Live Event 2017 AFL Draft - #2, #5, #42, #60, #66, #70, #77, #80, #90

Which players do we take with #2 & #5?

  • Luke Davies-Uniacke

    Votes: 128 77.6%

  • Cameron Rayner

    Votes: 25 15.2%

  • Darcy Fogarty

    Votes: 42 25.5%

  • Adam Cerra

    Votes: 12 7.3%

  • Jaidyn Stephenson

    Votes: 8 4.8%

  • Paddy Dow

    Votes: 28 17.0%

  • Andrew Brayshaw

    Votes: 56 33.9%

  • Jack Higgins

    Votes: 3 1.8%

  • Sam Hayes

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Jarrod Brander

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Aaron Naughton

    Votes: 8 4.8%

  • Oscar Allen

    Votes: 4 2.4%

  • Nick Coffield

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Charlie Constable

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Hunter Clark

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • Noah Balta

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • Aiden Bonar

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Total voters
    165
  • Poll closed .

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Given the number of players that are likely to be delisted prior to the 2017 draft, if Freo do use pick #5 on a KPF, and given Freo have no 2nd round pick, where do people think Freo are going to get the rest of the replacement players they need ... via 3rd,4th & 5th round picks and rookies?
Sorry, but people are kidding themselves if they think Freo are going to use pick #5 without trading down.
 
Wizard said:
If he is available it has to be Brander!

There are no ifs and buts about this in my mind. We need a monster!
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I am a massive Brander fan, but he is no monster. Based on what I have seen, Jack Riewoldt might be the best comparison (but certainly not perfect).


stobes said:
I think we have 2 options
1 Freo keep 5 and get Brander
or
2 Freo trade pick 5, Balic or Weller and 3rd rounder to St Kilda for their 1st round pick and the 1st round pick they receive from the Hawks this year. Based on the ladder predictor and assumed results this could be picks 7 and 8 which would provide the options we need for Naughton plus a pick to trade if required
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I am not sure how trading out Weller (a fast mid/for/def who is also a good kick) for ANOTHER KPD is good business. I would much rather just keep Weller and pick 5. Take Stephenson, Fogarty or whoever if we don't rate Brander or if he is not available.

Tayl0r said:
Our list position at the moment could use an early twenties key forward more than an 18 year old prospective tall.

The list of available options for that aren't very long though.

Speedy long kicking left footer would be nice too.
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We might as well say we could use the second coming of Carey or Pav.

I hope goal kicking mids are high on the priorities list as well.
 
PurpleEyes said:
Given the number of players that are likely to be delisted prior to the 2017 draft, if Freo do use pick #5 on a KPF, and given Freo have no 2nd round pick, where do people think Freo are going to get the rest of the replacement players they need ... via 3rd,4th & 5th round picks and rookies?
Sorry, but people are kidding themselves if they think Freo are going to use pick #5 without trading down.
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We are missing ONE 2nd round pick which we already used to get Darcy (****ing good business if you ask me). Why are we suddenly doomed to not be able to fill our list? A touch over the top, don't you think?

It takes 3-4 years to rebuild an old list. It doesn't all have to happen this year and frankly it won't. We will keep on several players that most here want cut. There is no need to panic and start trading probably the last or second last top 5 pick we will see for a while because we don't have a second rounder. That makes no sense.
 

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Joao said:
We are missing ONE 2nd round pick which we already used to get Darcy (****ing good business if you ask me). Why are we suddenly doomed to not be able to fill our list? A touch over the top, don't you think?

It takes 3-4 years to rebuild an old list. It doesn't all have to happen this year and frankly it won't. We will keep on several players that most here want cut. There is no need to panic and start trading probably the last or second last top 5 pick we will see for a while because we don't have a second rounder. That makes no sense.
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Actually, it makes perfect sense when you can use your first round pick to trade in a player plus get a 2nd round pick or trade it for 2 or more picks.

