Draft Review 2017 - Revisit the 2017 AFL draft

[Draft mad]

Rapt with Billy Hartung!

You won't for long most fraustrating player. Rather Jed Anderson any day

 

[nahnah]

Happy with pick 6, has superstar qualities. Think maybe we should have gone tall at 39 but if Murphy is likened to the Crows Lynch then he is a list need... unsure on Brown.

 

[TheHeatleyStand]

Love the Ckark and Coffield picks they are exactly what we need.

Probably hype one can elevate to midfield

 

[Draft mad]

Winners
Saints - added 3 great young players, Clark and Coffield make there list look much better and add some really class.
Blues - turbo charged our midfield, LOB ball uses is awesome.
Kangas - I know they rated Dow at one, but LDU is just about the best they realistically could of hoped for, pretty good consolation prize.

Losers
Freo - with the picks they had, should have done much better, wouldn't have taken Brayshaw in the top 10
Swans - two pretty big reaches IMO.

You can't say that the blues midfeild is "turbo charged". that's a Bruce mcAvaney comment. Carlton didn't even have a midfielder in the all Australian team. And by saying that Freo are losers and that Bradshaw shouldn't have been in the top 10!! It just shows how dumb you are when it comes to AFL draft prospects. As fair as I'm concerned Freo are the winners and Carlton are the losers.

 

[Pykie]

Having known the Rays boys for a number of years, he is mainly an inside midfielder. Only the past 24 months has he developed an outside (ish) game.

Good effort developing his outside game in 2016 when he missed the entire year.

 

[citizen-erased]

If you have a zerk that needs thatching, he's your man.

we need to not rush this kid and his nickname.
There is plenty of potential with him.

Oh, and in case anyone has missed.
We have added a weird one that BT is gonna love.
Tippa, Raz, Package, Daniher, and now Zert.
Too bad we picked up no Calder Cannons kids.

 

[citizen-erased]

Winners
Saints - added 3 great young players, Clark and Coffield make there list look much better and add some really class.
Blues - turbo charged our midfield, LOB ball uses is awesome.
Kangas - I know they rated Dow at one, but LDU is just about the best they realistically could of hoped for, pretty good consolation prize.

Losers
Freo - with the picks they had, should have done much better, wouldn't have taken Brayshaw in the top 10
Swans - two pretty big reaches IMO.

Cerra and Brayshaw are great pickups.
Cerra is class and Brayshaw may not have any tricks, but he is probably the best all round mid in the draft.
Solid choices here.....assuming they dont leave.
Reckon the Dockers will be sending a fruit basket to WCE for grabbing Hamish and giving Andy someone he knows to help setup.
Wouldn't be surprised to see the family move to WA in the early years too

 

[btdg]

I reckon we need to throw this thread in the deep freeze for two years.

This has to be just about the hardest draft I can remember to evaluate immediately after. It's a weak draft. and while we are all carried away now, any evaluation is pure guesswork, and more so than other years

I think the top 5 will be fine - solid, not necessarily stars, but decent afl standard midfielders (and 1-2 will probably be better, LDU the most likely imo). The next 9-10 will have some picks that look horrible in 5 years time. Any of that group could be out of the league in 3 years and I wouldn't be surprised. In the 15-30 range (and maybe one or two after that) I reckon every player looks like a great role player, if you squint a particular way, and they have some luck and everything pans out right. But I'd almost say MOST of that group will fail.

After 30, it honestly looks a complete crapshoot to me. Teams have swung for the fences with their preferred guys, but this year it just looks like guesswork in that range.

The teams most are saying 'won' the draft had a heap of picks in the 15-30 bracket. Richmond, Geelong, etc. Their guys have some skills that stand out, as well as a heap of flaws. Easy to look at and think 'wow, that's perfect for their team'. And maybe, in top 4 teams, where they can play to their strengths and have Dangerfield/Martin et al cover their weaknesses, that'll work really well. I think that's why Geelong and Richmonds guys look great, while West Coast and GC picks in the same range don't. But there's also a solid chance we look back and think it was insane that Geelong took a mature aged Kelly, and that Constable slid for a reason, Richmond were silly taking 2 bigs in a weak year, etc.

Similarly, Hawthorn seem to have completely foregone doing any prep for the draft at all. Given they had no picks inside the top 40, I reckon they just skimmed bigfooty. "Worpel is available? I've heard of him, let's do it. Moore is rated highly on Bishop's top 50? Take him too. Hey, Knight,are has Jackson Ross at pick 30 - lets snap him up." Actually not a bad strategy - it's not like we expect anything from those picks. Same with Port too - just firing at popular guys who slid.

 

[citizen-erased]

Hard to rate a draft on draft night.

For Melbourne though, it's come off in a very interesting way. Two smaller outside types in Spargo and Baker. Given Baker was rated by many as going to us as 29, to get both him and Spargo is a pretty damn good outcome.
Fritsch is a deadset gun, it's going to be interesting to see if he cracks the 22 immediately more than anything.
And Petty is a prospect fill for KPD, given Garland retired with his knee it's a pretty obvious pickup as a developmental replacement and depth. Wouldn't expect him to play until 2019 at the earliest but more likely 2020.

I still think Fritsch is a gamble. Im always dubious of forwards who dominate the 2's, then come to the AFL.
Looks a good replacement for Watts in the forward line if he does.

