesn't make it bad.
It is a terrible idea, why waste money building a 40k seat stadium in a town of 30k makes ******* sense. You have hosted D grade events you mention bowls FFSI can't speak to the other regions involved but having previously worked in tourism development in Shepparton for a number of years they do have a highly developed events market hosting national quality events (including national championships) in a number of sports including regularly hostingcycling, bmx, bowls, triathlon, half ironman.
I know most city slickers (including politicians) can't see beyond their concrete jungles but the regional areas in Victoria have a lot to offer. Just because it's different doesn't make it bad.
I would just like to point out Bendigo, Ballarat & Geelong are around or over 100k in population. The Greater Shepparton region has over 60k (Not to mention another 45k in the neighbouring Moira & Benella shire regions which are no farther away than east to west Melbourne). The Mildura region is over 50k, Albury/Wodonga over 80k etc. There is in fact there is approx 1.5 million people in regional Victoria all of which would be within 1 hour of at least one of the proposed participating regional centres.It is a terrible idea, why waste money building a 40k seat stadium in a town of 30k makes ******* sense. You have hosted D grade events you mention bowls FFS
Australia has always lacked forward direction when it comes to rail transport. Too much bureaucracy and doesn't look like changing anytime soon. It's a shame really, even America is building fast rail...Instead of spending a couple of billion dollars on a white elephant, how about developing a fast train project that will make regional centres accessible and allow families to be able to live in regional areas and work in the city and only spend 30 minutes on the train.. We desperately need to upgrade our antiquated transport system and provide people with the opportunity of owning their own property.
I don't think that Melbourne or Australia for that matter should bid again for a long, long time. Even with its existing facilities Melbourne would still need to spend billions upgrading and building venues for a one-off party for 15,000 freeloaders. Then there's the security bill, and the fact the billions would largely be spent around the inner city at the expense of the outer suburbs and regional areas where infrastructure is already struggling and not keeping pace with Melbourne’s growth. Melbourne, quite frankly has so many other things that it desperately needs to spend $5 billion on in order to cope with its growing population today, not to mention the fact that its population will top 6 million by 2030. An Olympic Games would be an absolute frevolity.
At least the State Government have announced that they have started the process for what will eventually become a $10 billion project to build the freeway link from the Ring Road through to the Eastlink. That will not be cheap, but it will be a vital bit of infrastructure (needed now but will desperately be needed in 10 years time when its finished). They've already committed $11 billion to building the new rail tunnels and there's the link being built from the Tullamarine Freeway to the west of the Westgate Freeway. There is a lot of money tied up in these projects and the government are still yet to announce future major funding for the MCG (upwards of $400 million), Etihad Stadium ($350 million), Simonds Stadium ($40 million to replace the Ford Stand) and Eureka Stadium ($11 million for Stage 2).Yeah it always sounds a bit scroogish, but the last 10-15 years Melbourne's growth in population has so far outstripped the growth in infrastructure its not funny. We are starting to catch up a bit, but yeah need to put our heads down and get our s**t together a bit first.
I think that that is the underlying idea behind the bid. It is to fast track spending on broader statewide infrastructure to push more toward decentralisation away from Melbourne. If Melbourne keeps growing at its current pace it will neither be livable, nor workable in 50 years from now. It makes sense to push growth away from the metropolitan hub and into the regions in order to sustain affordability of living and the livability of Melbourne for future generations.Instead of spending a couple of billion dollars on a white elephant, how about developing a fast train project that will make regional centres accessible and allow families to be able to live in regional areas and work in the city and only spend 30 minutes on the train.. We desperately need to upgrade our antiquated transport system and provide people with the opportunity of owning their own property.
I think that that is the underlying idea behind the bid. It is to fast track spending on broader statewide infrastructure to push more toward decentralisation away from Melbourne. If Melbourne keeps growing at its current pace it will neither be livable, nor workable in 50 years from now. It makes sense to push growth away from the metropolitan hub and into the regions in order to sustain affordability of living and the livability of Melbourne for future generations.
