Training 2017/2018 Pre-season Thread

[Elite Crow]

Ah no they didn't

They said Gibson helps cover smith by being able to play wing and allowing others to shuffle back ( no doubt they are thinking Mackay Douglas and Seedsman)

Milera

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Milera

Yep meant him too but just didn't type it !

Hope he's main one

Gibbs is the other one

Wouldn't mind them trialling rotating Gibbs Sloane and B crouch off half back . They would all rack up possessions and it may develop Brads kicking and outside game

And no they mainly play mid but instead of rotating so much bench time

 

[Elite Crow]

Yep meant him too but just didn't type it !

Hope he's main one

Gibbs is the other one

Wouldn't mind them trialling rotating Gibbs Sloane and B crouch off half back . They would all rack up possessions and it may develop Brads kicking and outside game

And no they mainly play mid but instead of rotating so much bench time

Nah, I want our midfield to kill it, with Gibbs in we have 4 A graders if Brad kicks on, that’s right up there with the best in the comp.

Edit just read your last line.

I wonder if Milera is being considered at HB by the club? Someone ring Pykey.

 

[Sanders]

Ah no they didn't

They said Gibson helps cover smith by being able to play wing and allowing others to shuffle back ( no doubt they are thinking Mackay Douglas and Seedsman)

You’re putting extra words in their mouth to suit

Gibson will play in smiths role

 

[Sanders]

Well then I can't say I agree and will be very worried heading into round one if we are going to be playing him back there. He's never played HBF for North, and he has 0 attributes that suggest he should be playing there.

IMO Gibson should really only be depth. Im going to be pretty honest come round 1 if he's in the side while we have talented and exciting youngsters hacking it out in the SANFL.

Gibson is a slow, average player that tries hard and runs lots. We have far more skilled and multi-dimensional players on our list.

You seem to be completely unaware how good a player Gibson has been?????

He was delisted this year, surprisingly, because of age and Norths need to rejuvenate their age profile

Gibson has been one of North’s top top players in recent years, including 2017.

I also note Gibson was so slow, Sloane couldn’t run away from him

 

[Sanders]

What the Colonel is saying is just what AFC said he was being recruited for at draft time.

This is correct.

although I called it before the club statement

 

[Jeffcrowe]

You’re putting extra words in their mouth to suit

Gibson will play in smiths role

Nope . Heard Don talk about it and he said Gibson with his wing and mid ability frees up others . Remember it clear as day

Have also heard second hand that he was enticing due to his ability to tag

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Nah, I want our midfield to kill it, with Gibbs in we have 4 A graders if Brad kicks on, that’s right up there with the best in the comp.

Edit just read your last line.

I wonder if Milera is being considered at HB by the club? Someone ring Pykey.

I'm not convinced he is but I'm hoping and Don isn't silly

 

[Sanders]

Nope . Heard Don talk about it and he said Gibson with his wing and mid ability frees up others . Remember it clear as day

Have also heard second hand that he was enticing due to his ability to tag

We can all remember what we want to hear after the event, particularly if our argument requires additional invention to support it

The club did not say all those things at all. It was commented on at the the time, and the contemporaneous accounts (which I recall well) did not include the extra mayo

Nor did the actual comments from Ben Hart

 

[azza77]

You seem to be completely unaware how good a player Gibson has been?????

He was delisted this year, surprisingly, because of age and Norths need to rejuvenate their age profile

Gibson has been one of North’s top top players in recent years, including 2017.

I also note Gibson was so slow, Sloane couldn’t run away from him

How good of a player Gibson is? Right.....

Since when did Gibson become such a superstar? One of North's top players? Have you seen their list, there isnt much competition there whatsoever. All I see is a relatively slow (Sloane isnt quick either), old midfielder who can run all day, but doesnt have any other outstanding quality. He's an very average kick of the football. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the good category, he burns it way too often. He's a decent mark of the footy I guess, but that's really scraping the barrel.

Gibson is a slow, mediocre old midfielder who brings nothing to the table, other than an experienced depth option.

We shouldn't be tagging, and we shouldn't be playing Gibson in front of our talented kids. That's just like shooting yourself in both feet.

Also Gibson isnt playing half back. Pyke can't be THAT dumb.

