Again, I'm more concerned about the NOW than what MIGHT happen in the FUTURE. As someone pointed out, an asteroid might hit the earth too. How do Sydney fit both Buddy AND Tippett in their cap without COLA?
Autopsy Richmond salary cap disaster: 2018-2024
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Dusty is older and (way) more established than Jaegar and Tom. Ask this question in four years or so
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but there is two of them and the hawks seem be functioning ok cap wise (?)
also i thought the doggies were very brave and it was a wise move to give boyd a million a year and they also seem in a reasonable ok position in regards to the money aspects. young gun key forward dont grow on trees and he delivered when it counted (??)
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Yeh massive utensil up......resigned the absolute best player in the comp for a fair bit less than what another team offered........come on, I like giving Richmond s**t as much as the next bloke but this a major coup for them. I reckon they have turned the corner
Totally disagree. It was completely worth it for them to pay 1.1 or 1.2m a year (whatever it is) for Dusty. He is legitimately one of the best 2 players in the game. Even if they lose a decent younger talent and get a draft pick back - its still TOTALLY worth it.
Plus once players start to perceive Richmond as a genuine contender - they made be able to get free agents for cheaper.
Without Martin - its hard to see that they would be anywhere close to being a contender. I mean maybe its Dangerfield at Adelaide situation but I doubt it and I don't think many Tiger fans think that either.
A salary cap disaster is paying 1m a year for Boyd to play in the VFL. Martin is practically free money compared to that.
Plus once players start to perceive Richmond as a genuine contender - they made be able to get free agents for cheaper.
Without Martin - its hard to see that they would be anywhere close to being a contender. I mean maybe its Dangerfield at Adelaide situation but I doubt it and I don't think many Tiger fans think that either.
A salary cap disaster is paying 1m a year for Boyd to play in the VFL. Martin is practically free money compared to that.
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Not surprising that Levi Casboult signs contract not long after Dusty deal was done given there was a lot of talk about Casboult coming to Richmond, wouldn't be much cap room there left this year to bring in other talent from clubs but we'll have enough to retain all of our current crop and bring in new draftees, and maybe bring in other lesser lights if available on the cheap.
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I'd be more concerned if the salary cap hadn't just gone up $2m.
Obviously as that normalises all salaries will go up on average, but looking at it simplistically Richmond are exactly where they were this year with Martin getting an extra ~$500k with another $1.5m to distribute.
But yeah I hope they've ****ed up and come ninth.
Obviously as that normalises all salaries will go up on average, but looking at it simplistically Richmond are exactly where they were this year with Martin getting an extra ~$500k with another $1.5m to distribute.
But yeah I hope they've ****ed up and come ninth.
How many clubs near the top can afford to go out and get Rockcliff AND a good ruckman AND a good key forward? Very very few I would say.
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We're all just guessing here, so no we don't know for sure, but Casboult was rumoured to have been offered $500k 3 year contract by us and then he signs a 2 year contract at the blues after the Martin stuff had been finalized, we have cap space, how much, no one really knows but we'll see what happends over trade week and how active we are.
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Hawks are needing to offer bigger amounts than they normally would to lure restricted agents unfortunately.
As a rule they underpay compared to most clubs. Hodge, Mitch, Gibson, Lake and such were on peanuts compared to what they could have sought from rival clubs.
Yarran and Maric payroll to come off the books for 2018.
And aren't we paying part of Lids' contract? Is this only for 2017 or is it 2018 /2019 as well?
And aren't we paying part of Lids' contract? Is this only for 2017 or is it 2018 /2019 as well?
To win a premiership you have to make sacrifices. If we win one in the next few years and then can't keep up to the pace for a few years afterwards it's worth it. The system's built around 'equalisation'. Also we're, right at this moment, a contender, which brings with it the $$$ and credibility - when's the last time that happened? It also makes us a destination club.
If it leads to a premiership we'll be the biggest sporting club in the country. What price do you put on that?
If it leads to a premiership we'll be the biggest sporting club in the country. What price do you put on that?
It's approx $1.1M/year. Apparently there was also a sweetener which included a "top-up" from what was left un-used from the 2017 salary cap. This latter amount has not been quantified.
And I reckon you guys might a future mega-contract player currently on your list. If and when Charlie Curnow comes out of contract, I believe he'll be in the same ballpark, relative to the TPP of the time.
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Take that as it comes. As exciting as he is he has a long road to travel to be spoken about with dusty
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He's a B-grader who had one good season at Port (was mediocre for years at Richmond), and spends half the year injured. I doubt the Tigers are smarting over his departure.
On the topic, if they get a flag out of all this (or even consecutive top 4 finishes, which they haven't had for nearly four decades) wouldn't any future "squeeze" be worth it? You play to win the game, after all. Sometimes it takes calculated risks.
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Spot on with all that Damon. On Matthew White, despite the fact that he was a required player who we really didn't want to lose, there was no compensation whatsoever offered on his free agency. Not even a 4th round pick. It's a woeful system.
Only 2 years the difference between Tom and Dusty......
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I double all things instinctively. They're really bad conditions to have
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It might become a problem in 3-5 years if the current list doesn't prove to be good enough, or if it's not quite good enough and needs topping up.
But if they think they're in their window now - which this season suggests they are - it would've been a much, much bigger disaster for Richmond if they had lost him.
He's either the best, or the 2nd best player in the game at the moment (depending on who you talk to), and as we know the salary cap is going up by plenty from next year. This is absolutely affordable and, in the context of what other players have received in the last few years, it's absolutely affordable. In fact it was necessary - losing Martin, but having an extra $1.1m in your cap doesn't take Richmond closer to a premiership.
If Richmond can't turn this squad into a flag, it won't be because of the Martin contract - it will have been due to other coaching and/or list management failures.
But if they think they're in their window now - which this season suggests they are - it would've been a much, much bigger disaster for Richmond if they had lost him.
He's either the best, or the 2nd best player in the game at the moment (depending on who you talk to), and as we know the salary cap is going up by plenty from next year. This is absolutely affordable and, in the context of what other players have received in the last few years, it's absolutely affordable. In fact it was necessary - losing Martin, but having an extra $1.1m in your cap doesn't take Richmond closer to a premiership.
If Richmond can't turn this squad into a flag, it won't be because of the Martin contract - it will have been due to other coaching and/or list management failures.