Last year Freo had a cleaning out. 10 players left the list. Freo were able to replace those delisted by using their first round pick (#3) to trade, bringing in McCarthy and picks #7, #34 & #72. That together with other trades gave Freo 5 extra picks. In 2017 Freo will likely delist another 8 or more players. I don't think they will be getting many picks in return for those players leaving. Freo will have a far greater need for a quantity of picks rather than high picks.

Time will tell.
 
We might do another 2nd round swap with our second rounder next year to get into the second round this year. Freo like to start development as soon as possible. Depends on what we need for Carter next year and whether there is anything worth getting in the 2nd round this year
 
PurpleEyes said:
Actually, it makes perfect sense when you can use your first round pick to trade in a player plus get a 2nd round pick or trade it for 2 or more picks.

Last year Freo had a cleaning out. 10 players left the list. Freo were able to replace those delisted by using their first round pick (#3) to trade, bringing in McCarthy and picks #7, #34 & #72. That together with other trades gave Freo 5 extra picks. In 2017 Freo will likely delist another 8 or more players. I don't think they will be getting many picks in return for those players leaving. Freo will have a far greater need for a quantity of picks rather than high picks.

Time will tell.
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It only makes sense if you think those two players have more impact than the one top 5 pick. I would much prefer the chance at the better player than settling for two likely lesser players. Do you think Melbourne would swap Salem and Tyson back for Josh Kelly? I suspect they might if given the opportunity.

The hit rates on top 5 picks these days are good and continue to be much better than pick 15-20. We need more elite talent and this may be one of our last couple of chances at it. Absolute no brainer for me.

Last year appears to be good business but the three key differences are:
- We effectively got Cam for free because he sat out a whole year. That is clearly not repeatable. That GWS deal was massively in our favour because they wanted to get to McGrath/Taranto
- We kept another top 10 pick
- If you believe what our recruiters said, they would have taken Logue at 3 anyway.

We would be very lucky to get such good deals this summer. If we can, then I am happy to do something similar. Essential that we keep a pick in the top 8-10 though.
 
I can't totally disregard Sam Hayes and watching Ben Brown dominate up forward today (even though the umps are giving a helping hand) makes me think if Hayes performs well in the combine testing he should be considered.
 
Scham said:
I can't totally disregard Sam Hayes and watching Ben Brown dominate up forward today (even though the umps are giving a helping hand) makes me think if Hayes performs well in the combine testing he should be considered.
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Yeah agree. He is one I think none of us would really rate but obviously the recruiters get a lot more looks at him than us.

Wouldn't be good news for Ape and Nads though...
 
Scham said:
I can't totally disregard Sam Hayes and watching Ben Brown dominate up forward today (even though the umps are giving a helping hand) makes me think if Hayes performs well in the combine testing he should be considered.
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Will be very disappointed if freo get him .
 

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Scham said:
It'd be lovely to have the luxury to be able to give him almost a full season of rehab to try and get him right but we're not in that position unfortunately.
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Lets be honest apeness is nearly done. With Rookie list players able to play anytime next year more team will explore rookie list mature age or body players rather than use it on project player.
 
Need to find more mature aged players, will be several that are in contention after combines. As for mids we have
Blakey, Weller, Walters, Langdon to consider.
Another Luke Ryan would be a better investment than Weller at HB.
Players associated with us, McGovern, Fasolo, Matera, plus Shai Bolton if the home sickness rumour is true, someone
Is on the cards.
Good bet we will turn pick 5 into more, and still get someone who slides.
 
meima said:
Lets be honest apeness is nearly done. With Rookie list players able to play anytime next year more team will explore rookie list mature age or body players rather than use it on project player.
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Yep, I can see him getting delisted either this year or next and then dominate for years at WAFL or VFL level.
 
Cobbler said:
Just a tad favoured in our direction.
Just a tad.
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Clearly its based on both Lever and McGovern wanting out and should that happen then Freo are in complete control. Earlier people said it was to much to offer pick 5 for McGovern and Adelaides first pick and now it's favoured to much in Freos favour, what else can happen, a future first round pick swap and McGovern to Freo?
 
we are going to. We'd to trade out some quality with currency. I reckon lock stock and two smoking barrels....
 
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