I think that that is the underlying idea behind the bid.
plus the fact the world cup is expanding to 48 teams. plus we would have to beat China. plus FIFA are corrupt bastards who take the world cup to Qatar of all places.Your costings for hosting a FIFA World cup are significantly out, estimated cost is somewhere between 6 and 11 billion for the Brazil world cup, depending on the source:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2014/06/11/conomics-by-the-numbers.html
There is also the confederations cup that must be hosted in the country one year before the world cup that has a cost involved. You also have to build fan zones in each of those host cities that carry significant costs, plus training venues that must be at a certain standard.
I find an Olympics much more inclusive as we have a variety of sports that can inspire a greater number of people to actively get involved in those sports.
In saying that, we should be bidding for both the FIFA World cup and another Olympics. Brisbane weather wise is at an advantage, but infrastructure wise would require a minimum of double, but closer to triple the budget of what Melbourne or Sydney would need.
We should be bidding for the next available world cup though!
Mate you should volunteer for them. A fun experience. I did this in 2006. Would do it again.What a joke
Mate you should volunteer for them. A fun experience. I did this in 2006. Would do it again.
They are not proposing a 40,000 stadium for Shepparton. The Athletics and Opening and Closing Ceremonies are proposed for Geelong (Which by 2022 will have a 40,000 capacity stadium). All other events are proposed to be conducted in regional cities and towns that mostly already have world-class facilities. Benidigo's new Aquatic Centre and existing velodrome would be utilised, while Ballarat's new Indoor Sports Centre would host Netball, and Ballarat has a Badminton Centre considered second to none. Lake Nagambie is considered one of the best rowing courses in the country, Lake Mulwalla has been touted to host yachting, while shooting and archery could easily be accommodated at Puckapunyal (which has state of the art ranges) for example. There are a multitude of other facilities around regional Victoria such as Ballarat's Regional Soccer Facility which could easily be adapted to host hockey, but Shepparton I believe are looking to host that. The fields and venues are all largely in place and capable of hosting first class competition, all that is needed at many would be temporary scaffold stands to accommodate spectators. Each of Victoria's major regional cities have large indoor entertainment centres that are perfect for hosting gymnastics, weight-lifting and other arena events.It is a terrible idea, why waste money building a 40k seat stadium in a town of 30k makes ******* sense. You have hosted D grade events you mention bowls FFS
It will never happen Simonds Stadium while it may have a capacity of 40k the playing arena is to small. It would require the stands to be pulled down and rebuilt again when we have just paid a 100 million or so for the last redevelopmentThey are not proposing a 40,000 stadium for Shepparton. The Athletics and Opening and Closing Ceremonies are proposed for Geelong (Which by 2022 will have a 40,000 capacity stadium). All other events are proposed to be conducted in regional cities and towns that mostly already have world-class facilities. Benidigo's new Aquatic Centre and existing velodrome would be utilised, while Ballarat's new Indoor Sports Centre would host Netball, and Ballarat has a Badminton Centre considered second to none. Lake Nagambie is considered one of the best rowing courses in the country, Lake Mulwalla has been touted to host yachting, while shooting and archery could easily be accommodated at Puckapunyal (which has state of the art ranges) for example. There are a multitude of other facilities around regional Victoria such as Ballarat's Regional Soccer Facility which could easily be adapted to host hockey, but Shepparton I believe are looking to host that. The fields and venues are all largely in place and capable of hosting first class competition, all that is needed at many would be temporary scaffold stands to accommodate spectators. Each of Victoria's major regional cities have large indoor entertainment centres that are perfect for hosting gymnastics, weight-lifting and other arena events.
That said, the idea is by no means signed-off upon yet, and no doubt the cities and towns involved are formulating their ideas and identifying the best potential venues and suitable sports. Once their plan is finalised, they will go 'as one' to the State and Federal Governments and of course the Australian Commonwealth Games Committee to gain support. This will need to be done ideally within an eight to ten year time frame before 2030 to allow for successive governments to implement a plan to support the games.
As you say, it may turn out to be unfeasible, but at least let the key stakeholders investigate it and fully do their business case first.