Strategy Trade and List Management thread 3 (...The pining for the departed. Edition)

[scooter600x]

Our first and a young non-top tier mid is fair value. That I would also do.

Isn't Webb the only one of them we have?

 

[SayerTheCreator]

Our first and a young non-top tier mid is fair value. That I would also do.

Do we even have any of those?

Webb, Dunkley, Hamilton...

 

[grassman75]

Lever for 2 first found picks.... Pass.

What about if we first found the picks in the later rounds?

 

[goodcop badcop]

Depends how high our first rounder is.

Jake Carlisle was worth pick 5 and Craig Bird. Adelaide would expect at least something similar to that.

 

[grassman75]

Do we even have any of those?

Webb, Dunkley, Hamilton...

We are not trading a nephew of a Jarman to Adelaide under any circumstances....

 

[Dry Rot]

99.956% of what is posted in this thread is pointless, but we still keep posting it.

Agreed.

By coincidence, my posts make up 0.044% of this thread.

 

[Martyn_30_]

It's important to remember the age of the group, on the weekend a rebuilding team with tiring youngsters in Carlton were 21 days younger on average than the Bulldogs. Carlton had 5 players 21 and under the Bulldogs had 7. Even when you take the age out a bit further to youngish players 25 and under it was Carlton with 14 and the Bulldogs with 16.


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[Gollo]

Do we even have any of those?

Webb, Dunkley, Hamilton...

Surprised you rate Dunkley so lowly, especially when I've heard cries for a legitimate inside mid for our best 22 all season long.

 

[ScragCity]

People who think Adelaide will be looking to get two first rounders have to remember that he's out of contract. Two firsts is what you ask for when you have the leverage (Carlton with Gibbs). Adelaide will settle for a first and a second if he requests a trade. If they will accept that for DANGERFIELD they will accept it for Lever.

 

[dergert]

What about if we first found the picks in the later rounds?

Considering he was pick 11 or so in his draft, im basing my opinion on that he has only added to his value. One top ten pick with steak knives maximum or I could stomach two late teens picks.
In the end im just a nuffy on a couch with no idea. If the deal falls through I'd back Dal with whatever picks he is given.

 

[SayerTheCreator]

Surprised you rate Dunkley so lowly, especially when I've heard cries for a legitimate inside mid for our best 22 all season long.

I don't, was just wondering what "non-top tier mids" we have.

I think he's great ftr

 

[ab_83]

We are not trading a nephew of a Jarman to Adelaide under any circumstances....

Maybe that was the plan all along. Sign Hamilton for an additional year and use him and his Jarman connection as trade bait to Adelaide for Lever. Astute list management strategy by us.

 

[SayerTheCreator]

Maybe that was the plan all along. Sign Hamilton for an additional year and use him and his Jarman connection as trade bait to Adelaide for Lever. Astute list management strategy by us.

One could even say we're planning on using him as... Lever-age






......I'll show myself out. It's been a long Monday.

 

[Pugz89]

I rate Lever so highly but another little issue I have is these hamstring problems that are popping up. I think I saw someone say that his current hamstring issues could be related to his previous ACL where they use the tendon as he graft (possibly explains Bobs hamstring issues this year). I'm sure the club is all over this though.

Agreed but then I also remember how many issues Easton had with his hammy's and now they seem to be over it, maybe our medical staff can do similar things with Lever.

 

[TempletonTheRat]

Ugh. Surely Dale's worked hard enough to secure his spot that he won't be an arrogant prick about it on field.

don't worry there is no arrogance with Bailey

FWIW I'm hoping he can develop into the next Keith Greig.

 

[Pugz89]

While they won't turn down a first rounder, if they end up getting first round offers from us, the Demons and the Saints then I wouldn't put it pass them to accept a lesser offer from either of them before us. They did take it really hard over the Talia situation in 2015 which was handled in a dodgy manner by the AFL.

Player has to agree to the trade, as he is still technically contracted during the trade period which limits the Crows' power.

 

[fronkalicious]

Adelaide get 2 firsts
Dogs get lever and their 2018 second.

 

[Hoges64]

Adelaide get 2 firsts
Dogs get lever and their 2018 second.

This just feels so wrong. I'll be relatively unhappy if this is what we have to give up. And I rate Lever very highly.

 

[Substance]

Adelaide get 2 firsts
Dogs get lever and their 2018 second.

Where do we get the 2nd pick from? future 2018?

 

[fronkalicious]

Where do we get the 2nd pick from? future 2018?

Yep.

Big price, but I think it's about right. He's ridiculous.

And isn't 2018 supposed to be a much better draft? And the Crows may not finish as high as they will this year. So a 2018 2nd has good value.

 

[Doggy]

Yep.

Big price, but I think it's about right. He's ridiculous.

And isn't 2018 supposed to be a much better draft? And the Crows may not finish as high as they will this year. So a 2018 2nd has good value.

Lever's hamstrings are made of glass

 

[Dogs Rule]

Lever's hamstrings are made of glass

Safety glass or normal glass? Big difference.

 

[Doggy]

Safety glass or normal glass? Big difference.

Weakest glass possible

 

[ScragCity]

Isn't Webb the only one of them we have?

Webb, Jong, Smith, Lipinski, Dunkley, Macrae, Hamilton

 

[Gollo]

Yep.

Big price, but I think it's about right. He's ridiculous.

And isn't 2018 supposed to be a much better draft? And the Crows may not finish as high as they will this year. So a 2018 2nd has good value.

Quick tip - every draft is a superdraft one year out. I highly doubt the 2018 pool will be a stronger draft than 2017 by any major stretch. It will probably run slightly deeper, but there isn't going to be that much of a difference in player quality for a 2018 vs 2017 second rounder.