 

[Sanders]

How good of a player Gibson is? Right.....

Since when did Gibson become such a superstar? One of North's top players? Have you seen their list, there isnt much competition there whatsoever. All I see is a relatively slow (Sloane isnt quick either), old midfielder who can run all day, but doesnt have any other outstanding quality. He's an very average kick of the football. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the good category, he burns it way too often. He's a decent mark of the footy I guess, but that's really scraping the barrel.

Gibson is a slow, mediocre old midfielder who brings nothing to the table, other than an experienced depth option.

We shouldn't be tagging, and we shouldn't be playing Gibson in front of our talented kids. That's just like shooting yourself in both feet.

Also Gibson isnt playing half back. Pyke can't be THAT dumb.

Oh... you’re one of those types

Ignore it is

 

[azza77]

Oh... you’re one of those types

Ignore it is

I've just never rated Gibson all that highly and neither has the most of the competition, it's as simple as that. He's been super consistent and that's about it.

At 31 years of age I really don't expect him to be coming here and changing his ways now.

He's nowhere my 22 and I don't see any reason why he should be, unless we cop injuries.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

We can all remember what we want to hear after the event, particularly if our argument requires additional invention to support it

The club did not say all those things at all. It was commented on at the the time, and the contemporaneous accounts (which I recall well) did not include the extra mayo

Nor did the actual comments from Ben Hart

I know what I heard but until I produce the quotes or he lines up on a half back flank at season proper it's a watch this space

My impression of the situation is that he's not a good enough kick to play at half back but my impression isn't the argument

 

[Sanders]

I know what I heard but until I produce the quotes or he lines up on a half back flank at season proper it's a watch this space

My impression of the situation is that he's not a good enough kick to play at half back but my impression isn't the argument

Brodie Smith is a shit kick over short to medium distance. Jason Johannisen is shit over long and short.

You need guys who can find it, run and keep running, chewing up meters

The disposal aspects are overstated in this role

 

[Jeffcrowe]

How good of a player Gibson is? Right.....

Since when did Gibson become such a superstar? One of North's top players? Have you seen their list, there isnt much competition there whatsoever. All I see is a relatively slow (Sloane isnt quick either), old midfielder who can run all day, but doesnt have any other outstanding quality. He's an very average kick of the football. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the good category, he burns it way too often. He's a decent mark of the footy I guess, but that's really scraping the barrel.

Gibson is a slow, mediocre old midfielder who brings nothing to the table, other than an experienced depth option.

We shouldn't be tagging, and we shouldn't be playing Gibson in front of our talented kids. That's just like shooting yourself in both feet.

Also Gibson isnt playing half back. Pyke can't be THAT dumb.

He brings professionalism experience endurance and tagging ability but I'm with you - he's not playing half back

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

He brings professionalism experience endurance and tagging ability but I'm with you - he's not playing half back

I fear he's been picked up purely so that we don't have to resort to playing our recent draftees

 

[Stiffy_18]

I've just never rated Gibson all that highly and neither has the most of the competition, it's as simple as that. He's been super consistent and that's about it.

At 31 years of age I really don't expect him to be coming here and changing his ways now.

He's nowhere my 22 and I don't see any reason why he should be, unless we cop injuries.

Just because he is not in your best 22, it doesn't mean that the club feels the same way.

There is absolutely NO other reason why the club would be recruiting a 31 year old midfielder who is not a star but is ultra consistent role player unless they obviously felt he is capable of performing the role NOW. Not provide depth, not to prop up the SANFL team but help the AFL side right away.

You might not like the move but it doesn't make it any less relevant because YOU think he is not good enough. There have been more than a few 200 game players at our club for whom this board thought they were shit.

Gibson was brought in for a specific role. IMHO, he has been brought in specifically as a tagger and someone who provides immediate depth to the midfield brigade. This frees up Riley Knight to play mostly as a forward to offset the loss of Cameron in terms of defensive pressure inside 50. We rely heavily on defensive pressure inside 50 and repeat entries that it creates. This season gone, we are the highest ranked team in terms of scoring from turnovers. Its the staple of our game plan.

 

[azza77]

Just because he is not in your best 22, it doesn't mean that the club feels the same way.

