Opinion 2017 Draft Discussion - Pick 3 - Poll added

[G-TRAIN07]

Could darcy fogarty be a smokey at our pick 3 and help crippa inside the contest

 

[BlueTongue]

Whoever it is at pick 3, instructions from Bolts is that they must have above average to elite foot skills. A "non negotiable" in his words.

OMFG this is music to my ears! Why has it taken the club until Bolts to realize this?

We have been a Basket case in terms of disposal for sooo many years, and yet Malthouse wanted to cutesy about with short passes in the backline by players with no footskills!!

Bolts needs a raise just for this!!!

 

[No1Suspect]

Coffield? Still seems like someone who will pick up his rating, to me.

Very little evidence to feel this way........I just do.

Geez if we got rayner and coffield id be beyond happy. Coffields a beautiful kick.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Coffield? Still seems like someone who will pick up his rating, to me.

Very little evidence to feel this way........I just do.

Not with #3.

I still reckon if Rayner is there at #3, then it's him we take. If not, it'll be one of Cerra, LDU or Dow (depending on who's left after Bris and GC picks obviously).

Best user by foot of the 3? I'd say Cerra. Can hit target with his left but his preferred is right. Rarely misses targets especially when he has time. Who's the most impressive? Hard to say, I'd take Dow I like his acceleration and he is quite reliable by foot as well. LDU I feel like he uses his size to get the advantage over his fellow draftees but when he steps into AFL, that size advantage will be negated a bit. I can only go off what I've seen at the U18 championships and from that he didn't seem to hit too many targets by foot, tends to over shoot them.

I reckon it'll go

Bris: Dow
GC: Rayner
Carl: Cerra

 

[HARKER]

Not with #3.

I still reckon if Rayner is there at #3, then it's him we take. If not, it'll be one of Cerra, LDU or Dow (depending on who's left after Bris and GC picks obviously).

Best user by foot of the 3? I'd say Cerra. Can hit target with his left but his preferred is right. Rarely misses targets especially when he has time. Who's the most impressive? Hard to say, I'd take Dow I like his acceleration and he is quite reliable by foot as well. LDU I feel like he uses his size to get the advantage over his fellow draftees but when he steps into AFL, that size advantage will be negated a bit. I can only go off what I've seen at the U18 championships and from that he didn't seem to hit too many targets by foot, tends to over shoot them.

I reckon it'll go

Bris: Dow
GC: Rayner
Carl: Cerra

Why not? Who had Taranto @ #2 this time last year?

If he has the right character and we trust him to work into a permanent midfield role, Coffield seems to have several traits we'd love.

I don't know his story, but I do like the way he understands his surrounds. We'll see.

 

[HARKER]

OMFG this is music to my ears! Why has it taken the club until Bolts to realize this?

We have been a Basket case in terms of disposal for sooo many years, and yet Malthouse wanted to cutesy about with short passes in the backline by players with no footskills!!

Bolts needs a raise just for this!!!

We did take Watson & DVR and then Fields as a rookie. Need more than foot skills unfortunately.

 

[BlueTongue]

We did take Watson & DVR and then Fields as a rookie. Need more than foot skills unfortunately.

True, but considering this is the basis for the game, it would have been nice to have more than a small few that could kick it.

 

[HARKER]

True, but considering this is the basis for the game, it would have been nice to have more than a small few that could kick it.

Dangerfield isn't considered a great kick and he goes O.K.

Kicking is just one trick. A good one to have, but nevertheless just one trick and I wouldn't want Bolton to pull rank in a Malthouse manner.
SOS is going O.K. and the baker should keep...........you know the rest.

 

[Arr0w]

Stephenson has really started motoring since being in the guts... Would you think his stocks are rising because of it Arr0w

Also, I read a lot of Dangerfield comparisons for Dow, I see a little more Dayne Zorko - what are your thoughts?

I still can't see past Rayner, I see a little weakness below his knees with ground balls, but I think he could play a key role up forward for us (thinking 20-25 goal a year forward in his first year) as he develops his tank.

I know a couple of here don't like LDU at our pick, but I really like the cut of his jib, and think he and Cripps in the middle for the next decade is really promising prospect.

End of the day, I think we can get a 200 gamer at pick 3 regardless, which is a great result for the footy club.

I am not a huge fan of Stephenson, who is spending more time in the midfield, but does rely on others winning the ball for him. Running into to goal, or kicking long, he is a beautiful kick, but I find that he struggles with link/hit up short passes. Also if the game is a high contested affair, he struggles to find a lot of the ball

Dow is a gun, has all the attributes of being a dangerous clearance player and can rest forward, hitting the scoreboard. More of a natural midfielder than Zorko, but I understand the comparison.

Rayner is the most dangerous of the 4, when in his area, hunts the ball with aggression and generally is involved. Centre clearance work is beautiful to watch, reads the tap exceptionally well and hits it at speed, disposing of the ball with long, direct, quick passes. Unfortunately his endurance is no where close to AFL standard.

Also not a fan of LDU, IMO, is another that has suspect disposal by foot. Not sure if he is conditional player, but once he has a disposal, he really doesn't hunt the ball or get involved in multiple link play. Might just be his laid back persona, but he should be getting more of the ball for the type of player he is.

 

[Gingerbread man]

Geez if we got rayner and coffield id be beyond happy. Coffields a beautiful kick.

