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What’s the Buzz: Why has Sydney refused to embrace the GWS Giants

Phil Rothfield, The Sunday Telegraph

August 12, 2017 9:59pm

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IT is the brilliant young sporting outfit that Sydney refuses to embrace.

The GWS Giants may have emerged as genuine AFL premiership contenders after just six years in the competition, but very few fans care.

We’re always bagging league about poor crowds and TV ratings yet the AFL escapes the blowtorch and proper scrutiny in Sydney over their $120 million investment in the Giants.

Their free-to-air television ratings in Sydney are embarrassingly bad.

WHAT’S THE BUZZ I: Cheap tickets and $3 meat pies

WHAT’S THE BUZZ: Saint, Sinner and Shoosh

GWS Giants are struggling for TV ratings.

Kids shows like Peppa Pig, Fireman Sam and Giggle and Hoot have all doubled GWS match ratings in the past fortnight. They’ve also been smashed by old movies The First Wives Club and Back to The Future III.

The GWS v Melbourne game averaged only 16,000 viewers a fortnight ago. Peppa Pig had 53,000. Last week’s Fremantle game drew 25,000.

Their average home crowd this year at Spotless Stadium is just 11,200.

This despite the AFL investing more than $120m in GWS in their six seasons in the comp and even more in grassroots football in Sydney’s west.

GWS Giants Phil Davis and Western Bulldogs Jack Redpath face-off. Pic: Michael Klein

Surely this lack of support will put an end to ludicrous suggestions that ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park should be kept in a circular shape to accommodate the Giants.

Especially when they can’t even half fill Spotless Stadium next door.

A rectangular field will bring rugby league, soccer and rugby union fans much closer to the action when the ground undergoes a $700m renovation in 2019.

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan is quick to defend the franchise.

“The Sydney market is clearly a long term play,” he said.

“They’ve got over 21,000 members.

“Since they’ve been introduced the Swans’ membership has doubled as well because it’s stimulated the market.

“I think Sydney will eventually get behind them. They’ve only been winning a lot of games for the last two years.

“They are growing year on year and we always knew it was a hard market.

“Also, participation in the area has doubled. We’re comfortable with where they are at.”


Love it when League writers make Aussie Rules articles.

Dickhead is up there with Masters. w***er.


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What’s the Buzz: Why has Sydney refused to embrace the GWS Giants

Phil Rothfield, The Sunday Telegraph

August 12, 2017 9:59pm

Subscriber only

IT is the brilliant young sporting outfit that Sydney refuses to embrace.

The GWS Giants may have emerged as genuine AFL premiership contenders after just six years in the competition, but very few fans care.

We’re always bagging league about poor crowds and TV ratings yet the AFL escapes the blowtorch and proper scrutiny in Sydney over their $120 million investment in the Giants.

Their free-to-air television ratings in Sydney are embarrassingly bad.

WHAT’S THE BUZZ I: Cheap tickets and $3 meat pies

WHAT’S THE BUZZ: Saint, Sinner and Shoosh

GWS Giants are struggling for TV ratings.

Kids shows like Peppa Pig, Fireman Sam and Giggle and Hoot have all doubled GWS match ratings in the past fortnight. They’ve also been smashed by old movies The First Wives Club and Back to The Future III.

The GWS v Melbourne game averaged only 16,000 viewers a fortnight ago. Peppa Pig had 53,000. Last week’s Fremantle game drew 25,000.

Their average home crowd this year at Spotless Stadium is just 11,200.

This despite the AFL investing more than $120m in GWS in their six seasons in the comp and even more in grassroots football in Sydney’s west.

GWS Giants Phil Davis and Western Bulldogs Jack Redpath face-off. Pic: Michael Klein

Surely this lack of support will put an end to ludicrous suggestions that ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park should be kept in a circular shape to accommodate the Giants.

Especially when they can’t even half fill Spotless Stadium next door.

A rectangular field will bring rugby league, soccer and rugby union fans much closer to the action when the ground undergoes a $700m renovation in 2019.

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan is quick to defend the franchise.

“The Sydney market is clearly a long term play,” he said.

“They’ve got over 21,000 members.

“Since they’ve been introduced the Swans’ membership has doubled as well because it’s stimulated the market.

“I think Sydney will eventually get behind them. They’ve only been winning a lot of games for the last two years.

“They are growing year on year and we always knew it was a hard market.

“Also, participation in the area has doubled. We’re comfortable with where they are at.”


Love it when League writers make Aussie Rules articles.

Dickhead is up there with Masters. ******.