There is absolutely NO other reason why the club would be recruiting a 31 year old midfielder who is not a star but is ultra consistent role player unless they obviously felt he is capable of performing the role NOW. Not provide depth, not to prop up the SANFL team but help the AFL side right away.

You might not like the move but it doesn't make it any less relevant because YOU think he is not good enough. There have been more than a few 200 game players at our club for whom this board thought they were shit.

Gibson was brought in for a specific role. IMHO, he has been brought in specifically as a tagger and someone who provides immediate depth to the midfield brigade. This frees up Riley Knight to play mostly as a forward to offset the loss of Cameron in terms of defensive pressure inside 50. We rely heavily on defensive pressure inside 50 and repeat entries that it creates. This season gone, we are the highest ranked team in terms of scoring from turnovers. Its the staple of our game plan.

Sorry, I didn’t mean it in the sense that I don’t see him in our 22 so everyone else is stupid and wrong.

It’s more so I just don’t see a role for him at all. We’ve lost a lot of pace from our 2017 side, and a good kick in Smith.

Gibson gives us nothing we need. We already got a talented and super consistent midfielder in Gibbs. Please tell me why Gibson is so highly rated all of a sudden? He looked decent at North in a seriously average side, but he’s just not THAT good. Like I said when we recruited him, I thought it was purely a depth move more so than anything.

I just don’t see why we need someone who is consistently okay, when we can just play our talented juniors who are more than up to it, and could give us what Gibson does + some.

You don’t think there’s a possibility that the club picked him up as a seasoned and experienced senior body to add to our depth ranks, rather than relying on a 10 games. Just because he’s 31 means he’s guaranteed a spot in our 22?

 

[azza77]

He brings professionalism experience endurance and tagging ability but I'm with you - he's not playing half back

Do we really need a tagging player? Like honestly? We are such an attacking side, again I just don’t like the idea and how it suits us.

Our youngsters have so much more to offer in so many more areas, and yet we are going to plonk this 31 year old on the field.

I’ll happily concede that I was wrong if this all works out, I just really don’t like the idea to begin with.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I fear he's been picked up purely so that we don't have to resort to playing our recent draftees

Not sure re that . All things going well I think he will mainly play sanfl

He will pressure our young guys to get better and play if they don't reach a level

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Do we really need a tagging player? Like honestly? We are such an attacking side, again I just don’t like the idea and how it suits us.

Our youngsters have so much more to offer in so many more areas, and yet we are going to plonk this 31 year old on the field.

I’ll happily concede that I was wrong if this all works out, I just really don’t like the idea to begin with.

All things going v well with development I think he plays sanfl

But no doubt there will be injuries and inconsistent form from some and he will get his chances and be an honest player

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Just because he is not in your best 22, it doesn't mean that the club feels the same way.

There is absolutely NO other reason why the club would be recruiting a 31 year old midfielder who is not a star but is ultra consistent role player unless they obviously felt he is capable of performing the role NOW. Not provide depth, not to prop up the SANFL team but help the AFL side right away.

You might not like the move but it doesn't make it any less relevant because YOU think he is not good enough. There have been more than a few 200 game players at our club for whom this board thought they were shit.

Gibson was brought in for a specific role. IMHO, he has been brought in specifically as a tagger and someone who provides immediate depth to the midfield brigade. This frees up Riley Knight to play mostly as a forward to offset the loss of Cameron in terms of defensive pressure inside 50. We rely heavily on defensive pressure inside 50 and repeat entries that it creates. This season gone, we are the highest ranked team in terms of scoring from turnovers. Its the staple of our game plan.

Yep . I think if he plays it will be in midfield when he does

 

[Bicks]

Guns on show....

 

[flashcrow]

Maybe the club will use him to train the players how to beat a tag?

 

[Golumless]

Do we really need a tagging player? Like honestly? We are such an attacking side, again I just don’t like the idea and how it suits us.

Our youngsters have so much more to offer in so many more areas, and yet we are going to plonk this 31 year old on the field.

I’ll happily concede that I was wrong if this all works out, I just really don’t like the idea to begin with.

Arguably the most underrated position on the football field is tagger. Especially in an attacking side, as it acts to either help offensively by shutting down a talismen or helps to mitigate when the offense is failing.