News Update: Charles Cameron traded to Brisbane for Pick 12

[Golumless]

Gotta love this board.

"Francis is s**t, has shown nothing. Do not want."

"Anyway, Doedee can come in and slot into Levers role".

What do Francis and Doedee have in common?

Right now one has done a good apprenticeship in the SANFL, the other has managed to show he's talented but huge question marks on work rate and desire, and no one is having a long term career without them.

I'd much rather Doedee.

 

[jenny61_99]

No it’s effectively Francis and 29 for Charlie and 35

No,we give up 18 for Francis.

 

[Bicks]

I'm not sure they will.

Adrian Dodoro didn't get his reputation for being extremely difficult to deal with by being a nice guy.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...a/news-story/28930384ca97307fbb4f7dd47906c514

“He’s a contracted player for the next two years and we have extremely high regard for him as a player,” Dodoro said last month.

“When we drafted him we knew there’d be some limitations initially because of some injury issues.

“We’ve got him to a point now where his fitness is really good, he runs games out exceptionally well and we’re expecting a really big year from him next year.

“I’m pretty sure it’ll be at the Bombers and our fans should be happy to see him playing some really strong footy next year.”

 

[FR0GGY]

No,we give up 18 for Francis.

Which we get for Charlie

 

[hey shorty]

Adrian Dodoro didn't get his reputation for being extremely difficult to deal with by being a nice guy.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...a/news-story/28930384ca97307fbb4f7dd47906c514

“He’s a contracted player for the next two years and we have extremely high regard for him as a player,” Dodoro said last month.

“When we drafted him we knew there’d be some limitations initially because of some injury issues.

“We’ve got him to a point now where his fitness is really good, he runs games out exceptionally well and we’re expecting a really big year from him next year.

“I’m pretty sure it’ll be at the Bombers and our fans should be happy to see him playing some really strong footy next year.”

Might be a McCarthy type situation

They told him to lift his rate at the end of last year and he failed to do that. When they are chasing 3 good players from other clubs they'll need currency and they won't get that from Port.

 

[Cap]

Adrian Dodoro didn't get his reputation for being extremely difficult to deal with by being a nice guy.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...a/news-story/28930384ca97307fbb4f7dd47906c514

“He’s a contracted player for the next two years and we have extremely high regard for him as a player,” Dodoro said last month.

“When we drafted him we knew there’d be some limitations initially because of some injury issues.

“We’ve got him to a point now where his fitness is really good, he runs games out exceptionally well and we’re expecting a really big year from him next year.

“I’m pretty sure it’ll be at the Bombers and our fans should be happy to see him playing some really strong footy next year.”

So doesn't he just mention family reasons and the media become sympathetic?

Or is that only players going to Victoria.

 

[jenny61_99]

Which we get for Charlie

So... we also throw in a second pick (which they give back to us a tiny bit upgraded). So.... Francis = Charlie. (I'm so confused).

 

[CrowBloke]

Links please because in Ivan's case at least that's poles apart from my recollection of what he said.

Like I said, I could be wrong.
Bicks said: "name one player that's left us that's said the club is a s**t place to be at".
Scott Welsh. <== one player.
No links. I'm pretty sure he bagged Craig/AFC after leaving, and one other who left the same time. I thought it was Maric.

Is that all you got from that post?

 

[CrowBloke]

You're betting on Pyke doing the same M.O. as this year, he's smarter than that, he's seen who fell short on the big day and will fastrack the younger talent now I'm betting/.

I hope you're right.
I'd love to see some good, new, committed young talent in our side.

 

[pjcrows]

Scott Welsh and Ben Hudson bagged the club on departure.

 

[Sanders]

Key words here. 'Compared to what they were asked to do'. He's arguably more of an important cog in our side, but to say he's a better player than Laird is just wrong

Do you know what a straw man is?

It’s where you make up an argument to argue against

Who ever said Cameron was better than Laird?

Other than your straw man I can’t see anyone did

 

[Cap]

Scott Welsh and Ben Hudson bagged the club on departure.

Yep they did.

The club was in a weird place then. Wasn't that the athlete over footy player and everyone needs to be like a tour de france cyclist (sans the drugs i presume) period?

 

[Sanders]

My original comment was that he's not a top 10 quality player in our side. That comment was based off player quality, not importance to the side. That's why I've been arguing against the point.

Well that’s an even more silly position to hold. He has, by measures that matter, been a top 10 player

You should feel bad

 

[pjcrows]

Yep they did.

The club was in a weird place then. Wasn't that the athlete over footy player and everyone needs to be like a tour de france cyclist (sans the drugs i presume).

Yeah 2007-10 era. Players couldn't fart without being hauled in to the coaches' office.

 

[hey shorty]

Scott Welsh and Ben Hudson bagged the club on departure.

They did indeed, Huddo in particular was critical of Craigy

 

[Cap]

Yeah 2007-10 era. Players couldn't fart without being hauled in to the coaches' office.

Bernie got in strife for doing the eagle rock in his boxers.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Do you know what a straw man is?

It’s where you make up an argument to argue against

Who ever said Cameron was better than Laird?

Other than your straw man I can’t see anyone did

Well that’s an even more silly position to hold. He has, by measures that matter, been a top 10 player

You should feel bad

Okay I'm confused. Laird is a better player than Cameron, but he's a top 10 player based off the B&F results (and thus better than Laird)

Either I'm missing something, or you're contradicting yourself big-time mate

 

[Sanders]

This 3 years line is bullshit,
You're betting on Pyke doing the same M.O. as this year, he's smarter than that, he's seen who fell short on the big day and will fastrack the younger talent now I'm betting/.

You’re right, 3 years is bullshit

More like 4-5 years before they really step up

 

[Sanders]

Okay I'm confused. Laird is a better player than Cameron, but he's a top 10 player based off the B&F results (and thus better than Laird)

Either I'm missing something, or you're contradicting yourself big-time mate

This is a joke right

You’ve already been told to do the maths which shows on average votes Laird is a top 10 player and higher than Cameron

FFS

 

[Danger in Texas]

This is a joke right

You’ve already been told to do the maths which shows on average votes Laird is a top 10 player and higher than Cameron

FFS

Wasn't able to find the vote tallies, but he finished 11th, my bad

Explain how Hartigan is better than Laird, then?

 

[deeztreez]

Scott Welsh and Ben Hudson bagged the club on departure.

Yup. Craig gave them a hard time for smoking cigs

 

[hey shorty]

Yup. Craig gave them a hard time for smoking cigs

Huddo liked a drink or 10 too

 

[BRL121]

They did indeed, Huddo in particular was critical of Craigy

But, didn't Huddo leave in a huff because we wouldn't offer him more than a one-year contract? Not really a case of a Vic wanting to leave for more money.

 

[pjcrows]

Yup. Craig gave them a hard time for smoking cigs

It was more the ales, but yeah.

 

[Redleg Crow]

Can anyone name a first round draft pick who didn't work out at the club he was drafted to but did at the one he was then traded to?
[edit] By "didn't work out" I mean looked a bust, not like say Gunston who wanted to go home early or Lynch who just couldn't get into a top side. (although I guess with Lynch there is a case to make)