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lol, NRL meathead of the second highest order, no agenda of course, the whole article is to beat the drum to "fix" ANZ.

We are miles ahead of the curve on a 20 year plan.
 

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What’s the Buzz: Why has Sydney refused to embrace the GWS Giants

Phil Rothfield, The Sunday Telegraph

August 12, 2017 9:59pm

Subscriber only

IT is the brilliant young sporting outfit that Sydney refuses to embrace.

The GWS Giants may have emerged as genuine AFL premiership contenders after just six years in the competition, but very few fans care.

We’re always bagging league about poor crowds and TV ratings yet the AFL escapes the blowtorch and proper scrutiny in Sydney over their $120 million investment in the Giants.

Their free-to-air television ratings in Sydney are embarrassingly bad.

WHAT’S THE BUZZ I: Cheap tickets and $3 meat pies

WHAT’S THE BUZZ: Saint, Sinner and Shoosh

GWS Giants are struggling for TV ratings.

Kids shows like Peppa Pig, Fireman Sam and Giggle and Hoot have all doubled GWS match ratings in the past fortnight. They’ve also been smashed by old movies The First Wives Club and Back to The Future III.

The GWS v Melbourne game averaged only 16,000 viewers a fortnight ago. Peppa Pig had 53,000. Last week’s Fremantle game drew 25,000.

Their average home crowd this year at Spotless Stadium is just 11,200.

This despite the AFL investing more than $120m in GWS in their six seasons in the comp and even more in grassroots football in Sydney’s west.

GWS Giants Phil Davis and Western Bulldogs Jack Redpath face-off. Pic: Michael Klein

Surely this lack of support will put an end to ludicrous suggestions that ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park should be kept in a circular shape to accommodate the Giants.

Especially when they can’t even half fill Spotless Stadium next door.

A rectangular field will bring rugby league, soccer and rugby union fans much closer to the action when the ground undergoes a $700m renovation in 2019.

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan is quick to defend the franchise.

“The Sydney market is clearly a long term play,” he said.

“They’ve got over 21,000 members.

“Since they’ve been introduced the Swans’ membership has doubled as well because it’s stimulated the market.

“I think Sydney will eventually get behind them. They’ve only been winning a lot of games for the last two years.

“They are growing year on year and we always knew it was a hard market.

“Also, participation in the area has doubled. We’re comfortable with where they are at.”


Love it when League writers make Aussie Rules articles.

Dickhead is up there with Masters. ******.


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Not embracing the Giants? Given we're up against so-called "Rugby League Heartland" and some of these teams have been around a hundred years, and all have passed the 50 year mark, I'd say that after 6 years in, we're sitting comfortably in the frame, in both membership and attendances (particularly when you realise that the number of "local derbies" that each league club plays that would increase their average attendances considerably)

Rothschild is a Grade A whinging Pillock!


Souths:
Membership: 30,454
Home Crowd Ave: 11,637

Parramatta:
Membership: 24,462
Home Crowd Ave: 14,517

GWS:
Membership: 20,994
Home Crowd Ave: 12,940
Sydney Home Ave: 13,128

Penrith:
Membership: 19,139
Home Crowd Ave: 12,386

St George:
Membership: 18,732
Home Crowd Ave: 12,946

Canterbury:
Membership: 18,416
Home Crowd Ave: 14,505

Wests Tigers:
Membership: 17,686
Home Crowd Ave: 14,537

Roosters:
Membership: 15,686
Home Crowd Ave: 16,384

Cronulla:
Membership: 15,556
Home Crowd Ave: 12,560

Manly:
Membership: 12,779
Home Crowd Ave: 13,408


2017 YTD figures
 

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What’s the Buzz: Why has Sydney refused to embrace the GWS Giants

Phil Rothfield, The Sunday Telegraph

August 12, 2017 9:59pm

Subscriber only

IT is the brilliant young sporting outfit that Sydney refuses to embrace.

The GWS Giants may have emerged as genuine AFL premiership contenders after just six years in the competition, but very few fans care.

We’re always bagging league about poor crowds and TV ratings yet the AFL escapes the blowtorch and proper scrutiny in Sydney over their $120 million investment in the Giants.

Their free-to-air television ratings in Sydney are embarrassingly bad.

WHAT’S THE BUZZ I: Cheap tickets and $3 meat pies

WHAT’S THE BUZZ: Saint, Sinner and Shoosh

GWS Giants are struggling for TV ratings.