If we get pick 10 and keep 3 I'm hoping for Rayner/Dow at 3, Coffield at 10, bonar at 38, Hugh dixon at 56, Penrith at 75, draft done and running like a bandit

 

[thylacine60]

OMFG this is music to my ears! Why has it taken the club until Bolts to realize this?

We have been a Basket case in terms of disposal for sooo many years, and yet Malthouse wanted to cutesy about with short passes in the backline by players with no footskills!!

Bolts needs a raise just for this!!!

I just got one...

 

[HARKER]

This was our Phantom draft in late September last year.
Not saying that we're any experts, but it's more likely that no one really is.
Lots to play out just yet, and whatever top 4 we may think we'll see...................we won't.

ROUND 1
1. Will Brodie... ESS
2. Ben Ainsworth... BRIS
3. Hugh McLuggage... FREM
4. Sam Petrevski-Seton... GCS
5. ACADEMY BID CARLTON - (Matched) Jack Bowes... GCS
6. Andrew McGrath... CARL
7. Todd Marshall... RICH
8. Tim English... GWS
9. ACADEMY BID PORT - (Matched) Will Setterfield... GWS
10 Daniel Venables... PORT
11. Jack Scrimshaw... STK
12. Tim Taranto... NTHM
13. ACADEMY BID WCE - (Matched) Harry Perryman... GWS
14. ACADEMY BID WCE - (Unmatched) Kobe Mutch... WCE
15. Joshua Battle... WBD
16. Jarrod Berry... ADE
17. Alex Witherden... HAW
18. Dylan Clarke... SYD

 

[Arr0w]

I doubt his beep is 11.
11 means he can't finish games even at that level

His beep test was a tad over 11. Really poor

 

[LanceRomance]

Why not? Who had Taranto @ #2 this time last year?

If he has the right character and we trust him to work into a permanent midfield role, Coffield seems to have several traits we'd love.

I don't know his story, but I do like the way he understands his surrounds. We'll see.

Yep... Doesn't take much for a player to bolt up the draft chain.

I think McRae and Ahern were massive bolsters... Where as Laverde went the other way.


Mitch Robinson and recently MacReadie were massive sliders...

 

[LanceRomance]

I doubt his beep is 11.
11 means he can't finish games even at that level

Beep tests aren't all about endurance


But carry on

 

[Soapy V]

Whoever it is at pick 3, instructions from Bolts is that they must have above average to elite foot skills. A "non negotiable" in his words.

Couldn't agree more. Brilliant.

 

[Soapy V]

OMFG this is music to my ears! Why has it taken the club until Bolts to realize this?

We have been a Basket case in terms of disposal for sooo many years, and yet Malthouse wanted to cutesy about with short passes in the backline by players with no footskills!!

Bolts needs a raise just for this!!!

Just read it myself. FINALLY. Yes. Bolts just impresses me more and more. Go Blues

 

[Soapy V]

Dangerfield isn't considered a great kick and he goes O.K.

Kicking is just one trick. A good one to have, but nevertheless just one trick and I wouldn't want Bolton to pull rank in a Malthouse manner.
SOS is going O.K. and the baker should keep...........you know the rest.

It's no trick. It should just be a base line standard.

 

[LanceRomance]

Couldn't agree more. Brilliant.

Yep. We have had so many butchers in the past.

Guys like Bell, Robinson, and Kerridge are all heart but in their time they have cost us games.

Unfortunately, it can go the other way - Jaksch and Bootsma had excellent skills but seemingly other priorities

 

[La Dispute]

Fogarty has a lot going for him. Loves taking the game on, super aggressive, has the ability to shrug off multiple tackles and has a nice long kick.

Wonder if he'll be a bolter? (playing for Bolton)

 

[HARKER]

Yep... Doesn't take much for a player to bolt up the draft chain.
I think McRae and Ahern were massive bolsters... Where as Laverde went the other way.
Mitch Robinson and recently MacReadie were massive sliders...

We never know what may yet come about, but we still have finals, testing, interviews etc to come about and to think we know who will be deemed to be the first picked at this point in time.........we're just kidding oursleves.

Players Coffield, Brander, Stephenson, Higgins and others may yet have claim for spots higher than we're seeing right now. It will change.

 

[HARKER]

It's no trick. It should just be a base line standard.

Everyone with a leg and a ball can kick. Elite kicking though is something else, but then;

So let's just draft another Watson ahead of Luke Parker.
Maybe another DVR ahead of Mitch McGovern.

Like I said; There's more to the game than kicking alone.

 

[LanceRomance]

We never know what may yet come about, but we still have finals, testing, interviews etc to come about and to think we know who will be deemed to be the first picked at this point in time.........we're just kidding oursleves.

Players Coffield, Brander, Stephenson, Higgins and others may yet have claim for spots higher than we're seeing right now. It will change.

Yep. Might even be a drink driver or some other indiscretion may happen

 

[Soapy V]

Everyone with a leg and a ball can kick. Elite kicking though is something else, but then;

So let's just draft another Watson ahead of Luke Parker.
Maybe another DVR ahead of Mitch McGovern.

Like I said; There's more to the game than kicking alone.

I'll just agree with the coach. Go Bolts [emoji106]

 

[HARKER]

I'll just agree with the coach. Go Bolts [emoji106]

What if SOS doesn't agree with the coach? What then?

Bolton doesn't recruit nor list manage, although his input is necessary.
Last time the coach got in the way of the recruiter we got Jaksch and Boekhorst..........we go again?