Yeah, I must admit that I absolutely hated that trade at the time. Menzel is so talented, it just goes to show that if you can't be a hardcore runner you can't really be anything in the AFL these days. I think SOS won't be looking at Rayner (a Cripps type attitude would see him wanting to prove people wrong about his tank but he was happy to sit it out). I actually hope he is taken before our pick so we get the midfielder we want.Troy Menz was no good and sos knew it...no chance he'll be back