Kids shows like Peppa Pig, Fireman Sam and Giggle and Hoot have all doubled GWS match ratings in the past fortnight. They’ve also been smashed by old movies The First Wives Club and Back to The Future III.

The GWS v Melbourne game averaged only 16,000 viewers a fortnight ago. Peppa Pig had 53,000. Last week’s Fremantle game drew 25,000.

Their average home crowd this year at Spotless Stadium is just 11,200.

This despite the AFL investing more than $120m in GWS in their six seasons in the comp and even more in grassroots football in Sydney’s west.

GWS Giants Phil Davis and Western Bulldogs Jack Redpath face-off. Pic: Michael Klein

Surely this lack of support will put an end to ludicrous suggestions that ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park should be kept in a circular shape to accommodate the Giants.

Especially when they can’t even half fill Spotless Stadium next door.

A rectangular field will bring rugby league, soccer and rugby union fans much closer to the action when the ground undergoes a $700m renovation in 2019.

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan is quick to defend the franchise.

“The Sydney market is clearly a long term play,” he said.

“They’ve got over 21,000 members.

“Since they’ve been introduced the Swans’ membership has doubled as well because it’s stimulated the market.

“I think Sydney will eventually get behind them. They’ve only been winning a lot of games for the last two years.

“They are growing year on year and we always knew it was a hard market.

“Also, participation in the area has doubled. We’re comfortable with where they are at.”


Love it when League writers make Aussie Rules articles.

Dickhead is up there with Masters. ******.


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Rothfield stated the AFL has invested more than $120 million "in grassroots football in Sydney's west" the last 6 years! This is absurdly inflated, how can he make such a preposterous claim, and not be challenged? Would it be $5,000,000+ on GR?

The ANZ final in 2016 between GWS v. Syd. had a crowd c.62,000. The ANZ should retain the ability to have big AF (or cricket) matches in the west -with retractable seating. RL & RU crowds are retreating, ANZ needs as many potential big games as possible -otherwise the NSW taxpayer is being shortchanged.
 
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Bit of Tom Scully love ... and it's great!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/e2a9d567662cba3888d244aef42a9dbb

Tom Scully in running for All-Australian honours after career year with GWS Giants
Neil Cordy, The Daily Telegraph

AFL fans know GWS star Tom Scully has a big motor but the Giants’ well-travelled head of athletic performance David Joyce says he’s the best runner he’s seen in any footballing code. Joyce has worked in the English Premier League for Blackburn, for Turkish giants Galatasaray, for the Western Force in Super Rugby and for the British and Chinese Olympic teams. Scully’s GPS data is off the charts. His 18km-plus per game towers over English Premier League midfielders, who average around 12km.

After three years of watching Scully drive the Giants’ crop of talented young midfielders, Joyce believes the winger could become an Olympian at the 2020 Tokyo Games if he decided to shed 15kg and train specifically for middle-distance running. “Tom is the best runner I’ve seen in any team sport anywhere in the world,” Joyce said. “If he trained specifically for it he would be at Olympic standard, no question. He runs around at 80kg and trains as a footballer.
Middle-distance runners train at about 65kg and train as middle-distance runners. The thing with him is he trains for footy.”

After being slammed in his early years at GWS for being overpaid and underachieving, the 26-year-old is having the last word on his career.
89efe76f4c20e2083a55795d727d352a
After being nominated for All-Australian honours last year, Scully should go one better at the end of the season. He has been as dynamic as he’s been durable, adding a strong inside game while racking up an average of 9.3 contested possessions per game and missing just one match to injury in his past two seasons.
“What gets lost in his ability to run well is just how hard he’s trained,” Joyce said. “He’s our hardest trainer. He gets where he is because of his hard work, not because of talent. He’s a leader by example. When young players come to the club, I say ‘look at Tom’. His tackling and kicking are things he’s worked incredibly hard on as well. He stays on the ground longer than anybody at our club. We might take him off for a breather but it would only be once or twice a match. His running doesn’t drop off either. He had 18 sprints to quarter-time against the Bulldogs. I’ve never seen anything like that before.”
 

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Bit of Tom Scully love ... and it's great!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/e2a9d567662cba3888d244aef42a9dbb

Tom Scully in running for All-Australian honours after career year with GWS Giants
Neil Cordy, The Daily Telegraph

AFL fans know GWS star Tom Scully has a big motor but the Giants’ well-travelled head of athletic performance David Joyce says he’s the best runner he’s seen in any footballing code. Joyce has worked in the English Premier League for Blackburn, for Turkish giants Galatasaray, for the Western Force in Super Rugby and for the British and Chinese Olympic teams. Scully’s GPS data is off the charts. His 18km-plus per game towers over English Premier League midfielders, who average around 12km.

