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Norm Smith Medallist
Mar 29, 2010
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Now i'm a supporter, but now we are clearly 14th on the ladder, and are deadset rebuilding, what happens to Frodo ? I think we have to be ruthless, just like the 3 blokes that are getting games at other clubs.
He cannot get another contract IMO. Discuss.
 

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wild side

Norm Smith Medallist
Mar 29, 2010
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A very good player, I would try to trade him but if we don't get an offer for him offer him a 1 year deal.

We have a lot of players to delist before him, but if he gets us a 2nd or 3rd round pick I would take it.

Didn't happen last year, so I'd doubt it will happen later this year.
Been a great servant, but now is the time.
 

Admiral Byng

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He has still got it and could be worth one more year. We have no other small forwards that are exactly keeping him out of the team. Unless they are targeting another small forward in the next draft we might as well keep him on for another year.
 
Sep 20, 2014
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Love what he's been able to do coming back into the side. It really shines the light back on Grey and Crozier when you compare the 3. I'm not sold on playing all 3 at once. Although given where we are can't have Ballantyne at that age taking away youth opportunities. Would still like to keep him for another year - hopefully Grey will improve playing alongside him.
 
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Now i'm a supporter, but now we are clearly 14th on the ladder, and are deadset rebuilding, what happens to Frodo ? I think we have to be ruthless, just like the 3 blokes that are getting games at other clubs.
He cannot get another contract IMO. Discuss.

Ok. Do the exercise and if you can't get to ten players who should be gone before him I'd be ******* astounded.

Easily gets another year for mine.

Here's mine:

Griffin, Clarke, Dawson, Suban, Taberner Sheridan Ibbotson Spurr Yarran and Crozier. Crozier would be safe. If I had to choose


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wayToGo_

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Yep I'm all for the rebuild but another year imo. Think all the smalls in the forward line are better with his presence there. Think it takes some pressure off Walters as well. Still got a long way to go but I thought the forward's pressure was great most of today. Thought the inside 50 entries were a lot better at times too. Saw some (emphasis on some) progress up forward (finally!) and think Ballas is part of that.
 

IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN

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Feb 8, 2010
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Now i'm a supporter, but now we are clearly 14th on the ladder, and are deadset rebuilding, what happens to Frodo ? I think we have to be ruthless, just like the 3 blokes that are getting games at other clubs.
He cannot get another contract IMO. Discuss.
There's about 10 blokes you would chop before Ballas. Is safe until the end if 2019 surely.
 

meima

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Keep ballas one year with the option of two ( depend on performance).
 

Admiral Byng

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If we delist too many this year we'll be scraping the bottom of the draft at pick 80+ looking for replacements. Unless we have a super perceptive and switched-on recruiting team (which we don't) we are not going to uncover a load of hidden gems that far down the draft. So might as well keep a couple of older players on for another year rather than recruit a younger spud who is never going to make it.
 

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Now i'm a supporter, but now we are clearly 14th on the ladder, and are deadset rebuilding, what happens to Frodo ? I think we have to be ruthless, just like the 3 blokes that are getting games at other clubs.
He cannot get another contract IMO. Discuss.

Wow a post I agree with you on.

Its really time to move on from him and he doesn't offer any leadership aspects either.
 

Ysaye

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Nov 10, 2005
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Depends.

One of the conditions is Bennell's hamstrings - if Bennell miraculously gets it all right then happy for him to go but TBH having him there offers a level of confidence to the other young forwards and demonstrates a high level of commitment which can only be a good for their development.
 

meima

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Depends.

One of the conditions is Bennell's hamstrings - if Bennell miraculously gets it all right then happy for him to go but TBH having him there offers a level of confidence to the other young forwards and demonstrates a high level of commitment which can only be a good for their development.
I thought in bennell case is his calf . Didn't know he got hammy issue as well.
 

mattis117

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Now i'm a supporter, but now we are clearly 14th on the ladder, and are deadset rebuilding, what happens to Frodo ? I think we have to be ruthless, just like the 3 blokes that are getting games at other clubs.
He cannot get another contract IMO. Discuss.
I think we'll lose enough players already. Dawson, Ibbotson, D. Pearce, Yarran. Question marks over Suttcliffe, does Apeness continue to take up a spot, where is Zac Clarke at? Where is Sandi at? Some big question marks over enough players already.

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ydraw

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Apr 27, 2015
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I think we'll lose enough players already. Dawson, Ibbotson, D. Pearce, Yarran. Question marks over Suttcliffe, does Apeness continue to take up a spot, where is Zac Clarke at? Where is Sandi at? Some big question marks over enough players already.

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It's not about spots on the list as much as it's about spots on the field. Sure we have room for Ballantyne on the list, but what's the point of playing a 31-year old in a rebuild? We should be looking to develop a young player as a small forward.
 

theGav56

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Would Ballantyne be happy playing at Peel if the club choose to play a younger man? He may love it, but unless he sees himself as best 22 I think he may elect to retire.
 

jedi mind tricks

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Mar 13, 2011
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Definitely should get a one year deal. Would prefer to pay out Danyle Pearce if we need a list spot.

We might come to some agreement with DP with regards to a mutual payout. It would be a reduced rate as another team will pick up the rest.

I have it from another poster who doesn't post on here often these days that he wants back to SA to finish his career. The only issue is an SA club wanting him as they are so strong and I doubt need him.
 

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