Bluemour Discussion Thread IV

[gandaal]

With all due respect, i never changed the criteria once. Look back at all of my posts, i clearly state why i rate KPF's ahead of equally talented midfielders

If there's a KF as good that as Kelly is a midfielder then let's get that guy. I don't think he's available tbh for trade or in the draft.

 

[rog1995]

Not all clubs repeat stupidity

So what's the best contested mark in the comp worth for a club that is struggling to kick goals? The reason I ask is we have won 5 games this year and and lead in the last quarter in 5 other games. We're on the right track and getting rid of Levi exposes Charlie and Co.

 

[Arr0w]

If there's a KF as good that as Kelly is a midfielder then let's get that guy. I don't think he's available tbh for trade or in the draft.

Well mate until Kelly nominates us, neither is he

 

[Arr0w]

So what's the best contested mark in the comp worth for a club that is struggling to kick goals?

Surely we would need him the most then?

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Well mate until Kelly nominates us, neither is he

St Kilda would have the bargaining power come trade week, but considering our KPs on the list, and what other clubs would give up to get into the first round, I'd say we'd be in the race as well.

 

[gandaal]

Well mate until Kelly nominates us, neither is he

That is true enough

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

IF and that's a big IF pick 3 plus change is what would get the Kelly deal done, then it's done. He is worth pick 3 in this draft all day long.

 

[Blue__Balls]

So what's the best contested mark in the comp worth for a club that is struggling to kick goals? The reason I ask is we have won 5 games this year and and lead in the last quarter in 5 other games. We're on the right track and getting rid of Levi unleashes Charlie and Co.

EFA.

2018 could be a big year for Charlie. Will ride the confidence he's found in the last month right through a big preseason campaign and into next season - he'll be stronger, faster and smarter, and the delivery should improve. 40 goals is my tip.

 

[Zlatan]

IF and that's a big IF pick 3 plus change is what would get the Kelly deal done, then it's done. He is worth pick 3 in this draft all day long.

Thanks mate. Any idea about what to expect re: Kelly staying or leaving as in 80/20 etc?

 

[RudyBlue]

IF and that's a big IF pick 3 plus change is what would get the Kelly deal done, then it's done. He is worth pick 3 in this draft all day long.

Would prefer to throw them our 2018 1st and change

 

[HBF]

Would prefer to throw them our 2018 1st and change

Nah make it this year.
Next years draft is much stronger, and I think we can afford to trade out pick 3 especially if Gibbs ends up leaving and we come back into the 1st round anyway.

 

[cookie monster]

IF and that's a big IF pick 3 plus change is what would get the Kelly deal done, then it's done. He is worth pick 3 in this draft all day long.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the product of having LIST MANAGEMENT STRATEGY and GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE.

Something we haven't previously had at Carlton, and something our friends at Collingwood still seem devoid of

 

[zeeCFC]

I know Levi is a big idiot and can struggle with the easiest football skills but he's still damn vital to our already poor forward structure and he's shown he's a bloody loyal Carlton fan.

I wouldn't take anything less than a 1st round pick for him. If a club wants to offer a contract that would trigger that FA compo for us then let it be.

If he signs and stays on then I'll start to really think of him as a serious Bluebagger

 

[bluekidjoe]

Any goss on the strength of the Hopper connection? To get both Kelly and Hopper would pretty much complete the midfield for the next decade.

 

[Malifice]

IF and that's a big IF pick 3 plus change is what would get the Kelly deal done, then it's done. He is worth pick 3 in this draft all day long.

Absolutely.

Give us a tidbit man. Its been a long break between drinks.

 

[Arr0w]

St Kilda would have the bargaining power come trade week, but considering our KPs on the list, and what other clubs would give up to get into the first round, I'd say we'd be in the race as well.

Absolutely Stig, have never questioned that we could be one of the contenders

 

[1981]

IF and that's a big IF pick 3 plus change is what would get the Kelly deal done, then it's done. He is worth pick 3 in this draft all day long.

This doesn't read as a rumour to me, or am I wrong Marc?

I agree pick 3 and change would be a no brainer.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

Any goss on the strength of the Hopper connection? To get both Kelly and Hopper would pretty much complete the midfield for the next decade.

They'd bring it up to speed in the short term, but for the next decade Murphy & Gibbs would need replacing

 

[therubbernub]

Thats a bit of a generalisation. Daniher, Lynch and Kennedy are all pretty good when the ball hits the ground.

Hipwood

 

[GordonBlue]

IF and that's a big IF pick 3 plus change is what would get the Kelly deal done, then it's done. He is worth pick 3 in this draft all day long.

I fear they'll demand 2 first rounders. As such they'll wait to see what Adelaide offers us for Gibbs and demand that. We must hold off giving them both picks

 

[GordonBlue]

I know Levi is a big idiot and can struggle with the easiest football skills but he's still damn vital to our already poor forward structure and he's shown he's a bloody loyal Carlton fan.

I wouldn't take anything less than a 1st round pick for him. If a club wants to offer a contract that would trigger that FA compo for us then let it be.

If he signs and stays on then I'll start to really think of him as a serious Bluebagger

Trading contracted, yes. Uncontracted then can't see us offering him that much to trigger 1st round compo

 

[Jorge]

There is a good chance Ben Silvagni is a top 10-20 pick.

Where is this actually coming from? Based on the pathway Jack followed, i'm assuming Ben has little/no exposed TAC or Championships form.
Yet it seems cold hard fact on this board that he's a star in the making.

 

[rp84]

Where is this actually coming from? Based on the pathway Jack followed, i'm assuming Ben has little/no exposed TAC or Championships form.
Yet it seems cold hard fact on this board that he's a star in the making.

The facts are he is a 195+cm smooth moving natural forward who just pantsed a highly rated potential top 20 defender in a school game. Has good hands and is a good kick.

Players like that don't drop out of the first round. If he kicks 10 goals at the 2018 champs, he will be a top 10-20 prospect.

 

[Weiterbot23]

They'd bring it up to speed in the short term, but for the next decade Murphy & Gibbs would need replacing

Agree

Anyone older than Doc doesn't exist in the rebuild.

Hopper and Kelly would be huge

Cripps, Kelly, Hopper, SPS, Cunningham

You only need to add 1-2 quality players to that and they could all play together for 10 years

 

[Jorge]

The facts are he is a 195+cm smooth moving natural forward who just pantsed a highly rated potential top 20 defender in a school game. Has good hands and is a good kick.

Players like that don't drop out of the first round. If he kicks 10 goals at the 2018 champs, he will be a top 10-20 prospect.

Fair enough. My question was legitimate.. people seem to be talking about him but I haven't actually seen any stats or anyone talking about his actual performances. Obviously good to hear though. Where can I find info about this alleged pantsing?