After three years of watching Scully drive the Giants’ crop of talented young midfielders, Joyce believes the winger could become an Olympian at the 2020 Tokyo Games if he decided to shed 15kg and train specifically for middle-distance running. “Tom is the best runner I’ve seen in any team sport anywhere in the world,” Joyce said. “If he trained specifically for it he would be at Olympic standard, no question. He runs around at 80kg and trains as a footballer.
Middle-distance runners train at about 65kg and train as middle-distance runners. The thing with him is he trains for footy.”

After being slammed in his early years at GWS for being overpaid and underachieving, the 26-year-old is having the last word on his career.
89efe76f4c20e2083a55795d727d352a
After being nominated for All-Australian honours last year, Scully should go one better at the end of the season. He has been as dynamic as he’s been durable, adding a strong inside game while racking up an average of 9.3 contested possessions per game and missing just one match to injury in his past two seasons.
“What gets lost in his ability to run well is just how hard he’s trained,” Joyce said. “He’s our hardest trainer. He gets where he is because of his hard work, not because of talent. He’s a leader by example. When young players come to the club, I say ‘look at Tom’. His tackling and kicking are things he’s worked incredibly hard on as well. He stays on the ground longer than anybody at our club. We might take him off for a breather but it would only be once or twice a match. His running doesn’t drop off either. He had 18 sprints to quarter-time against the Bulldogs. I’ve never seen anything like that before.”

Love Sculls be he won't make AA (doubt he'll even make the 40)
 
Bit of Tom Scully love ... and it's great!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/e2a9d567662cba3888d244aef42a9dbb

Tom Scully in running for All-Australian honours after career year with GWS Giants
Neil Cordy, The Daily Telegraph

AFL fans know GWS star Tom Scully has a big motor but the Giants’ well-travelled head of athletic performance David Joyce says he’s the best runner he’s seen in any footballing code. Joyce has worked in the English Premier League for Blackburn, for Turkish giants Galatasaray, for the Western Force in Super Rugby and for the British and Chinese Olympic teams. Scully’s GPS data is off the charts. His 18km-plus per game towers over English Premier League midfielders, who average around 12km.

After three years of watching Scully drive the Giants’ crop of talented young midfielders, Joyce believes the winger could become an Olympian at the 2020 Tokyo Games if he decided to shed 15kg and train specifically for middle-distance running. “Tom is the best runner I’ve seen in any team sport anywhere in the world,” Joyce said. “If he trained specifically for it he would be at Olympic standard, no question. He runs around at 80kg and trains as a footballer.
Middle-distance runners train at about 65kg and train as middle-distance runners. The thing with him is he trains for footy.”

After being slammed in his early years at GWS for being overpaid and underachieving, the 26-year-old is having the last word on his career. After being nominated for All-Australian honours last year, Scully should go one better at the end of the season. He has been as dynamic as he’s been durable, adding a strong inside game while racking up an average of 9.3 contested possessions per game and missing just one match to injury in his past two seasons.
“What gets lost in his ability to run well is just how hard he’s trained,” Joyce said. “He’s our hardest trainer. He gets where he is because of his hard work, not because of talent. He’s a leader by example. When young players come to the club, I say ‘look at Tom’. His tackling and kicking are things he’s worked incredibly hard on as well. He stays on the ground longer than anybody at our club. We might take him off for a breather but it would only be once or twice a match. His running doesn’t drop off either. He had 18 sprints to quarter-time against the Bulldogs. I’ve never seen anything like that before.”
Easily the hardest working player EVERY game day, and by far the most under-rated player externally that we have.
 

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Easily the hardest working player EVERY game day, and by far the most under-rated player externally that we have.
I get he may well not make AA. If you were picking a team to actually win a game though I think he's more likely. As well as his many admirable qualities and skill, his ability to run out a game is rare, and provides cover for in game injuries. I dont think they rate things like that though.
 
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We can't whinge if it's our home final but I would whinge if we had to play Richmond there.

ETA we could whinge but since Sydney played their home final there last year we don't have any credibility if we don't.
If we played Richmond in a QF at ANZ it could be awkward. They have a big dedicated fanbase who would be desperate to see them play I think.
AFL has said it wont happen though.
Interestingly the dimensions of ANZ are very similar to Symonds Stadium which is another possibility.
 

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We can't whinge if it's our home final but I would whinge if we had to play Richmond there.

