No point worrying about what other teams are doing.
It would be ridiculous not to get rocky just because Brisbane get a good compo haha
If it frees us up to move Gibbs on and get some good picks the benefits will be huge for us.
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No point worrying about what other teams are doing.
It would be ridiculous not to get rocky just because Brisbane get a good compo haha
If it frees us up to move Gibbs on and get some good picks the benefits will be huge for us.
Has the band on free agency compensation changed with the recent salary cap change? I'd imagine it has, given it was raised what 20%?
So even if we give Rockliff $700k that mightn't trigger band one anymore, would need to be around the 900k mark with the 20% raise.
So even if we give Rockliff $700k that mightn't trigger band one anymore, would need to be around the 900k mark with the 20% raise.
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Adelaide is ok, I just wouldn't live there.
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I don't even bother with TF for this reason. Complete dumb arses.
My understanding is that to trigger Band 1 compo you need to be in the top 5% of the AFL wage scale. In 2015 that would have been $800k per year. In 2018 it will likely be +$850K. There is no way known SOS will bring in Rockcliffe on that kind of money front-ended or not. There are also some unknown factors in the compensation that makes it difficult to manipulate.
I can't see why we would bother even trying manipulate the system with Brisbane to trigger band1 and slip from Pick3 to Pick4. If we try and do a shonky deal we are putting ourselves at risk of draft tampering.
If we get Rocky at a reasonable price we just take Pick3 to the draft as it is. If Gibbs goes we have even more currency for trades/ draft
I can't see why we would bother even trying manipulate the system with Brisbane to trigger band1 and slip from Pick3 to Pick4. If we try and do a shonky deal we are putting ourselves at risk of draft tampering.
If we get Rocky at a reasonable price we just take Pick3 to the draft as it is. If Gibbs goes we have even more currency for trades/ draft
If we trigger band two that would give Brisbane pick 18 ish to give to Adelaide for Cameron which then could be used as part of the Gibbs trade.
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Arguably the biggest flog in the AFL. Adds nothing to the game. All about himself.
I would accept P17 & P27 (Melb) for Gibbs and P38. Bonar at 17 would be an option, we can trade 27, Roughsedge may even be available at 56 as he is an overager.
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I doubt very much we'd shoot ourselves in the foot like that. No way we pay overs for Rocky if it means Brisbane get band 1.
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He is out of contract, but is classified as a restricted free agent, meaning Brisbane have the ability to match any deal and force a trade.
I don't see the AFL ticking off any surreptitious deals, so the way I see it, he either triggers band 1 compensation, or his deal is matched and he stays at Brisbane. I'd be confident in saying we won't be willing to trade for his worth.
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Frawley got around 700K over 4 years which triggered band 1 at the time. The 'it's a sneaky priority pick' myth is for those who have can't understand FA compensation (which isn't actually complicated at all). Dale Thomas triggered band 1 compo with basically the same contract (actually a little less at 675K over 4 years I believe) but none of the silly conspiracy theories.
If that was around about the minimum for band 1 then, with 20% wage growth in the AFL since, it'll take a contract around $800-850K to get band 1 compo now.
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It's top 5% for players over 25, which is apparently slightly lower (think Boyd and a few others). That's a substantially smaller group than the ~ 810 players in the AFL in a given year.
If it were just a straight 5%, it would be the top 40 of the league, which would be about $800k. I think the number may actually be $750k.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n/news-story/fcdb69c6666a5fbb241dac67ab103b13
Was actually only 550k a year for 4 years according to this article.
are you implying FA compensation is fully transparent and no discretion applies? Jarrad Waite says hi.
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The minimum was more like $550k then.
No need to give 38 up unless they want to give us pick 10 instead of 17
17 & 27 is a fair deal for a contracted footballer in the prime of his career
I think Pick 10 must be part of the deal. I'd be disappointed if we only got 17 and change.
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Okay, I'm just going to come out and say this. I don't want Rockliff at any price. I particularly don't want him at a premium price. The risks outweigh the benefits in my option.
I'm pretty sure SOS will shake something better loose for the money. Better to invest in a player or players that will fit right in and contribute for a number of years than to go all in on a potentially disruptive short-term fix.
The fit is just not right and that suggests to me that it's not going to happen. Ask yourselves this question. How often does SOS do the obvious?
I'm pretty sure SOS will shake something better loose for the money. Better to invest in a player or players that will fit right in and contribute for a number of years than to go all in on a potentially disruptive short-term fix.
The fit is just not right and that suggests to me that it's not going to happen. Ask yourselves this question. How often does SOS do the obvious?
Rocky and Smith to the Blues according to Brian Waldrun on SEN.
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