Dees did their business with adding Lever and keeping the list together.
Your 22 should be playing finals. Fingers crossed some better luck with injury next year

 

[citizen-erased]

Essendon were apparently quite keen to swoop.

i think we were until Lavender signed.
Our ruck stocks are TBC, Berger, McKernan, Draper and Lavender.
Not sure we needed another one.

 

[carnthedons]

You won't for long most fraustrating player. Rather Jed Anderson any day

Hay, Thompson, Rawlings, Anderson, Hartung when will they learn?

 

[TazHawk15]

Hay, Thompson, Rawlings, Anderson, Hartung when will they learn?

North went for Dusty and Kelly but ended up with Billy.

The kid can run no doubt but it’s usually away from any hint of physical contact.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

You can't say that the blues midfeild is "turbo charged". that's a Bruce mcAvaney comment. Carlton didn't even have a midfielder in the all Australian team. And by saying that Freo are losers and that Bradshaw shouldn't have been in the top 10!! It just shows how dumb you are when it comes to AFL draft prospects. As fair as I'm concerned Freo are the winners and Carlton are the losers.

Well he can say it because it's his opinion, just as you stated yours in response. Time will tell on both of your opinions.

 

[Pykie]

Hay, Thompson, Rawlings, Anderson, Hartung when will they learn?

I’m not sure Thompson belongs in that list, averaged almost 2.5 goals a game for North.

He was probably a better player at North than at Hawthorn.

 

[Mr_Plow]

You can't say that the blues midfeild is "turbo charged". that's a Bruce mcAvaney comment. Carlton didn't even have a midfielder in the all Australian team. And by saying that Freo are losers and that Bradshaw shouldn't have been in the top 10!! It just shows how dumb you are when it comes to AFL draft prospects. As fair as I'm concerned Freo are the winners and Carlton are the losers.

Not sure how Carlton lost when we picked 5 hall of famers.

 

[Big_Luch]

You can't say that the blues midfeild is "turbo charged". that's a Bruce mcAvaney comment. Carlton didn't even have a midfielder in the all Australian team. And by saying that Freo are losers and that Bradshaw shouldn't have been in the top 10!! It just shows how dumb you are when it comes to AFL draft prospects. As fair as I'm concerned Freo are the winners and Carlton are the losers.

What does carlton not having any mids in AA contention have to do with us potentially vastly improving our midfield this draft? How did we lose taking dow who was regarded as a top1 pick by some? What's knocks do you have on Obrien who was rated as the best kick in the draft?

 

[Snake_Baker]

I’m not sure Thompson belongs in that list, averaged almost 2.5 goals a game for North.

He was probably a better player at North than at Hawthorn.

Indeed.

North 60/135
Hawthorn 119/192

 

[TazHawk15]

Indeed.

North 60/135
Hawthorn 119/192

Yep Thommo was a good player for North.

On a side note, aren’t you the guy that told me Kelly and Dusty to North we’re done deals?

So you had Dusty and Kelly but ended up with Billy

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Similarly, Hawthorn seem to have completely foregone doing any prep for the draft at all. Given they had no picks inside the top 40, I reckon they just skimmed bigfooty. "Worpel is available? I've heard of him, let's do it. Moore is rated highly on Bishop's top 50? Take him too. Hey, Knight,are has Jackson Ross at pick 30 - lets snap him up." Actually not a bad strategy - it's not like we expect anything from those picks. Same with Port too - just firing at popular guys who slid.

I’ve seen some silly things posted in my time, but this....

 

[sonnywalters]

Good for the suns to pick up some more under developed skinny outside players.
Just what they need

 

[Pykie]

Yep Thommo was a good player for North.

On a side note, aren’t you the guy that told me Kelly and Dusty to North we’re done deals?

So you had Dusty and Kelly but ended up with Billy

No I think we ended up with LDU + $3,000,000 a year.

 

[Snake_Baker]

On a side note, aren’t you the guy that told me Kelly and Dusty to North we’re done deals?

No. I generally avoid speaking to you.

So you had Dusty and Kelly but ended up with Billy

He finished 4th at Hawthorn for disposals, 2nd for meters gained and averaged more contested possessions and tackles than 4 times premiership player Grant Birchall.

 

[citizen-erased]

Carlton would really want Dow to deliver, otherwise their entire draft haul has massive bust credentials.

Good companion pick to Cripps. I would have gone LDU but Dow is a good pickup.
Top 5 are pretty even this year. I dont think Rayner is the standout, so the Lions had their work to do this year to make the right choice.
Could have gone any of the top 6 @ 1.

Dow and O'Brien add nicely to a blues midfield already boasting Cripps, Kennedy, Murphy, Curnow, Fisher, SPS and likely to see Curnow get in there.
Desperately need a ruck and a forward line. But plenty of drafts for them to focus on that.

 

[theyellowsash]

I agree. I'll be shocked if cerra, dow, spargo, and stephenson don't request trades to North in 2 years.

theyve already agreed to 5 year $6 million deals each, theyre just waiting for the right time to announce it.

 

[TazHawk15]

No. I generally avoid speaking to you.
.

Can you please continue to do that then?

Anyway good ol North wanted Dusty and Kelly but ended up with Billy.