ETA we could whinge but since Sydney played their home final there last year we don't have any credibility if we don't.

I think the issues are different.

They were fulfilling a contract to play at ANZ whereas for us it's a case of a home venue.

I actually wouldn't mind if it's ANZ but it would truly be a disgrace if we played a final as the higher qualified team at their home ground. I would sooner fly down to Melbourne and play them at the MCG then at the SCG.

For them to even suggest it given our positions on the ladder is mischievous.
 

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What’s the Buzz: Why has Sydney refused to embrace the GWS Giants

Phil Rothfield, The Sunday Telegraph

August 12, 2017 9:59pm

Subscriber only

IT is the brilliant young sporting outfit that Sydney refuses to embrace.

The GWS Giants may have emerged as genuine AFL premiership contenders after just six years in the competition, but very few fans care.

We’re always bagging league about poor crowds and TV ratings yet the AFL escapes the blowtorch and proper scrutiny in Sydney over their $120 million investment in the Giants.

Their free-to-air television ratings in Sydney are embarrassingly bad.

WHAT’S THE BUZZ I: Cheap tickets and $3 meat pies

WHAT’S THE BUZZ: Saint, Sinner and Shoosh

GWS Giants are struggling for TV ratings.

Kids shows like Peppa Pig, Fireman Sam and Giggle and Hoot have all doubled GWS match ratings in the past fortnight. They’ve also been smashed by old movies The First Wives Club and Back to The Future III.

The GWS v Melbourne game averaged only 16,000 viewers a fortnight ago. Peppa Pig had 53,000. Last week’s Fremantle game drew 25,000.

Their average home crowd this year at Spotless Stadium is just 11,200.

This despite the AFL investing more than $120m in GWS in their six seasons in the comp and even more in grassroots football in Sydney’s west.

GWS Giants Phil Davis and Western Bulldogs Jack Redpath face-off. Pic: Michael Klein

Surely this lack of support will put an end to ludicrous suggestions that ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park should be kept in a circular shape to accommodate the Giants.

Especially when they can’t even half fill Spotless Stadium next door.

A rectangular field will bring rugby league, soccer and rugby union fans much closer to the action when the ground undergoes a $700m renovation in 2019.

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan is quick to defend the franchise.

“The Sydney market is clearly a long term play,” he said.

“They’ve got over 21,000 members.

“Since they’ve been introduced the Swans’ membership has doubled as well because it’s stimulated the market.

“I think Sydney will eventually get behind them. They’ve only been winning a lot of games for the last two years.

“They are growing year on year and we always knew it was a hard market.

“Also, participation in the area has doubled. We’re comfortable with where they are at.”


Love it when League writers make Aussie Rules articles.

Dickhead is up there with Masters. ******.


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Nice little article here to contrast with Phil's above :)

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/18f9d70f115189bd525e86a9659d590e

GWS experience Giant growth in attendance, membership and TV audience

Neil Cordy, The Daily Telegraph
August 24, 2017 10:11pm
Greater Western Sydney may finally be making the sort of impression off the field that they have on it.

The Giants are flying high in second place heading into the final round of the regular season and last Saturday’s clash against West Coast drew 15,751 fans, the largest crowd at Spotless Stadium outside of a Sydney derby.

“To beat the record for non-derby attendance twice this season was amazing,” Giants chief operating officer James Avery said.

“We did that with a team which hasn’t traditionally drawn big numbers in Sydney underlines the growth.”

The Giants’ crowd compared favourably with last weekend’s three NRL matches at nearby ANZ Stadium where neither the Eels v Titans (6286), Rabbitohs v Warriors (6213) or the Bulldogs v Sea Eagles (8912) made it into five figures.

GWS’s membership of 20,944 also stacks up well, leading seven of Sydney’s NRL clubs, trailing only Souths and Parramatta.

On-field success has obviously helped draw crowds but Avery also believes the triple attraction of the AFL, AFLW and netball is giving them a point of difference.

“People as seeing us as something more than a traditional football club,” Avery told the Daily Telegraph.

“We offer more than what traditional footy clubs do. Having three teams in different competitions will naturally attract different supporters. We are talking to the AFL about how we can align the fixtures across Netball and footy and men’s footy and women’s footy.”

The Giants have made two changes for tomorrow’s vital last-round clash away at Geelong with former Cat Steve Johnson set to go up against his old club. He comes into the team along with big man Rory Lobb who has recovered from groin injury. Matt deBoer and Harry Himmelberg have both been dropped.
 

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