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Bluemour Discussion Thread VI (cont. in Part VII)
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Just another one on MS3 has said many times that Gibbs would not be leaving and loves the club, yet here we are again.
Vafa said we can "lock it in" that Tomlinson will be at Carlton in 2017. Also said Kelly to Carlton and Hopper to be joining him.
Not saying they haven't done an excellent service to give us some inside info, just saying to take everything you hear with a grain of salt because things can change very quickly.
Gibbs gave no indication of intentions to leave last year then Adelaide reveal it day one of trade period.
I'm going off what I saw from him in his 10 second 'Channel 9 EXCLUSIVE" and to me, when a player only brings up their contract status (that we all already know anyway) rather than back his club then chances are he's going to be testing the waters again.
Tbh, I hope he goes and we get pick #9 out of it.
Would be nice to see him play out his career with us and for him to show the message to our younger kids that our club is on the right track.
I'm not even bothering with that equation. It's irrelevant in the end.
We now are in a position where we have young developing players who could do with extended time in the midfield and we need keep bringing in young talent to build that core around players of a certain age bracket.
Going into the draft with two top 20 picks would be a good start towards that.
If we're worried about losing an experienced onballer take a salary dump and perhaps get an extra third rounder back in the deal to make it worth our while.
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Nothing against MS3, b70 or vafa but maybe they are just saying that he's staying because no one told them otherwise after his end of season interview. SOS and co are probably keeping their cards close to their chest.
Imo he just told the world that he wants out, otherwise he would've categorically stated he was staying.
Imo he just told the world that he wants out, otherwise he would've categorically stated he was staying.
I think that message is already being put out there by the likes of Docherty, Plowman and Marchbank picking us as the cub they wanted to play at.
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That's because we're in a rebuild phase. Adelaide otoh, are close to a premiership and they are clearly lacking in the midfield compared to other areas. Gibbs should be seen as the final piece to the puzzle especially if they fall short this year.
So, if we had a shot at a flag and this 29 year old (who MANY on here ridiculously insist he has "at least" 5 years left in him) was seen as the final piece to the puzzle then we would definitely spend a top 10 pick on him. Hell, we spent pick #11 on Brock McLean FFS!
By the time that top 10 pick becomes a player for Adelaide their window will be slammed shut anyway. That's why they were stupid not to give us what we asked for last year. Imagine if they had Gibbs this year...
I'd be happy with pick 18 at this stage. Each year he stays his value goes down. This is the last year we'll be able to ask a first rounder for him.
If they get a pick for Lever we can ask for it. Would probably help in negotiations to get something extra tacked onto the pick 18 if that's their offer and they want to keep 10.
Interesting...thought Boekhurst might have shown just enough in those last few games to warrant an extension. Maybe we think he's had more than enough time to develop and not shown enough of it.
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geez, lot of grunt gone right there........
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If Gibbs goes, get Kennedy and take the Griffen salary dump. If he stays on the park his experience will help greatly. Failing that we should maybe have a shot at Rockliffe now that he has pulled his head in. Let Doc be his captain.
No bollocks. Reality of the situation we're in.
We're rebuilding. He's an asset we can still get something for.
This has been our issue in the past, holding onto aging assets too long until the point they have lost all their value and nobody wants them.
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What do we trade in order to get Kennedy?
If we take Griffen as a salary dump would pick #36 get it done?
No.
What is it with this Griffen Salary dump stuff??
I'd be looking further north, and not at Rockliff.
This would be ideal. If we could get the Crows second rounder for our third as part of a deal taking Griffen's salary might get us Kennedy for that second rounder.
Kennedy and two first round picks wouldn't be a bad haul.
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I posted earlier today in the list management thread something similar.
Gibbs for #17 and Gallucci..?
Because taking a salary dump gets you a discount for the actual player you want. i.e Kennedy
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Not really. We offloaded Yarran, Henderson, Tuohy and Menzel in recent times and our list is a lot better for it.
SOS will not let Gibbs go for pick #15-18 because what that means is, we essentially get nothing for losing him. Pick #15+ this year will be very speculative. Pick #9 otoh could get us D.Fogarty, Stephenson, Constable so there is worth to that pick.
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Stuff taking salary dumps if it's not for Kelly. We're making it so they can afford to keep the players that we want.
I think i'd rather a second round pick or at least an upgrade into the second round for one of our later picks.
Then we can use that second rounder in a deal for another player we might be targeting.
Is the whole salary dump, etc based on Palmer being gone or retained? Or won't effect it either way?
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